Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Does anyone ever wonder why, after all these years, and the dawn of the internet and these forums about the Springfield Three, that JK, or MH, or SA, haven't come on any of these forums and defended their innocence. I think if I were innocent of a crime, and people were constantly postulating about my guilt or innocence, that I would go on the forums and defend myself vigorously.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

I still have 8/9am she started to call Suzie.

Just quoting what she said on disappeared. Nonetheless IMO its not odd for a teenager to be up and ready/excited to get going, esp. with a house full of guests, not much sleeping-in going on, most likely.

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See that's the problem with this issue. The story has morphed and changed over the years from the 7:30am to 8am, to 9am or so. That's the issue I was referring to when I said that, if this had happened to me, I don't care if it was 30-yrs later, my story would remain consistent in regards to the timeline. So is this just bad reporting by the papers, or is this JK getting her story screwed up.

 

[cherrymeg]

Does anyone ever wonder why, after all these years, and the dawn of the internet and these forums about the Springfield Three, that JK, or MH, or SA, haven't come on any of these forums and defended their innocence. I think if I were innocent of a crime, and people were constantly postulating about my guilt or innocence, that I would go on the forums and defend myself vigorously.

I would think if you were innocent buy held back details you would go to the police or FBI. Posting a statement about how didn't kill or kidnap anyone in 1992 when you aren't really being asked by anyone in authority, doesn't scream innocent. It could make you the target for internet trolls.

 

[Missouri Mule]

That's possible especially if she slept on a floor or at all. She was calling a house owned by Sherrill, and then she entered it while claiming to not be close to Suzie. Why didn't she call Stacy's house? Things that looks suspicious could look that way because she was covering for a friend or lying a about something really dumb, like drinking. I would hope she would clear that stuff up now.

That is a question that has always troubled me. Was she afraid of telling Mrs. McCall of the change of plans. I find that troubling.

Why was Stacy on migraine meds? Why was she on such a short leash?

These are some of the questions that I think ought to be cleared up.

Why indeed did Janelle not call Mrs. McCall immediately?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

I would think if you were innocent buy held back details you would go to the police or FBI. Posting a statement about how didn't kill or kidnap anyone in 1992 when you aren't really being asked by anyone in authority, doesn't scream innocent. It could make you the target for internet trolls.

True, you have a point. I just have a hard time thinking that these people aren't bothered by these forums, to the point of saying something to profess their innocence. Or, may be clear up some of the mistaken information. But may be you're right?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

That is a question that has always troubled me. Was she afraid of telling Mrs. McCall of the change of plans. I find that troubling.

Why was Stacy on migraine meds? Why was she on such a short leash?

These are some of the questions that I think ought to be cleared up.

Why indeed did Janelle not call Mrs. McCall immediately?

Good questions MM!!! I too have wondered about whether Mrs. McCall was just an overprotective parent, or if Stacy was more of a wild child than has been portrayed. I don't want to give her any bad name here for the record. It's just something I've pondered as well. And yes, why didn't Janelle try to call someone, anyone to see where the girls may be. Or did she and we just don't know. I just can't imagine that she and her boyfriend went to only SA's house after they realized the girls were no where to be found. In her stories she never mentions speaking to or seeing anyone other than SA that day. But yet, by the time police were called, some 18 or so people had traipsed through the house. Confusing.

 

[asyousay]

Has it been explained who let these people into the house that day?

I get later on Janis letting herself in later on even though it was still a complete invasion of privacy but her daughter was missing so...

But why would anybody else let themselves in, what would even make them check the front door to see if it was unlocked as you would naturally assume it was locked I would of thought.

 

[chestnut&bypass]

I too have wondered about whether Mrs. McCall was just an overprotective parent, or if Stacy was more of a wild child than has been portrayed. I don't want to give her any bad name here for the record.

The frequent visitors to this case are probably familiar with how I try to imagine "what would I have done" or how I try to compare "my friends and highschool experience" to what we know about the girls.

That said, of my three best friends from eighth grade on, the only one of us to turn into a pothead was the one who's mother thought the rest of us were a bad influence. This is in no way shape or form my opinion of Stacy and Mrs. McCall, but for the sake of the above discussion, this was my first-hand, real-world experience. Me and two of the guys pretty much had free run of our 16-18 year old days, with reasonable curfews and reasonable expectations of behaving ourselves....and we didn't really cross any lines. The third friend of mine wasn't allowed to be out much and his mom tried to keep her thumb on him, and he got into lots more trouble than the rest of us combined.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Has it been explained who let these people into the house that day?

I get later on Janis letting herself in later on even though it was still a complete invasion of privacy but her daughter was missing so...

But why would anybody else let themselves in, what would even make them check the front door to see if it was unlocked as you would naturally assume it was locked I would of thought.

So far as I am aware the house was only locked after the police made their original report. I believe that it was likely unlocked the entire day. Had anyone locked the door it is logical to believe had the women would have been locked out since their keys were in their purses.

The reasoning that I understood from Janelle is that she speculated that the women were out walking the neighborhood and had possibly stopped in at a sandwich shop.

It is not unreasonable to draw that conclusion if Janelle is being entirely forthcoming.

It is hard for me believe that police did not ask her these basic questions. I happen to have no opinion as the sloppy reporting left so many question unanswered. That is not the fault of anyone who went into the house not knowing that a crime had been committed.

 

[asyousay]

So far as I am aware the house was only locked after the police made their original report. I believe that it was likely unlocked the entire day. Had anyone locked the door it is logical to believe had the women would have been locked out since their keys were in their purses.

The reasoning that I understood from Janelle is that she speculated that the women were out walking the neighborhood and had possibly stopped in at a sandwich shop.

It is not unreasonable to draw that conclusion if Janelle is being entirely forthcoming.

It is hard for me believe that police did not ask her these basic questions. I happen to have no opinion as the sloppy reporting left so many question unanswered. That is not the fault of anyone who went into the house not knowing that a crime had been committed.

Yes but a unlocked door still doesn’t mean people would try and open the door if nobody answered the door. That’s not how society works. You don’t let yourself into somebody’s else’s home.

Well Janelle I think is a liar as she knew what Stacey was wearing the night before and it was clearly out in the open in Suzie’s room. Unless she is blind and it’s also the first thing Mrs McCall took note of as well. Her daughter didn’t have any clothing on as it was in Suzie’s room.

Why could Mrs McCall make that reasonable assumption but Janelle couldn’t?

Let’s not forget Janelle spent the evening with Stacey so she knew exactly what Stacey was wearing at 2am that morning. She also knew Suzie and Stacey were not the same size and wouldn’t be able to share clothes.


It’s stuff like that makes me not trust Janelle as far as I could throw her. Something doesn’t add up IMO

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yes but a unlocked door still doesn’t mean people would try and open the door if nobody answered the door. That’s not how society works. You don’t let yourself into somebody’s else’s home.

Well Janelle I think is a liar as she knew what Stacey was wearing the night before and it was clearly out in the open in Suzie’s room. Unless she is blind and it’s also the first thing Mrs McCall took note of as well. Her daughter didn’t have any clothing on as it was in Suzie’s room.

Why could Mrs McCall make that reasonable assumption but Janelle couldn’t?

Let’s not forget Janelle spent the evening with Stacey so she knew exactly what Stacey was wearing at 2am that morning. She also knew Suzie and Stacey were not the same size and wouldn’t be able to share clothes.


It’s stuff like that makes me not trust Janelle as far as I could throw her. Something doesn’t add up IMO

This is why I enjoy discussing this case with other people, as many times as you look at the case, and thing you know everything about it, someone always seems to mention something that you hadn't noticed. I never caught that issue. JK was in the house, surly saw Stacy's clothes folded on the floor, but didn't question what she was currently wearing when she says she and MH went looking for them. It is possible that she just thought she had put on a different set of clothes, but either way, for all of their stuff to be there, and the door to be unlocked with them not being there, just seems way too off for anyone with any common sense to not think something is wrong enough to call the parents or police. Especially when JK and MH say in the news reports that they checked several times through out the day to see if the girls had returned, and found them to still be missing, but still didn't feel anything was wrong enough to contact a parent or anyone that we've heard of. And did they really have solid plans to meet up with a group and go to White Water? Is that were the 18-people came from? So why didn't they go ahead and go to White Water with this group of people that were going, instead of going to the water slide instead. Makes no sense at all.

 

[cherrymeg]

This is why I enjoy discussing this case with other people, as many times as you look at the case, and thing you know everything about it, someone always seems to mention something that you hadn't noticed. I never caught that issue. JK was in the house, surly saw Stacy's clothes folded on the floor, but didn't question what she was currently wearing when she says she and MH went looking for them. It is possible that she just thought she had put on a different set of clothes, but either way, for all of their stuff to be there, and the door to be unlocked with them not being there, just seems way too off for anyone with any common sense to not think something is wrong enough to call the parents or police. Especially when JK and MH say in the news reports that they checked several times through out the day to see if the girls had returned, and found them to still be missing, but still didn't feel anything was wrong enough to contact a parent or anyone that we've heard of. And did they really have solid plans to meet up with a group and go to White Water? Is that were the 18-people came from? So why didn't they go ahead and go to White Water with this group of people that were going, instead of going to the water slide instead. Makes no sense at all.

I thought it sounded like Janis met another parent in the Streeter/Levitt home at one point that might be incorrect. Did all the people enter and walk through the house or did some people step inside noticing the door was unlocked. Hopefully the police figured out who had reasons to actually go inside. If Sherrill did hair out of her house or people had graduation presents to dropped of for Suzie the might have entered or touched the door. Janis could understandably wait inside. Really good friends could be there out of concern, hopefully they would have called the police idk.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

I thought this might help clear some questions up. This is a link to the Proboards Springfield Three Web Site that will link you to the Original Police Report taken by police after Janice McCall called them that night.

Police Report 6-92 | Forum

 

[asyousay]

I thought this might help clear some questions up. This is a link to the Proboards Springfield Three Web Site that will link you to the Original Police Report taken by police after Janice McCall called them that night.

Police Report 6-92 | Forum

This is perfect thank you so much.

So the purses were in Suzie’s room in this report which means Janelle would of definitely of Stacey’s clothing that morning.


Funny how also no mention of that phone call either. Now if the phone call was as disturbing and disgusting as Janelle claimed why wouldn’t that be in the initial report?

With everything going on that day that phone call would certainly stand out in anybody’s mind when it was so disgusting!

 

[asyousay]

I thought this might help clear some questions up. This is a link to the Proboards Springfield Three Web Site that will link you to the Original Police Report taken by police after Janice McCall called them that night.

Police Report 6-92 | Forum

This is perfect thank you so much.

So the purses were in Suzie’s room in this report which means Janelle would of definitely of Stacey’s clothing that morning.


Funny how also no mention of that phone call either. Now if the phone call was as disturbing and disgusting as Janelle claimed why wouldn’t that be in the initial report?

With everything going on that day that phone call would certainly stand out in anybody’s mind when it was so disgusting!

 

[k-mac]

BBM...I am in total agreement with you. I, too have read his posts.

would you mind pointing the rest of us in the direction then??

its very frustrating ( and ted mac im not being specific to you) but all the leave Janelle out of this brigade want to talk in boogie man....puff in the night......zero proof of ACTUAL human person.


including this inuendo now being posted about yes yes the suspect has posted on here.
well who???
and please explain their connection to the case.

otherwise please lets keep on with the facts and the information we actually have.

who seen them last....who contaminated the crimescene….and THAT like it or not is Janelle and mike and their sloppy changing alibis.

jmo

 

[k-mac]

That's possible especially if she slept on a floor or at all. She was calling a house owned by Sherrill, and then she entered it while claiming to not be close to Suzie. Why didn't she call Stacy's house? Things that looks suspicious could look that way because she was covering for a friend or lying a about something really dumb, like drinking. I would hope she would clear that stuff up now.

exactly why wouldn't Janelle call stacys house straight up looking for them?
that would have been my first point of interest.
if they aren't at one house try the other.

Does anyone ever wonder why, after all these years, and the dawn of the internet and these forums about the Springfield Three, that JK, or MH, or SA, haven't come on any of these forums and defended their innocence. I think if I were innocent of a crime, and people were constantly postulating about my guilt or innocence, that I would go on the forums and defend myself vigorously.

i think they do from time to time.
imo we had one recently. (sorry not like me to be ambiguous!)

The frequent visitors to this case are probably familiar with how I try to imagine "what would I have done" or how I try to compare "my friends and highschool experience" to what we know about the girls.

That said, of my three best friends from eighth grade on, the only one of us to turn into a pothead was the one who's mother thought the rest of us were a bad influence. This is in no way shape or form my opinion of Stacy and Mrs. McCall, but for the sake of the above discussion, this was my first-hand, real-world experience. Me and two of the guys pretty much had free run of our 16-18 year old days, with reasonable curfews and reasonable expectations of behaving ourselves....and we didn't really cross any lines. The third friend of mine wasn't allowed to be out much and his mom tried to keep her thumb on him, and he got into lots more trouble than the rest of us combined.

haha yes so true!

 

[Tuffgong]

What if Sherrill was the target? Crime in progress with use of a gun when two girls unexpectedly came home. Sherrill silenced via gun. Girls get ready for bed, lay down all the while perp has Sherrill silenced. When the time is right, perp gets all three outside into his car and they are gone. A gun can be a powerful tool and avoid signs of a struggle. The two younger girls were unfortunate additional victims in this scenario. One perp, three victims. MOO

Why remove the girls? Makes no sense. He could easily remove Sherrill by himself, getting two more people to control complicates things big time.

 

[Tuffgong]

Now I think this is an excellent post. This is a theory I have also entertained. It seems like one of the top theories to me. May be the girls came home in the middle of Sherrill being assaulted, in one form or another, physical or sexual, and then went down just as you laid out. You're also right, a gun will make most people cooperate with just about anything you tell them to. When you're staring death in the face, you'll cooperate I would think.

The girls were dressed for bed, took off makeup and jewelry. They did not stumble in on anything.

 

[Tuffgong]

would you mind pointing the rest of us in the direction then??

its very frustrating ( and ted mac im not being specific to you) but all the leave Janelle out of this brigade want to talk in boogie man....puff in the night......zero proof of ACTUAL human person.


including this inuendo now being posted about yes yes the suspect has posted on here.
well who???
and please explain their connection to the case.

otherwise please lets keep on with the facts and the information we actually have.

who seen them last....who contaminated the crimescene….and THAT like it or not is Janelle and mike and their sloppy changing alibis.

jmo

I am a motive guy. Motive comes first for me. What is the motive?