Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

[SAMS]

The funniest (most pathetic) thing about this to me is the Cox Medical buried-in-cement crapola. Why not try Lake Springfield, Fellows Lake, or Valley Water Mill Pond? All wet, all deep, all in or near the city.

Yes! Have these bodies of water ever been checked? Do we know?

 

[k-mac]

Yes prank calls sexual in nature ran rapid back in those days. Ether by perverted old men or teenagers. It was quite common to just hang up, and think nothing of it.

Since Stacy's car was at Suzie's house, there would be no reason to think that she would be at home. All this seeming somewhat strange just wasn't enough to sound the town bell. So I can see why the Kirby's just took off and went to the water park. Like I said before, its not like you would have seen the situation and said: "OH MY GOD! AN ABDUCTION HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THIS HOUSE!"

I think friends/family started taking things more seriously later in the day when the three women still had not returned to the Delmar home.

they thought it serious emough to spend 6 hours looking for them and then didn't raise an alarm.
after contaminating a crimescene

 

[Missouri Mule]

Being familiar with Springfield back in the day, I would say this was a crime let out to the outlaw community, successfully performed, then done and long forgotten. These types don't chit-chat and they don't make deathbed confessions. The only way this card pops back up is in a cut deck held by law enforcement promising to reduce prison time. And those types have long since gone to jail already if they were going, done their time, got out and then either died, or washed their hands of past lives. The only other component is that other gang in town, the Law. They know, and what they know somehow reflects badly on them.

You very well could be right but the overarching question for me is What was the motive?

 

[Ibiz]

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[Ibiz]

Answering a phone in someone else's house is odd. Even if she thought her friends could be calling or other people making plans, you would let the machine get it before just picking it up. People could have been calling for Sherrill she might have wanted to hear them if she had returned. Janelle should have no reason then to believe she wouldn't.
Prank calls were common. I thought I heard that someone had been doing this to many people in that town. If it's true that they found the person, the lewd calls might not have been personal. I think everyone has participated in prank calling, back in the day before cell phones it cost money to dial other area codes (if you even needed to). That puts some limitation on who you could prank call. So it's possible Janelle received calls or thought it was kids drunk from the night before.

Cherrymeg? Things were different back then. I remember as a kid if walking through a mall parking lot and seeing that someone left their car lights on, we would just open their car door and shut them off. That would be unthinkable by today's standards. I know, but back then things were different.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Here is a suggestion I recommend. There is the Streeter Family Blog site that has a wealth of information on all of the suspects plus a rather complete history and first hand accounts.

Just Google “Streeter Family Blog.”

Bartt Streeter’s account is particularly compelling.

Well worth the read in my opinion.

 

[preacher63]

You very well could be right but the overarching question for me is What was the motive?

In this case somebody with a mouth on them might have learned certain things and been ready to spill? I don't think it would have been the other girl. That was just bad luck. Mrs. Levitt must have heard a lot at her job. People getting their hair did do talk. And that daughter of course lived dangerously. "Who knows?"

 

[cherrymeg]

Cherrymeg? Things were different back then. I remember as a kid if walking through a mall parking lot and seeing that someone left their car lights on, we would just open their car door and shut them off. That would be unthinkable by today's standards. I know, but back then things were different.

I was a teenager in the 90's. Turning off a car light is a nice thing to do but even back then people did lock their car doors. And people weren't always happy to find a stranger near their car.

 

[Ibiz]

I was a teenager in the 90's. Turning off a car light is a nice thing to do but even back then people did lock their car doors. And people weren't always happy to find a stranger near their car.

I was referring to the late 70s/early 80s. My point being that in 1992, if I was standing in Kirby's shoe, I would have done pretty much the same thing she and the BF did. I was about twenty in 92 so I think I can somewhat relate.

I guess we came from a different world Cherrymeg. How old were you in 1992?

 

[Betty P]

Yes! Have these bodies of water ever been checked? Do we know?

Yes, more than once. This and several other questions about this investigation keep popping up. Maybe it would help to put an FAK note in one of the subtopics here, so it's easier for people to get up to speed.

 

[Betty P]

In this case somebody with a mouth on them might have learned certain things and been ready to spill? I don't think it would have been the other girl. That was just bad luck. Mrs. Levitt must have heard a lot at her job. People getting their hair did do talk. And that daughter of course lived dangerously. "Who knows?"

Susie "lived dangerously"? No, I don't think so. That sounds like blaming the victim, JMO

 

[cherrymeg]

I was referring to the late 70s/early 80s. My point being that in 1992, if I was standing in Kirby's shoe, I would have done pretty much the same thing she and the BF did. I was about twenty in 92 so I think I can somewhat relate.

I guess we came from a different world Cherrymeg. How old were you in 1992?

I was 8. Some people are more open with their homes and it can depend on the parent. Most of my friends wouldn't have entered a home with no one inside and you definitely wouldn't just answer someone's home phone that is also their parents. I could see letting the answering machine pick up first to see who it is.

 

[asyousay]

I was 8. Some people are more open with their homes and it can depend on the parent. Most of my friends wouldn't have entered a home with no one inside and you definitely wouldn't just answer someone's home phone that is also their parents. I could see letting the answering machine pick up first to see who it is.

Yes we know the house had a Answer Phone so no need for Janelle to even touch the phone.

Also I’m sure she said she answered it to find out where the women were. But why would the women call their own home - was they meant to have some sense that Janelle was in their home?

 

[cherrymeg]

Yes we know the house had a Answer Phone so no need for Janelle to even touch the phone.

Also I’m sure she said she answered it to find out where the women were. But why would the women call their own home - was they meant to have some sense that Janelle was in their home?

I could see her answering the phone if she also used it to call other people if everyone was making plans. That's still doesn't seem to make sense along with everything else she did that morning.

 

[cherrymeg]

I think we need to get Cold Justice to look at this case. They just dealt with the 1996 murder of Joannie Goodwin
OK - OK - Joannie Goodwin, 18, Pawhuska, 22 Sept 1996
I think this case can be solved it just needs new eyes and maybe fresh interviews to see what was happening that night. Let's all contact the show and make them aware people care about this case and family members want answers.
Cold Justice

 

[cherrymeg]

Being familiar with Springfield back in the day, I would say this was a crime let out to the outlaw community, successfully performed, then done and long forgotten. These types don't chit-chat and they don't make deathbed confessions. The only way this card pops back up is in a cut deck held by law enforcement promising to reduce prison time. And those types have long since gone to jail already if they were going, done their time, got out and then either died, or washed their hands of past lives. The only other component is that other gang in town, the Law. They know, and what they know somehow reflects badly on them.

I know there were women that just went missing or later turned up in this marsh off the river who were most likely killed by members of the Warlocks. Your profile pic suggests you are familiar with motorcycle clubs. What were they like and did they have big presence in Springfield?

 

[asyousay]

I could see her answering the phone if she also used it to call other people if everyone was making plans. That's still doesn't seem to make sense along with everything else she did that morning.

Sorry I am not understanding you here.

Why would Janelle be contacting people on the first visit to the house as she apprently didnt know anything was amiss. So why would she be calling people on a Sherills home landline at that time?

 

[cherrymeg]

Sorry I am not understanding you here.

Why would Janelle be contacting people on the first visit to the house as she apprently didnt know anything was amiss. So why would she be calling people on a Sherills home landline at that time?

I'm just thinking if she was more familiar with Suzie and Sherrill than she implied. If she had been at the house before and didn't refer to Suzie as "that girl" it wouldn't seem as odd. I could see using the phone to call around and see who was going to the water park and had they seen Suzie and Stacy. Trying to coordinate plans before everyone had cell phones could be tricky. I remember trying to get in touch with friends using payphones, to call their house and if they weren't there you had to leave a message and figure out how to meet up. It doesn't add up.

 

[Talullah]

I was 16 in ‘92 and made and received prank calls. It was common and fun but the calls were never threatening or obscene. I would’ve answered someone’s phone if they asked; but it’s awkward since callers usually ask who they’re speaking to. I had friends whose parents let us drink and as laid back as they were I would’ve been uncomfortable in their homes in their absence. Checking their messages would’ve been an invasion of their privacy.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I was 16 in ‘92 and made and received prank calls. It was common and fun but the calls were never threatening or obscene. I would’ve answered someone’s phone if they asked; but it’s awkward since callers usually ask who they’re speaking to. I had friends whose parents let us drink and as laid back as they were I would’ve been uncomfortable in their homes in their absence. Checking their messages would’ve been an invasion of their privacy.

Yes, and I don’t understand why that angle wasn’t thoroughly pursued.

While I think that she and her then boyfriend were not the perps and why one would set out to kill their best friend it raises intriguing questions. Why would anyone go into someone else’s home and listen to anyone’s personal messages?

I wonder if she was ever questioned at the time of the grand jury. And if not, why not?