Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

[Missouri Mule]

This may have been covered but I can’t find any information on the father of Suzie/ex of Sherrill. I’m assuming this is one of the people LE ruled out in the beginning, ya?

They found him in Washington state. Neither of her ex husbands were involved.

 

[asyousay]

The perps/perp didn’t need to be a genius to get away with this crime. All you needed was a friend like ‘Janelle’ and you were golden.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Does being "clean as a hound's tooth" exonerate him? In your previous post you said this (EBM):



Anyone who had contact with Suzie, Stacy, or Sherrill in the days leading up to their disappearance needs to be cleared.
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I still think the simplest explanation is that one of the grave robbers abducted them, tied them up, and put them inside coffins in old above-ground crypts.
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I started wondering how long the women could have survived inside coffins. The answer is about five-and-a-half hours, according to the following article:
How Long Could You Survive In A Coffin If You Were Buried Alive?
That time might have to be reduced slightly considering that some space in each coffin would have been occupied by whatever corpse was already in there, leaving slightly less oxygen than what was estimated in the article.

I've read where others have had the same theory, that the three were buried in above ground crypts. And that might make sense as a form of pay back for talking to police about the grave robbing crime. The problem I have always had with that is, that would be a logical nightmare, trying to get into and out of a Cemetery with three bodies. Not to mention the fact that Cemeteries are closed from Dusk to Dawn, and anyone in them during those hours would be subject to immediate police scrutiny if they were seen in there during this time period. JMO.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

The perps/perp didn’t need to be a genius to get away with this crime. All you needed was a friend like ‘Janelle’ and you were golden.

Spot On!

 

[Tuffgong]

And Janelle's motive was............

 

[asyousay]

And Janelle's motive was............

Does she need a motive other than being scared witless that her 2 “friends” along with one of the girls mum have been kidnapped and likely killed.

We have now seen the first report from the cops and it’s rather startling that Janelle didn’t mention the alarming and distressing phone call that she got that morning at the house.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

And Janelle's motive was............

May be there is something deeper to this that involves the two of them, that we're just not aware of. I take the totality of what the two of them did, and said that day, and the future morphing stories and time lines, into account. None of it makes any sense. None of it. Why did JK state in the original police report taken the night they discovered them missing, that she started calling at 7:30am, and then change that time to 8:30am-9:00am, many years later. And why if they were so eager to go to white water, did they go to the house at 12:30pm, and then according to the original police report, not return to the house until 7:30pm. She says she called several times between 12:30pm and 7:30pm, why did they not drive back by the house. They didn't seem overly concerned with hooking up with the girls that day, nor did they seem overly concerned with the things they saw at the house at 12:30pm, including the nasty phone call she supposedly received when at the house. I don't care what anyone says, when you look at the totality of what these two did and their stories, it just doesn't appear to be normal behavior. JMO.

 

[asyousay]

May be there is something deeper to this that involves the two of them, that we're just not aware of. I take the totality of what the two of them did, and said that day, and the future morphing stories and time lines, into account. None of it makes any sense. None of it. Why did JK state in the original police report taken the night they discovered them missing, that she started calling at 7:30am, and then change that time to 8:30am-9:00am, many years later. And why if they were so eager to go to white water, did they go to the house at 12:30pm, and then according to the original police report, not return to the house until 7:30pm. She says she called several times between 12:30pm and 7:30pm, why did they not drive back by the house. They didn't seem overly concerned with hooking up with the girls that day, nor did they seem overly concerned with the things they saw at the house at 12:30pm, including the nasty phone call she supposedly received when at the house. I don't care what anyone says, when you look at the totality of what these two did and their stories, it just doesn't appear to be normal behavior. JMO.

Let’s call a spade a spade here..

Her story has more holes than a colander

 

[Missouri Mule]

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And Janelle's motive was............

There was none.

She may know more than she has revealed but to have her best friend murdered — no.

 

[pontefract]

Just because LE ostensibly "rules out" anyone, I am not counting on the wisdom of departments who cannot solve the case in the first place. I know it against TOS here to sleuth & discuss those who have been green-lighted as not guilty (who all are they, anyway, anyone keep a list?), but I myself will continue to count all among the many possibles.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

There


There was none.

She may know more than she has revealed but to have her best friend murdered — no.

I would agree with part of what MM says here. I personally believe there was a motive. But don't think she had her best friend murdered. It seems very unlikely. But I do agree that it seems, based on their behavior that next day, that they may know more about what happened to the girls and Sherrill, than she is admitting to. Did JK and MH get caught up in something? Did MH get JK caught up in something to the point that JK would feel she would also be charged if anything came to light? It also makes me wonder why they went to the lengths that they did that day to clean the glass up, going into the house, erasing the message on the answering machine, the changing timelines, MH and police not being able to confirm his alibi and his timeline not matching JK's. And why if they were so eager to get going to white water, that she states in the original police report that she started calling at 7:30am, but then didn't actually go over to the house until 12:30pm, and then not return to the house until 7:30pm that night. It just doesn't seem like there was a solid plan to go to white water. At least not JK and MH. Their actions that day just don't make sense. I am fairly convinced at this point, that there is more to that whole set of actions they took, than is being revealed. Question is, what?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Let’s call a spade a spade here..

Her story has more holes than a colander

That's a good one. I've never heard that analogy before. But I agree. It's full of holes, and things that just don't seem normal, or make sense. Police interviewed her more than once. There had to be a reason they did this. May police interviewed her more than once in an effort to corroborate she and MH's stories and timelines that weren't matching up as police stated.

 

[Tuffgong]

Are there any good podcasts about this case? Heard True Crime Garage's and Generation Why's and was not impressed by either. Gen Why's was decent I guess.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Are there any good podcasts about this case? Heard True Crime Garage's and Generation Why's and was not impressed by either. Gen Why's was decent I guess.

Perhaps the best I have ever seen was “Vanished.’ It was a short film but quite revealing.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Just because LE ostensibly "rules out" anyone, I am not counting on the wisdom of departments who cannot solve the case in the first place. I know it against TOS here to sleuth & discuss those who have been green-lighted as not guilty (who all are they, anyway, anyone keep a list?), but I myself will continue to count all among the many possibles.

I concur. And all the cops on duty at that time as well although I don’t believe were involved.

The individual I am concentrating on was not to my knowledge ever seen as a suspect until much later. I see nothing to eliminate him and about half a dozen people working behind the scenes cannot rule him out either.

That is not to say we are in agreement in all things. We don’t.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I'm not ascertaining anything missouri mule, just pointing out the accusations you've made against this individual in the past. These posts from you are on both topix, and websleuths.

Interesting...I was accused of being 'Monkey' (man I assume)......for believing all would have been well if the young women had stayed home (or gone to project grad) vs going to the parties that night, which IMO is not an illogical assumption.

 

[Tuffgong]

Interesting...I was accused of being 'Monkey' (man I assume)......for believing all would have been well if the young women had stayed home (or gone to project grad) vs going to the parties that night, which IMO is not an illogical assumption.

Victim blaming. High school kids party, that does not open themselves up to being murdered. Like saying JFK should have never left the White House and he would have not been assassinated.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

The person who used to post on here and on topix as monkeyman. I read many posts where you two got into it, and you acted like this person was involved in the crime. I was just reading your posts and ran across these nasty exchanges between the two of you.

And Monkeyman trips a LOT of triggers......not sure as to why though. Was he a suspect at one time? Makes one wonder.

 

[asyousay]

That's a good one. I've never heard that analogy before. But I agree. It's full of holes, and things that just don't seem normal, or make sense. Police interviewed her more than once. There had to be a reason they did this. May police interviewed her more than once in an effort to corroborate she and MH's stories and timelines that weren't matching up as police stated.

A young male friend of the girls has given various accounts of the
events he recalls between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. on June 7. He was one
of those who entered Levitt's house early in the day apparently
looking for the women. "We pretty well cleared all that up,"
Worsham said of the friend's accounts. "He was simply confused on
some times as to where he was." End quote. 8-3-92

It’s funny how Mike and Janelle couldn’t keep their stories straight.

Let’s be honest they didn’t exactly have a complicated day. Janelle woke up and made various phones call and went over to the home, cleaned up and then left. She then apprently came back and house still empty so off they go to the water park.

They obviously was having a ton of funny as the police office noted that Janelle was still wet and that was after 9pm I think.

So why did both of them seemingly have a rough time remembering the timing of things and what they did that day?

 

[MooseMeMuch]

How do you know they had knowledge of police tactics? It would be more likely that who ever did this just got lucky. It would be nice if you didn't wrongly try to accuse people of this crime, just because they may have butted heads with you over the years on their theory versus yours. You are referring to the person from Joplin that you have been accusing on Topix of this crime, aren't you. The one that use to use the screen name monkeyman aren't you. I have read many of the exchanges between you two, and I'm confident after reading many of that individuals posts, that you are respectfully wrong. It sounds like this person is just tired of you wrongly accusing them. In many of the exchanges I read between you two, this person more than explained to you where they were that night, but you aren't letting it go. And I will add that I have seen several exchanges in which you also accused others on forums that disagreed with you, of this crime. Whats that all about?

Just saw this.......ah ha! Makes sense now. Yes, a man from Joplin was falsely accused and (totally) cleared by SPD.
IMO the main 3 Persons of Interest, have zip to do with the disappearance of these women.
To include Monkeyman.