Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[cherrymeg]

I do not agree. Fear is fear is fear is fear. Cooperation with even the unlikely hope of things working out is much more reasonable. NO ONE thinks they are going to be murdered, especially by someone they think they know.

People respond differently to fear and that's what makes it so strange. The abductor would have to control three women. If they were all taken from the house keeping the crime scene that neat would be difficult. Sometimes the better you know someone the more you realize what they are capable of. You hope you won't be murdered but bad happens.

 

[Catmommy]

hey cat mommy
if your comment is referring to my post, im not dizzying a single perp possibility.
im talking about ozners post,not going for a PREDATOR who kidnaps 3 victims and didn't do it before or after.
leaves no trace. never to be heard of again.

single perpetrator is a different kettle of fish.

Nope, not referring to your post at all. Just putting forward my own theory. Anybody who thinks that they would NOT be persuaded by a gun pointed directly at them has NEVER had a gun pointed directly at them. I have.

 

[cherrymeg]

Nope, not referring to your post at all. Just putting forward my own theory. Anybody who thinks that they would NOT be persuaded by a gun pointed directly at them has NEVER had a gun pointed directly at them. I have.

I have and my instinct was to get mad. I've bet my life on people having bad aim or not actually being able to pull the trigger. I'm not saying that works in every case or everyone should antagonize and yell at a person with a gun but my experience was different than yours.

 

[Catmommy]

I have and my instinct was to get mad. I've bet my life on people having bad aim or not actually being able to pull the trigger. I'm not saying that works in every case or everyone should antagonize and yell at a person with a gun but my experience was different than yours.

That suggests to me that you knew the person who pointed a gun at you. I didn't. His nervousness made me think I might be shot by mistake. I'm glad that both of our experiences worked out for both of us.

 

[k-mac]

Nope, not referring to your post at all. Just putting forward my own theory. Anybody who thinks that they would NOT be persuaded by a gun pointed directly at them has NEVER had a gun pointed directly at them. I have.

I have and my instinct was to get mad. I've bet my life on people having bad aim or not actually being able to pull the trigger. I'm not saying that works in every case or everyone should antagonize and yell at a person with a gun but my experience was different than yours.

holy moly you too...this blew my mind.
yes so glad you both are here to tell your stories xx

me....I would myself.....scream ...and freeze....anything remotely frightening I freeze. argh!!!hate it. once the scream is out cant speak either. and I haven't remotely had scary stuff like a gun pointed at me.

think you truly know your worth in those moments wouldn't you
I can not imagine the cruelty of what it would feel like as you are being actually murdered. it is simply the most horrific thought a person can endure.

rip our strong springfield 3......have no doubt they went to bat for each other xx

 

[cherrymeg]

That suggests to me that you knew the person who pointed a gun at you. I didn't. His nervousness made me think I might be shot by mistake. I'm glad that both of our experiences worked out for both of us.

I didn't know him he was someone that was a friend of a friend.

 

[cherrymeg]

That suggests to me that you knew the person who pointed a gun at you. I didn't. His nervousness made me think I might be shot by mistake. I'm glad that both of our experiences worked out for both of us.

I'm glad you're okay. You went with your instinct that the person was jumpy and likely to act out of fear. Always trust your gut.

 

[asyousay]

I still don’t believe one person pulled this off. The bedrooms were not near each other and if this was a random sexual predator then he couldn’t of controlled them because of the layout. IMO

Also Stacey has no reason to go along with whoever did this as she had no loyalty to Sherill and Suzie, why would she?

From all accounts she had only recently reconnected with Suzie. So I can see Suzie would fear for her mum and vice versa but Stacey would literally want out. That fits in with rumours Stacey fought as well which I can believe.

 

[cherrymeg]

I still don’t believe one person pulled this off. The bedrooms were not near each other and if this was a random sexual predator then he couldn’t of controlled them because of the layout. IMO

Also Stacey has no reason to go along with whoever did this as she had no loyalty to Sherill and Suzie, why would she?

From all accounts she had only recently reconnected with Suzie. So I can see Suzie would fear for her mum and vice versa but Stacey would literally want out. That fits in with rumours Stacey fought as well which I can believe.

I don't know if Topix is credible but there was a mention of Suzie suddenly deciding to hangout with friends she'd known since childhood and kind of bailing on her other friends.

 

[Ozoner]

It's possible one person killed them. I'm not ruling anything out. It is easier to kidnap woman on vacation who aren't familiar with their surroundings then to abduct them from their home without a trace.

Even though his motive was financial, not sexual, Chase Merritt killed the McStay family--two adults and two children--with a sledgehammer. Only after finding the bodies three years after the family disappeared did LE conclude that the McStays were killed in their home. Who's to say that the three women in this case were all taken alive?

 

[cherrymeg]

Even though his motive was financial, not sexual, Chase Merritt killed the McStay family--two adults and two children--with a sledgehammer. Only after finding the bodies three years after the family disappeared did LE conclude that the McStays were killed in their home. Who's to say that the three women in this case were all taken alive?

Anything is possible. Did Merritt kill them in the house? That's an awful case too.

 

[asyousay]

Even though his motive was financial, not sexual, Chase Merritt killed the McStay family--two adults and two children--with a sledgehammer. Only after finding the bodies three years after the family disappeared did LE conclude that the McStays were killed in their home. Who's to say that the three women in this case were all taken alive?

I follow this case and it’s vastly different.

Toddlers are not a threat and can not fight back. 18/19 year olds are fully capable of putting up a fight.

 

[asyousay]

Anything is possible. Did Merritt kill them in the house? That's an awful case too.

Yes he “apparently” killed them all in the home but the two boys were toddlers and certainly didn’t put up a struggle.

 

[cherrymeg]

Yes he “apparently” killed them all in the home but the two boys were toddlers and certainly didn’t put up a struggle.

I haven't been following this case but from what I googled it was a surprisingly clean crime scene. If LE thought the family was in Mexico does that mean he cleaned up the blood? I know that's a morbid question.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

One of the - if not the - most important planks in the boardwalk if one tries to travel down the 3MW roadway, and instead many just brush off explaining the cause and effect nature of this most sterling signpost.

If we knew who (one) didn't pass the polygraph...that might help to know if GRs were involved.

 

[cherrymeg]

If we knew who (one) didn't pass the polygraph...that might help to know if GRs were involved.

If people are lying about other things could that affect the polygraph? Maybe they robbed other cemeteries or where trying to not seem high or like they had drugs on them. Kids sometimes cover up stupid things because they are protecting themselves and can't see much beyond what will happen to them. If the grave robbers were polygraphed they seem like they could have had a lot of things they would have been scared to to tell police. If they are murderers they might still have useful information. I think they need to be questioned now. Sorry, I know I'm repeating myself.

 

[asyousay]

I haven't been following this case but from what I googled it was a surprisingly clean crime scene. If LE thought the family was in Mexico does that mean he cleaned up the blood? I know that's a morbid question.

From the little that has been revealed they didn’t test for blood back when they first vanished I don’t think. They thought the family had willingly gone off. But when years later they went back thought the house they found Chase has painted and there was blood splatter found around certain areas of the house including the bathroom (if I am remembering correctly). Thankfully Chase wasn’t as clever as he thought he was and he will go to jail for a very long time.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Unless they were the ones that expressed concern to someone higher up the chain, about Susie narking everyone out to the cops. Then "They" wouldn't have been considered the weak link, She would have. And that's what I think is the most likely scenario. They weren't worried about the Grave Robbers, as much as they were Susie, because "She" was considered the "Nark", not them.

JMO.

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Suzie was unaware of what was going to happen but she told them enough to get them charged for institutional vandalism. Sadly, Mrs. McCall hoped the women were being held until after the court date.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do w/ the disappearance because of what Clay said. Hoping the bleeeps were dead.
If he had anything to do with it, or knew who was responsible, what an idiotic thing to say.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I know SPD dismissed the stolen car (from the McCall neighborhood) and found at the movie theater (where Suzie worked?) but as far as I know, SPD never explained as to why it a connection was dismissed.

Quite the coincidence....

 

[Blue Girl1991]

Nope, not referring to your post at all. Just putting forward my own theory. Anybody who thinks that they would NOT be persuaded by a gun pointed directly at them has NEVER had a gun pointed directly at them. I have.

I have and my instinct was to get mad. I've bet my life on people having bad aim or not actually being able to pull the trigger. I'm not saying that works in every case or everyone should antagonize and yell at a person with a gun but my experience was different than yours.

I am sorry to hear about the horrific events that happened to you
And I'm very glad you both survived and you're all right!!