Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

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  • #61
I will unquestionably get push-back on this but I will say IMO there are three viable suspects. NONE of the “usual suspects” were involved. Not the kids, not the grave robbers (actually crypt vandals) and not the “Grand Jury Three.”

It has long been rumored that the police were skimming off the drug stops along the I44 corridor. Drugs were, I understand it, at least some of them, were stored in the property room and some cops could have been skimming and reselling for extra money as they were not well paid and allowed to work off duty jobs to supplement their police pay. That is a rumor and I got the clear impression from Garrison when he called me at home was that he was leaning in that direction. He also told me something else interesting. He didn’t know who the biker who threatened his attorney. Garrison is, I believe, a full “patched” Galloping Goose member. It was always my impression that it was a warning to Garrison to clam up. If Garrison is to be believed, that is not true. The meaning of the “message” is unclear but it seems evident that the defense attorney’s enthusiasm declined after that encounter.

Garrison was bailed out of the secure county jail and taken to a hotel for questioning. The bond was insignificant. Nothing came of that and Garrison told me that he was left alone and he simply walked out of an unlocked door and went on to rape that college student. In our brief conversation he owned up to that crime and with good behavior should be out in a relatively short time as his sentences run concurrently. I did not find him threatening and would invite him into my home to discuss the case if he wanted to meet. I just think he wants his freedom. He also said the other two of the GJ3 played no part in this crime and I believe him. It really doesn’t make a lot of sense. All three had a long rap sheet and they were easy targets for the prosecuting attorney as they were on the street at the time of the sbductions.

Having said all this, I personally believe the best suspects would be bad cops, Robert Cox, or my best take, someone who scoped out the girls at one of the graduating parties and simply followed them home.

We must be hitting closer to the truth hence your lengthy comment.
 
  • #62
Weak connections except for........a few classmates who were 'close friends'.
What have you done to eliminate people close to Sherrill? Not being argumentative, but have you done that? Isn't it extremely likely that she's a target?

Besides just who worked with her at the salon and close friends, do you know who visited and came in and out of the house?

We can deduce this was an orchestrated crime (not random) and both FBI and SPD say the perps took an interest in the victims. "Take an interest" for what purpose, is what you must ask.

Move outside the framework the media has created and you'll find some better answers.
 
  • #63
Here's one for Missouri Mule - has your suspect ever been seriously discussed or even named on this forum in the many threads before?
 
  • #64
What have you done to eliminate people close to Sherrill? Not being argumentative, but have you done that? Isn't it extremely likely that she's a larger?

Besides just who worked with her at the salon and close friends, do you know who visited and came in and out of the house?

We can deduce this was an orchestrated crime (not random) and both FBI and SPD say the perps took an interest in the victims. "Take an interest" for what purpose, is what you must ask.

Move outside the framework the media has created and you'll find some better answers.
Why do you think they were moved from one location to another ?
 
  • #65
Inconsistent statements don’t make someone guilty, but they do make someone look guilty. Who lies for the sake of lying? Reflecting on teenage events as an adult can be helpful-especially if it’s been a while since an issue was revisited.
Something that makes a “bad” cop “bad” is it’s easy to blame them for mysterious crimes. Hopefully LE interviewed or at least checked into the members and other staff of the gym where Stacy worked.
It’s too bad we don’t know more about Sherrill’s friends. It’d be interesting to know if she did hair at home, refinished furniture as a side job or ever entertained guests.
 
  • #66
What have you done to eliminate people close to Sherrill? Not being argumentative, but have you done that? Isn't it extremely likely that she's a target?

Asher had Sherrill's Roledex so I 'assume' LE checked out her clients. Wouldn't be a bad idea to touch base with her coworkers again. I'd vote for that.
Sherrill had a friend who boarded with her for a year 1/2....Janet Bussell Oliveras. Might be a good idea to track her down. Thank you for the idea :)
 
  • #67
Asher had Sherrill's Roledex so I 'assume' LE checked out her clients. Wouldn't be a bad idea to touch base with her coworkers again. I'd vote for that.
Sherrill had a friend who boarded with her for a year 1/2....Janet Bussell Oliveras. Might be a good idea to track her down. Thank you for the idea :)
Coworkers know a lot about each other since they’re around each other all of the time. If Sherrill was as safety conscious as people say I doubt she shared her living space with a stranger. Good idea!!
 
  • #68
Inconsistent statements don’t make someone guilty, but they do make someone look guilty. .... It’d be interesting to know if she (Sherrill) ever entertained guests.
  • I find it interesting that they'd only lived on Delmar for a short while (2 or 3 months). Janelle had never visited Suzie at the Delmar house of which (being a closer friend and still not dropping by Suzie's) but on that Sunday....there was suddenly people stopping by throughout the day. The Delmar house was the place they were all supposed to meet up to go to Branson White Water. Why had it suddenly become Grand Central Station, as in the 'hub'?
  • I don't claim to have the answers but I do have a lot of questions concerning the movements of those 'silly kids'.o_O
 
  • #69
If this was a targeted attack at Sherrill then why leave it to so early in the AM to ambush the house?

The girls did not get back until 3ish so logically this points to Suzie being the target IMO
 
  • #70
Why do you think they were moved from one location to another ?
That would take knowing the motive.

But I speculate that they wanted to take the women to a secure location to do whatever they wanted to do to/with them.
 
  • #71
Coworkers know a lot about each other since they’re around each other all of the time. If Sherrill was as safety conscious as people say I doubt she shared her living space with a stranger. Good idea!!
A simple search of Sherrill's name on Newspapers.com (cheap to get a month access), sort by date, and you have several salon ads in the paper with her and her coworkers' names.

JBO, Mary. M. are others in the public that were friends with her.

The fact remains, this being a planned attack, the perps had knowledge of 1717 Delmar. The women were there two months. That's a narrow window, so finding the visitors of that house shouldn't be hard. I suspect these person(s) developed an interest in both Sherrill and Suzie.
 
  • #72
Why do you think they were moved from one location to another ?
Maybe timing had something to do with it. This happened not long before sunrise when it seems it’d be harder to creep around with 3 unwilling women.
 
  • #73
Asher had Sherrill's Roledex so I 'assume' LE checked out her clients. Wouldn't be a bad idea to touch base with her coworkers again. I'd vote for that.
Sherrill had a friend who boarded with her for a year 1/2....Janet Bussell Oliveras. Might be a good idea to track her down. Thank you for the idea :)

As a FYI I have a complete list of her clients. Of those folks, mostly women nothing stood out. I knew one rather well and asked if she was ever interviewed. My recollection is she said she had not.

Two of my co-workers also went to her and one just three days prior to their going missing. They were not interviewed but they were not on the Rolodex listing.

I went back to one several times and the only thing they discussed was their respective daughter’s upcoming graduations.

Personally, I don’t think any of these clients had any connection. I can’t account why the lady who was on the rolodex list was not interviewed. I have always wondered why.
 
  • #74
Here's one for Missouri Mule - has your suspect ever been seriously discussed or even named on this forum in the many threads before?

He has never been named.
 
  • #75
Something that makes a “bad” cop “bad” is it’s easy to blame them for mysterious crimes.
It's also too easy to ignore. Think about all the red herrings in this case.
 
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  • #76
It's also too easy to ignore. Think about all the red herrings in this case.
That too, and the last thing most people want to do is upset a potentially bad cop with questions or suspicion.
 
  • #77
That too, and the last thing most people want to do is upset a potentially bad cop with questions or suspicion.
After Golden State Killer, I am not sure why anyone would give police a free pass.
 
  • #78
Why would LE want 3 woman dead?

Also how can we sleuth somebody who has never been named in the case?
 
  • #79
We must be hitting closer to the truth hence your lengthy comment.

Not really IMO. I think the cops were just thrashing about using what they thought were logical places to look.

I believed the police were poorly served by upper management. Still do. Recently read that the Missouri State Highway Patrol (a highly respected police force) offered to lend help and several computers but were turned down. Instead the police worked off 3x5 cards and “tips” that had information called in. Many were bogus and a waste of time. I was personally told by one of the troopers their help was declined.

What intrigues me the most is how the original profile seems to indicate multiple suspects. The latest, to my knowledge, only refers to the “kidnapper.”

My recollection is that this case was presented to a national task force over 2-3 days and every detail was scrutinized. Nothing came of it.

At this time several women came up missing or dead. At least one was attributed to Gerald Carnahan who is serving life for the murder of Jackie John’s brutal slaying. Several others were believed to be of his doing.

I worked with his wife for several years and he would come into the office many times to check on his alibi witness, her daughter, who came in frequently. She was quite pleasant but it was fairly obvious she was his “trophy” wife. He was wealthy and she could buy whatever she wished.

Do I think he murdered these women? No.

I think it was a single male predator who hung around those graduation parties and followed them home. If Sherrill was the target, there were at least 3,5 hours before the girls arrived to grab her.
 
  • #80
After Golden State Killer, I am not sure why anyone would give police a free pass.
I have no reason to think cops are involved. I’m just referring to bad cops in general.
 
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