Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[k-mac]

I agree and have thought the exact same thing. Why would she have pulled her car onto the grass in a drive way she had pulled into many many times.
And, as you said, the wash cloths in the bathroom don't mean that they were used that night. They could have been used earlier in the day as you said.
Why would Sherrill have place her purse in Susie's room, this isn't normal. Even the detectives that investigated the case said the house didn't look normal. They said it looked perfect, too perfect. When a detective says that, there is much more behind what they are saying. They are suspicious that it was either cleaned and/or staged.

which brings us full circle back to last known people to see the girls coming and going freely from the house all day and NOT REPORTING IT TO POLICE

jmo

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

You are trying to force a theory to fit rather than discussing other possible reasons said things could have happened.

Circumstantial evidence all around this case that makes you go "huh?" But the fact is, the police liked Garrison after all the dust cleared. LE liked Recla, Clay, and Riedel (Disappeared and Crime Watch Daily).

Janelle definitely did some weird things. I won't deny that.

Not trying to force any theory. Just following the known evidence where it leads me. Nothing more.

 

[k-mac]

good conversation peps .
lots of people who read here will learn lots when posts are fully clear about who and what your talking about to help them form an opinion

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

which brings us full circle back to last known people to see the girls coming and going freely from the house all day and NOT REPORTING IT TO POLICE

jmo

Exactly! Nothing those two did the next day, made one lick of sense. Neither did the use of the term "That Other Girl". That is called distancing behavior by psychologists. She also, years later in another interview, catch's herself in mid sentence when talking about she and mike going to Susies house the next day, and says, "We'd never been there before". This is called Minimizing Behavior by psychologists. Then she acts like the dog is happy to see her, when she had never even been to the house they had lived in for a couple months, nor were very close to each other as stated by Ms. McCall. Like I said, none of the stories pass muster!

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

which brings us full circle back to last known people to see the girls coming and going freely from the house all day and NOT REPORTING IT TO POLICE

jmo

Janis didn't report it right away either. Was she being suspicious?

I have to laugh when anyone thinks <modsnip- rude> Janelle had a hand in making three women disappear without a single iota of a trace.

I think big powerful people had a hand in this. And you'll never get to the bottom of this without fully investigating Sherrill Levitt's background. She's one of the ones missing. She was unaccounted for after Apco/11:15 phone call.

 

[k-mac]

Janis didn't report it right away either. Was she being suspicious?

yes she did as soon as she made a run through sherills house.

unlike others......

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Exactly! Nothing those two did the next day, made one lick of sense. Neither did the use of the term "That Other Girl". That is called distancing behavior by psychologists. She also, years later in another interview, catch's herself in mid sentence when talking about she and mike going to Susies house the next day, and says, "We'd never been there before". This is called Minimizing Behavior by psychologists. Then she acts like the dog is happy to see her, when she had never even been to the house they had lived in for a couple months, nor were very close to each other as stated by Ms. McCall. Like I said, none of the stories pass muster!

Janelle had been to the house on Walnut Lawn a bunch of times. She would have seen the dog then.

So that pokes a few holes in your dog theory.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Janis didn't report it right away either. Was she being suspicious?

I have to laugh when anyone thinks <modsnip - rude> Janelle had a hand in making three women disappear without a single iota of a trace.

I think big powerful people had a hand in this. And you'll never get to the bottom of this without fully investigating Sherrill Levitt's background. She's one of the ones missing. She was unaccounted for after Apco/11:15 phone call.

Janis didn't know that their cars were there and the personal affects until her friend told her later that evening and she went to the house at 7:30pm. The only thing Janis knew was that she hand't stayed at Janelles, and had stayed at Susies instead after she called Janelles looking for Stacy. She then decided to go to the lake and it wasn't until later that evening that she was made aware of the suspicious circumstances, then she went to Susies house.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

yes she did as soon as she made a run through sherills house.

unlike others......

Incorrect. She waited a few hours. Source: Crime Watch Daily and NewsLeader timeline of events in 1992.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Janelle had been to the house on Walnut Lawn a bunch of times. She would have seen the dog then.

So that pokes a few holes in your dog theory.

According to Ms. McCall the girls had not been close for many years, and only started to reacquaint in the weeks prior to graduation. At that point they were living in the Delmar House, not in the Apartments. There are not accounts of Janelle ever visiting Susie's apartment prior to her moving to the Delmar house.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Incorrect. She waited a few hours. Source: Crime Watch Daily and NewsLeader timeline of events in 1992.

After calling Janelles house looking for Stacy, Janice considered going to the Delmar house to retrieve Stacy's car, but instead went to the lake with her mother and a couple other relatives to watch the boat races. (Springfield News-Leader) She subsequently went to the Delmar house later that night after receiving a call from her friend asking her if she knew that the house was unlocked and the girls were missing but their personal effects were there. (Original Springfield Police Report Taken the night of 6/7/1992)

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

According to Ms. McCall the girls had not been close for many years, and only started to reacquaint in the weeks prior to graduation. At that point they were living in the Delmar House, not in the Apartments. There are not accounts of Janelle ever visiting Susie's apartment prior to her moving to the Delmar house.

Yes there are.

You just haven't found them. There's interviews with Janelle on Disappeared. There's one at the 10 year mark in 2002 still archived on KSPR's site.

<modsnip - personalizing>

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yes there are.

You just haven't found them. There's interviews with Janelle on Disappeared. There's one at the 10 year mark in 2002 still archived on KSPR's site.

<modsnip - personalizing>.

<modsnip - response to snipped portion of quoted post>

This has been a quite civil conversation using civil verbiage. I have gone back through years of microfile that I sent off for and spent hours upon hours sifting through and coping everything known to the case. The Disappeard Video was littered with untruths and inconsistencies, as have many of the various media stories of the day. The most accurate video I have ever watched was the original 48hrs video that was made a few days after the crime was committed. It's like the tell your neighbor game. The further down the line the story goes, the less factually accurate it becomes. Also there was some bad and inaccurate news paper reporting from newspapers other than the Springfield New-Leader which I consider to be the most accurate.

So tell me your theory on this on: Per the (Aug 3, 1992 Edition of the Springfield News-Leader) why can/have the FBI, SPD, GCSO, SWMO Orginized Crime Task Force, and the platitude of other investigating agencies that were involved in the case, still not be able to confirm Mike Henson's alibi, as well as match Janelle K. an Mike H's stories, some three months later.

With all of these high profile professional criminal investigation agencies involved in this case, they would have been able to clear any of these issues up in less than a week! Unless they weren't being told the truth. Unless the people investigating the crime, weren't being told the truth!

That is the only way. Normal NO ----- Highly Suspicious YES

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yes there are.

You just haven't found them. There's interviews with Janelle on Disappeared. There's one at the 10 year mark in 2002 still archived on KSPR's site.

<modsnip - personalizing>

I have watched every piece of media and read every piece of media available on this case, but thank you.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

A few things...

1. Confirmation of alibi or not does not equate to guilt. Some times people are alone or doing their own thing with no digital foot print or trackable source. It happens.

2. I do not believe alibis and confirmation and such are going to be always be published publicly. Mostly because it's an ongoing investigation and it would be compromised.

3. There's nothing that definitively says Mike Henson's alibi is confirmed or denied or where these various agencies have had trouble. That's embellishing on your part.

4. Why is Henson an automatic suspect? Because he's dating Janelle? Why does his alibi need confirming if he's not a suspect. Why not Janelle's dad? Or Janelle's sister? I mean if that's the logic. Too speculative and unfounded for my liking.

 

[k-mac]

well uncorroborated alibis, last known people to be seen with, first people on the scene, multiple trips in and out of sherills house whom mike and Janelle admit have never been to before.
both admit things seemed weird.
including but not limited to on arrival finding a broken light and no one home, finding a broom cleaning it up and removing it to a rubbish bin on a industrial site over the road.
you have accessed the house to get a broom.....why wouldn't you sweep it up into the closest bin possible???

am interested springfieldman <modsnip - condescending> please put forward a justification for Janelle and mike arriving and removing this evidence.

 

[asyousay]

To also add in the weird phone calls they had that day when the police first responded oddly no mention of said phone call to the house yet Janelle was spooked I thought?!

So why did something like phone call that was sexual in nature and must of stood out on that weird day not make it into the original first responders police report?

Also why was Janelle still very wet at 9/10pm at night? - it stood out so much that the police took note of it. Obviously Mike wasn’t still wet so why was she?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

To also add in the weird phone calls they had that day when the police first responded oddly no mention of said phone call to the house yet Janelle was spooked I thought?!

So why did something like phone call that was sexual in nature and must of stood out on that weird day not make it into the original first responders police report?

Also why was Janelle still very wet at 9/10pm at night? - it stood out so much that the police took note of it. Obviously Mike wasn’t still wet so why was she?

Excellent points that I've pondered as well. Why was the call to the house that Janelle supposedly received when she and Mike were in the house earlier, not mentioned to Police or noted in the original police report? Also, why did Janelle supposedly start calling the house at 7:30am as noted in the original police report, but then change her timeline a few years later when she was interviewed to her starting to call the house at 8:30am-9:00am? Who forgets specific details like that. And why, after going to the Delmar house at 12:30pm with Mike to hook up with the girls to go to the water park, and finding her "Friends" house open and cars there, and them missing, does she not return to the house until approx. 7pm. If she was so excited to be going to the water park the next day that she started calling the house at 7:30am, why does it take her until 12:30pm to arrive at the Delmar house, and then why does she seemingly blow off her friends and their plans to go to the water park, when she doesn't even know at that point why they aren't at the house. Why does she abandon her plans to go with her friends when she doesn't even know that the plans have changed. None of her story or actions make sense at all. And, like you said, and I have wondered as well, if she and Mike decided to go to the local water slide instead, why is she still soaking wet at 10pm at night? Surely they would have gone to the water slide, as implied by Janelle, much earlier in the day. Sounds to me like the "Plans" to go to the water park in Branson weren't that important to her, or circumstances changed drastically and the water park wasn't important at that point. These are important points in my opinion. Things that stand out like a sore thumb that have never been answered, that need to be for any of their actions to make any sense what so ever.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Dusty moves immediately to Colorado after June 7th.
Riedel to Illinois right after June 7th.
Clay hitchhikes to California after June 7th.
Clay has known connections to Gallopping Gooses.
Clay bought drugs from and hung with Garrison.
Garrison is Doug Thomas and Dave Asher's top CI for the case.

Do you guys need it spelled out? Boogie man department? HA!

Does GGMC have a history of abducting women?

And what would enrage GGMC 'enough' to abduct/murder 3 women? Enrage being the key word.

 

[asyousay]

Excellent points that I've pondered as well. Why was the call to the house that Janelle supposedly received when she and Mike were in the house earlier, not mentioned to Police or noted in the original police report? Also, why did Janelle supposedly start calling the house at 7:30am as noted in the original police report, but then change her timeline a few years later when she was interviewed to her starting to call the house at 8:30am-9:00am? Who forgets specific details like that. And why, after going to the Delmar house at 12:30pm with Mike to hook up with the girls to go to the water park, and finding her "Friends" house open and cars there, and them missing, does she not return to the house until approx. 7pm. If she was so excited to be going to the water park the next day that she started calling the house at 7:30am, why does it take her until 12:30pm to arrive at the Delmar house, and then why does she seemingly blow off her friends and their plans to go to the water park, when she doesn't even know at that point why they aren't at the house. Why does she abandon her plans to go with her friends when she doesn't even know that the plans have changed. None of her story or actions make sense at all. And, like you said, and I have wondered as well, if she and Mike decided to go to the local water slide instead, why is she still soaking wet at 10pm at night? Surely they would have gone to the water slide, as implied by Janelle, much earlier in the day. Sounds to me like the "Plans" to go to the water park in Branson weren't that important to her, or circumstances changed drastically and the water park wasn't important at that point. These are important points in my opinion. Things that stand out like a sore thumb that have never been answered, that need to be for any of their actions to make any sense what so ever.

Yes the must frustrating part for me is Janelle is allowed to alter the time line and at no point do LE try and establish why she is off with her times. Surely getting the timeline established is the most important part. Janelle had family and guests over so surely they could of been able to confirm if it was 8am, 9am or whoever she started to call the house.

Why was Janelle still slacking wet and it was odd enough to take note of but why not actually just ask her?