Misty Failed Polygraph Test

[texasmommy39]

The bed was made according to RC. According to RC he believes that Misty did not go to sleep. I have personal experience with 10-26 year olds that have been abused. Their coping mechanisms can be quite similar to Misty's and you might be quite surprised at the sophistication of their manipulation and lies. The fact that she said she actually looked under the bed for HaLeigh is NOT linguistics, it is an outright lie or the bed was up off the floor. It's logistically impossible for HaLeigh to be hiding under a bed that is on the floor. Unless someone suffocated her under it.

The master bed I believe was up off the floor, but would love to go and look for a link if needed.:blowkiss:

 

[weasel]

She's 17 years old. 17 year old girls don't think about liguistics of things. I will find the interview link for you where she said her brother was afraid to talk to police

But in my opinion, Misty isn't a typical 17 year old girl. How many 17 year old girls do you know who go on three day party binges? Misty is street smart even if she is rather unintelligent in her speech and writing skills.

 

[minazoe]

you know i thought she really did tell truthfully when she talked about that door and the laundry and what she told police...here's what I wonder...does she know more now? has she been threatened? does she have suspicions and worries and that's why she failed the poly?

she always looked a little high to me...but that does'nt mean lying...it means high. thats all.

 

[debs]

Just curious, what sort of things should Misty have done? She put the kids to bed, went to sleep. Said she locked the door. I always find it amazing that people out there cannot grasp the notion that intruders really DO break-in to places and take children. We went through this in the van Dam case where posters were absoultely defiant about how Westerfield got into that house until i went over there myself and documented the whole event photos and all. Posters went as far out as making up ridiculous theories on how Danielle got into Westerfield's home and RV right down to having her mother Brenda sleeping in his bed with him that night. If it quacks like a duck then it's a duck. Usually crime scenes are what they seem. Little to NO evidence here in this case. Door blocked open for someone who went in with the intention of taking that child. Pedophile. Misty Croslin is not sophistocated enough to think of these things. Sorry not at 17. She is VERY clear about that door being open. The fact that she said she looked under the bed when the bed was on the floor is just linguistics. Teenager talk. And who knows if ALL the beds were on the floor? There is absoultely NO motive for Misty to have done anything to Haleigh. None at all

You're attempting to confuse the issue. Innocent people don't make up stories that conflict. Innocent people don't change their story to fit what may have been revealed since their inconsistencies were pointed out. Innocent people stick to what they know. She is making up excuses to explain away how "what she knows" does not fit what can be proven through evidence. Period.

 

[texasmommy39]

If you were around posting during the Ramsey, Runnion, VanDam, Smart, and Peterson case, you know i pinned them all, right down to a timeline for Westerfield. God that case sucked me in. Some vital hours of employment were lost then LOL.

Luckily for me the Anthony case has bored me to tears. Although one that should be carefully studied. I think the family magnetics is facinating. I just cannot stomach Cindy or George for that matter. I sorta like Misty. She's grown on me. Never liked the Ramsey's not for one minute. Dispised their attitude and distaste for LE. I couldn't understand people with their money wouldn't have done everything in their power to find out what happened to their daughter. IMO their guilt was apparent from the get go, right down to Patsy Ramsey wearing the same outfit the night before when police arrived. -ahhh but I am getting off topic. I learned from Lou Smit, who many of you here dispise that crime scenes are what they seem in most cases, unfortunately Lou factored in a stun gun theory that couldn't be proven, so for him, his crime scene has been obscured by the truth, that even so it wouldn't have proven there was an intruder, only that a stun gun could have been used in the crime. This case is much more simplier in the fact that there was NO elaborate cover-up, no bowls of fruit left out on the table, no duct tape, rope, ransom note, etc. This case speaks for itself. There was even less evidence in the van Dam case. No fingerprints of Westerfield's found in the home, no evidence of him being there at all. Yet Danielle's bed was empty the next morning. When an intruder enters a home to abduct or murder a child, they usually don't leave evidence, it's when things are added to a crime scene that the real murderer is trying to point to someone else. We don't have that in the Cummings case. Simplicity. Open door blocked, missing child.

Hello Nedthan Johns,
I was wondering if you might share your theory here or direct me to a post that would enlighten me? IMO the crime scene was staged to look like many things to confuse LE from the begining. It worked I have to say and who ever was the mastermind behind this did think of a few more elements to gain more from this crime than HaLeigh. (The very date she was abducted!!! the various players who became involved and showed themselves to be liars in the claim they where looking for Haliegh and this is about finding HaLeigh. It was apparent from the begining there was personal agendas being persued by many and It was not to find and recover HaLeigh. Ron has undergone the most horrifice life experiance that any individual much less a father has had to endure and live through and I imagine the Cummings Family will never be the same even if HaLeigh is found and returned. My heart goes out to HaLeigh and those that truelly love her, because untill she is returned everones heart remains broken and stolen and HaLeigh will never be forgotten.

 

[texasmommy39]

LOL, Ned..you know that I do. I also think that any 17 year old who smokes and does not have a key to the house is quite sophisticated enough to prop a door to get back in...IIRC they said they never smoked in the house. Which could be a lie too, just saying. We are dealing with RC who has a longrap sheet and someone who lived with him. I think they have both been exposed to enough to be much more wily than most give credit for....even a moderately intelligent 17 year old.

Why would she prop a door to have a smoke? If it is unlocked she could get back in no need to prop a screen door to get back in!

 

[Jolynna]

Misty may only be 17, but she knows whether or not she was ever in the master bed the night Haleigh went missing. Even her staunchest defender, Ron, now says the bed had not been slept in.

That is an inconsistency.

 

[weasel]

LOL, Ned..you know that I do. I also think that any 17 year old who smokes and does not have a key to the house is quite sophisticated enough to prop a door to get back in...IIRC they said they never smoked in the house. Which could be a lie too, just saying. We are dealing with RC who has a longrap sheet and someone who lived with him. I think they have both been exposed to enough to be much more wily than most give credit for....even a moderately intelligent 17 year old.

I agree. Misty isn't your typical 17 year old girl. Smoking isn't the half of it. We're talking about a 17 year old girl who goes on 3 day drug and booze benders and from all accounts is fairly promiscuous. This girl is street smart. No sophistication required. She may not have actually been involved in Haleigh's disappearance, but I do believe there's alot she's not telling. I've always been of the opinion that she wasn't in the house that night due to the fact that she can't keep her story straight and the fact that the back door was propped open. I think she left it open when she snuck out after the kids were asleep. What I can't figure out is if indeed she had left the house that night, someone had to have seen her. She had to have been somewhere, right? I'm leaning towards a party somewhere.

 

[Noway]

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When an intruder enters a home to abduct or murder a child, they usually don't leave evidence, it's when things are added to a crime scene that the real murderer is trying to point to someone else. We don't have that in the Cummings case. Simplicity. Open door blocked, missing child.

I'm either misunderstanding your point or you are contradicting yourself.

If we go with the pedophile entering the home and snatching Haleigh and not leaving evidence, how do you account for the cinder block?

Or was the pedophile trying to point to someone else by bringing the cinder block into the house?

Or was the cinder block there so someone leaving the house could do so if her arms were full (as in carrying something or someone).

 

[Skully]

The master bed I believe was up off the floor, but would love to go and look for a link if needed.:blowkiss:

Just saw the video again today of the infamous walk through, beds are on the floor.

 

[Skully]

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When an intruder enters a home to abduct or murder a child, they usually don't leave evidence, it's when things are added to a crime scene that the real murderer is trying to point to someone else. We don't have that in the Cummings case. Simplicity. Open door blocked, missing child.

I'm either misunderstanding your point or you are contradicting yourself.

If we go with the pedophile entering the home and snatching Haleigh and not leaving evidence, how do you account for the cinder block?

Or was the pedophile trying to point to someone else by bringing the cinder block into the house?

Or was the cinder block there so someone leaving the house could do so if her arms were full (as in carrying something or someone).

I have never heard of a B.Y.O.B kidnapping before. If the person knew enough about the MH that the door had to be bricked then he knew there were bricks around to hold the door open. This brick was brought into the picture to confuse.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL, Ned..you know that I do. I also think that any 17 year old who smokes and does not have a key to the house is quite sophisticated enough to prop a door to get back in...IIRC they said they never smoked in the house. Which could be a lie too, just saying. We are dealing with RC who has a longrap sheet and someone who lived with him. I think they have both been exposed to enough to be much more wily than most give credit for....even a moderately intelligent 17 year old.

Why would she go grab a block, lug it up the ramp, and prop open the door if she was just going to smoke or even go to a party? If the door was left unlocked and the screen had no lock...just shut the door and go. Or to smoke...why not just step out on the front porch?

 

[Noway]

Wouldn't the purpose of the cinder block propping the door be so the pedophile (or Misti, or UnSub to be more precise) could carry Haleigh out without trying to negotiate the door with her in his arms?

How is that confusing?

 

[stilettos]

Why would she go grab a block, lug it up the ramp, and prop open the door if she was just going to smoke or even go to a party? If the door was left unlocked and the screen had no lock...just shut the door and go. Or to smoke...why not just step out on the front porch?

I don't know SS...I would tend to think the brick had been used before...but I am starting to doubt my own sanity anyway. Somebody find us some real evidence quick before they check me in.

 

[Noway]

Or are you saying that Misti was trying to confuse LE and make it look like someone came into the house (to get Haleigh) when it was really her or someone else coming out of the house (with Haleigh)?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Just saw the video again today of the infamous walk through, beds are on the floor.

Yes, both beds in the master bedroom are on the floor. We never saw Rj's bed or bedframe to my knowledge tho.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Wouldn't the purpose of the cinder block propping the door be so the pedophile (or Misti, or UnSub to be more precise) could carry Haleigh out without trying to negotiate the door with her in his arms?

How is that confusing?

I would say you are correct. No matter who took Haleigh outside the door...the block was used to make it easier. Even if the scene were staged, she still had to get her outside so the block would be useful.

 

[lil momma]

The master bed I believe was up off the floor, but would love to go and look for a link if needed.:blowkiss:

Hi texasmommy39:

Here is the link. (post # 28) The mattresses were on the floor. No frames. The only frame seen in the walk through was in HC's room, but there was no mattress on it. (i believe it was on the floor in the materbed room)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79854&page=2

Hope this helps!

 

[Gma Kat]

Why would she prop a door to have a smoke? If it is unlocked she could get back in no need to prop a screen door to get back in!

I was going to say so that she could hear the kids if they needed her, but then again if she was that kind of caregiver Haleigh might not be missing now.

 

[Gma Kat]

IIRC, the only people saying she had passed were her and Ron and Ron probably heard it from her and believed it. I'm pretty sure the police never said a word about it until now.

Right, I recall Ron didn't claim MC passed the test, only that he hadn't heard to the contrary.....it was MC that claimed she had passed 2 tests IIRC.