Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[Blue Girl1991]

I still don’t believe one person pulled this off. The bedrooms were not near each other and if this was a random sexual predator then he couldn’t of controlled them because of the layout. IMO

Also Stacey has no reason to go along with whoever did this as she had no loyalty to Sherill and Suzie, why would she?

From all accounts she had only recently reconnected with Suzie. So I can see Suzie would fear for her mum and vice versa but Stacey would literally want out. That fits in with rumours Stacey fought as well which I can believe.

I also believe that the crime committed by several criminals and not only one,
I believe that before the crime was committed there were also surveillance on the house.

 

[rat sally]

Three at the most, two probably, never just one.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

If we knew who (one) didn't pass the polygraph...that might help to know if GRs were involved.

I totally agree MooseMeMuch !

If the police will release the name of the person who failed the polygraph
that might be a huge step in order to solve this case,
I don't know why they don't do it, after 26 years there is nothing to lose.
If people will know who is it then someone from his sircle of his friend or Acquaintances
might come forward with important information , it is suspicious that he is the only person who failed the test, in any case if he failed but he isn't part of the crime
then at least we narrowed the options ... and if he is part of the crime then he hold information about the motive, Partners in crime . Telling his name is a key that maybe can bring justice in this case to the victims and to their families.

I hope the women families will put pressure on the authorities so the name will be released.

 

[cherrymeg]

I totally agree MooseMeMuch !

If the police will release the name of the person who failed the polygraph
that might be a huge step in order to solve this case,
I don't know why they don't do it, after 26 years there is nothing to lose,
if people will know who is it then someone from his sircle of his friend or Acquaintances
might come forward with important information , it is suspicious that he is the only person who failed the test, in any case if he failed but he isn't part of the crime
then at least we narrowed the options ... and if he is part of the crime then he hold information about the motive, Partners in crime . Telling his name is a key that can
bring justice in this case to the victims and to their families.

I hope the women families will put pressure on the authorities so the name will be released.

Sometimes holding things back is good as long as they are actually investigating the case. Sometimes catching someone off guard is good because they don't have time to prepare and get a lawyer.

 

[Catmommy]

Since this investigation is by no means closed, just cold as frigid Hell, we have to accept that there may be a lot of information that has not been released to the public.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

Sometimes holding things back is good as long as they are actually investigating the case. Sometimes catching someone off guard is good because they don't have time to prepare and get a lawyer.

I can definitely understand this point of view but after 26 years when there is no real progress, then maybe it's time for the police to change a strategy.

 

[cherrymeg]

I can definitely understand this point of view but after 26 years when there is no real progress, then maybe it's time to change a strategy.

I don't know much a about polygraphs. I think I would fail. Anytime a doctor checks my pulse it freaks me out. Even when they do the blood pressure I get nervous. It's not rational but by having someone check my heart beats makes me worry it will just stop. Being hooked up to something that would check if I was lying and/or my heart rate I be so worried about failing and what my heart was doing that my name might seem like a lie. Has anyone ever taken one or wondered if they are accurate?

 

[rat sally]

There's a reason polygraphs usually are not used in court. They don't work.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Three at the most, two probably, never just one.

Never say Never. It could have just as easily been committed by just one person. And, until the crime is solved, we'll never know.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

There's a reason polygraphs usually are not used in court. They don't work.

The do work to a degree, and are used as a tool. The measure much more than just heart rate. They measure heart rate, perspiration secretion, nervous response, and much more. They are used to measure your bodies responses to both known stimuli questions, and unknown stimuli questions. They are a good gauge or tool to judge if someone is being forthright to certain questions, and weather those questions should be probed further by investigators. No, they can't be used in a court of law because they are not infallible, but rather as a tool for further investigation, and have been quite successful in past and present investigations, as a TOOL.

 

[Brubeck]

I say unto you all: never take a polygraph, and first, lawyer up. The degree of innocence or culpability is for justice to decide.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

If people are lying about other things could that affect the polygraph? Maybe they robbed other cemeteries or where trying to not seem high or like they had drugs on them. Kids sometimes cover up stupid things because they are protecting themselves and can't see much beyond what will happen to them. If the grave robbers were polygraphed they seem like they could have had a lot of things they would have been scared to to tell police. If they are murderers they might still have useful information. I think they need to be questioned now. Sorry, I know I'm repeating myself.

definitely be questioned again...Clay and Recla were at parties that evening/night but......

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I say unto you all: never take a polygraph, and first, lawyer up. The degree of innocence or culpability is for justice to decide.

Used to I would disagree with that but with this case, LE would be all too eager to pin this on anybody off the street. Just my opinion.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

I would have to agree with you on this one. They would have either gone after Garrison, or the Grave Robbers. At least you'd think. Unless, it was known for a fact that one or more of the women knew something that just couldn't be told to the police. If that was the case, then they would have to go after them. But you'd think that they would have also gone after Garrison too. Personally, I don't think the GGMC had anything to do with this crime. And I also have doubts that Garrison even had any connection to any of them. When would he have had time. He spent more time in prison than he did out of prison. And the GGMC are a VERY tight group who don't warm up to strangers or outsiders at all. I think the notion that Garrison had GGMC connections is just the product of internet gossip, and not founded on any ounce of truth. Garrison didn't even have a motorcycle endorsement, nor did he own a Harley. The GGMC wouldn't have allowed him to be close enough to them to know their business, if he wasn't one of them. And he wasn't one of them. Just more internet rumor, gossip, and conjecture.

Coming on here to say this post is completely wrong.

1. Garrison was/is a GGMC
2. Garrison definitely owned a Harley
3. Definitely has the "stripes" tattoo'd to him, including a giant Harley tattoo on his back (source: The Springfield Three 1992)

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Garrison did not commission this crime. He was out of jail for 3 weeks. And I believe it was a planned crime. I do not think he'd have time to develop an interest with Suzie or Sherrill in that time.

Does he have valuable info? I bet so. That cannot be ruled out.

 

[k-mac]

sounds like someone we know has a new 'profile"

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

sounds like someone we know has a new 'profile"

Nope

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Someone on another forum lived next to Garrison and has seen the Harley logo and another was a witness to him and his old Harley in 1992

 

[poppy8]

One way these things are worked: I need a dirty deed done; my MC's well-known and bound to be looked at when it hits the fan; therefore, I call in a favor or know my rider from an affiliate MC in a town a fair ways away; then he - they - do it damn done and I have only risked myself doing recon and mapping out the scene for them, pictures, escape routes, etc. My brother MC gets the other half of his cut when it's over. Cops are easily baffled, decades sail by, the end.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

One way these things are worked: I need a dirty deed done; my MC's well-known and bound to be looked at when it hits the fan; therefore, I call in a favor or know my rider from an affiliate MC in a town a fair ways away; then he - they - do it damn done and I have only risked myself doing recon and mapping out the scene for them, pictures, escape routes, etc. My brother MC gets the other half of his cut when it's over. Cops are easily baffled, decades sail by, the end.

I don't see any reason for the club to facilitate this crime.......no motive.

I do believe Garrison has valuable info or Detective Thomas wouldn't have leaned on him so much......