Misty makes shocking claims on the Early Show 2009.10.9. -*video inlcuded*

[WillenFan21]

I'd still like to know what her reasoning is for making that statement. Why would somebody on CS's side of the family take Haleigh, and what did they do with her? It really doesn't make sense when said at the same time that CS didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh. I wish she'd been asked "why". :waitasec: MOO

I agree with you. It is ludicrous for her to be blaming Crystal's family b.c it doesn't make a lick of sense. Why would they take Haleigh and not Junior?

 

[Flossie JMO]

It made perfect sense to me, jmo

 

[panthera]

It made perfect sense to me, jmo

Well, it does to me also but only in the sense that she's trying to deflect suspicion off herself. MOO

 

[Flossie JMO]

No worries, we can agree to disagree. Ot does anyone have the link for Crystal's sister being arrested for iirc violating probation? Wonder if PCSO took the opportunity to have a chat with her.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Well, it does to me also but only in the sense that she's trying to deflect suspicion off herself. MOO

Exactly...or to be more precise imo..to try and turn suspicion off she and Ron and towards Crystal and family. She didn't even do a good job trying to do that. No one (ok, a very, very few) even think that a remote possibility anymore, if they ever did. I say give her a little more rope, she'll hang herself ..and Ron too imo.

 

[Pondering Mind]

No worries, we can agree to disagree. Ot does anyone have the link for Crystal's sister being arrested for iirc violating probation? Wonder if PCSO took the opportunity to have a chat with her.

someone posted it downstairs. I don't have the link, but I'm sure you can check there. HTH

eta-or just look it up on the PCSO site. I have never heard anything about the Sheffields refusing to cooperate, only the Cummings..so I have to imagine that if they needed to talk to her that she has always been available..

 

[atherella]

No worries, we can agree to disagree. Ot does anyone have the link for Crystal's sister being arrested for iirc violating probation? Wonder if PCSO took the opportunity to have a chat with her.

http://inmatesearch.jaxsheriff.org/jso_public_iis/(S(jpkxfr5544pvyoqjo5crotmx))/default.aspx

Here you go.

Just type her name into this page and it will pull up the info.

 

[txsvicki]

Oh my, Misty is really talking bad about Crystal on national TV again by saying that she's not close to her daughter. I still believe that Misty is obsessed with Ron, the mothers of his kids, and there's lots of jealousy involved.

 

[Concerned Papa]

~Respectfully Snipped~

Her version of events were clear, distinct, and not contradictory to anything I have heard to date.

Really? Referencing Misty Croslin-Cummings’ hypnosis session allow me to point out portions of her version of events that IMO are NOT clear or distinct, and are contradictory.


Who took Haleigh to school on 2/9?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

Then we took her to school and I walked to her into school, walked her all the way to her classroom

6/11/09-Art Harris Article:

Ronald was up all Sunday night waiting for Misty to come home. The sources say she never did, and he finally fell asleep—and overslept. Then had to rush and race to get Haleigh to school

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/haleigh-exclusive-bloody-hands-timeline-details/#more-2186

Who picked Haleigh up at the bus stop?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

Ronald picked Haleigh up at the bus, I stayed at the house

6/11/09-Art Harris Article:

At least three parents tell me they only saw Misty at the bus stop. But Santos tells me, “Misty was definitely driving”

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/haleigh-exclusive-bloody-hands-timeline-details/#more-2186

How does a five year old pop or try to pop wheelies on a bicycle with training wheels?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

my brother was there and we just watched the kids play in the yard and Haleigh was doing great, riding her bike trying to pop wheelies

Misty has told three different versions of what Haleigh wearing when last seen

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

She was wearing her pink Hannah Montana shirt and her underwear.

2/10-911 Call:

911: What was she last seen wearing?

Croslin: She was in her pajamas.

2/10-PCSO Report:

Clothing Description: PINK T-SHIRT, AND TAN SHORTS

Day/Date/Time When: Monday 2/9/09 22:00 (10:00 p.m.)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

Misty has changed the story as to what time she woke up.

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

The first time you woke up what time was it?

Three, all I seen was 3, that’s all.

There is a night stand next to the bed and it’s facing towards the back of the room and it’s red, it says it in red and all I remember seeing is 3, that’s all I remember seeing is 3. "

2/10-PCSO Report:

Misty told me she woke up just before 3:00 am to get a drink and she noticed that Haleigh was missing.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

Misty told a different version of when she noticed the kitchen light was on

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

And then when I woke up and he was on one side of me but he was moved to the other side of me and that is when I woke up and noticed that the light was on in the kitchen

2/12-Greta Van Susteren Interview:

VAN SUSTEREN: So, tell me what happened. You got up to use the bathroom, is that right?

CROSLIN: Yes. I got up to use the bathroom. I did not make it to the bathroom. I walked into the living room and noticed the kitchen light was on.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492185,00.html

Where was Misty at when she noticed the back door open? The living room or the kitchen?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

I went to the kitchen and I seen the back door was open


2/12-Greta Van Susteren Interview:

I walked into the living room and noticed the kitchen light was on, and I saw the back door open.

Was the back door “open” or “wide open”?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

I went to the kitchen and I seen the back door was open

2/10-911 Call:

"...Um... I was... I just woke up.... and our door was wide open.... and we can't find our daughter...."

How could it be “wide open”? The door is shown to be self closing in this video:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/03/06/ng.haleigh.home.cnn

IMO when Putnam County Sheriff's Major Gary Bowling stated the following about Misty Croslin-Cummings, these are likely only a small portion of what he referenced:

"We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291008?Title=New-search-today-for-missing-girl

 

[azwriter]

From what I have heard from Misty, she is telling the truth about everything she knows. When she guesses about things, such as the "other side of the family" she is doing exactly what we do in WS, taking information and making a guess about what the reality of the situation is. She's just doing it in front of national media cameras so that is just a touch different than what we do here on WS.

Considering her age, I think she is doing a super job, I am extremely impressed with her "uneducated" ability to defend herself. She appears to me to be a young girl who has nothing to hide and with an inner strength to handle the "crap" she is being subject to primarily because she indeed knows, within herself, that she is innocent.

I need to add this: I am disgusted by NG and her sidekick as to how they are picking on this girl. Thankfully, I believe that she has a nature that is strong enough to deal with all of the nasties. One other thing, people even use the idea that she chain smokes as some sort of proof of her character. I smoked for 30 years and quit 10 years ago. I wouldn't dream of using "smoking" as a proof of bad in nature.

Hi Normcar21. I'm personally questioning your statement that I bolded. On this site, you are correct, we are giving our opinions. However, we are not faced with being the the last one to see Haleigh before she disappeared. None of us are defending ourselves from being questioned by the police.
I believe Misty's motive to point out who may be responsible is entirely different than anyone posting here. I think her goal in naming suspects is to take the focus off herself.

 

[MeoW333]

Popping a wheelie with training wheels on a bike can be done, you are lifting up the front end of the bike. I;m sure that Haleigh would try to pop a wheelie and get the front tire off the ground a bit. Not sure if she could keep riding like that though; back tire on the ground, front in the air still.. it is hard and takes a lot of practice and good balance. I think she was probably practicing her wheelies though. Lifting up just the front part of the bike by using the handlebars. She may have not got much air, as long as Haleigh was having fun, that's what counts.

 

[MeoW333]

Clearly you would be very welcome on NG's program as you seem to abide within her line and agenda. Your way of speaking follows the likes of psychologists who claim to know what is going through the mind of this very young adult who has admitted herself that she is confused and extremely disturbed about the constant media attention. You don't say, "I think" or "I believe" because you have turned subjective psychoanalysis into some sort of objective reality.

American law will not allow a lie detector test into evidence, the reason being that it has been significantly demonstrated that lie detector test accuracy is subject to many peripherals, such as whether or not a person is a sociopath, an individual who can make himself or herself believe that what they are claiming is the truth (to themself).

It's interesting that you claim that Misty may be a sociopath because if Misty is indeed a sociopath she would probably have "passed" the lie detector test because she would have been able to convince herself that she was innocent and truthful, even though guilty as a racoon with the evidence in her mouth.

You are giving way way too much credit to this young girl as a wise manipulator. Have you considered her age and her education? Have you considered that she is extremely confused, bugged, frightened, and unsure of what everyone expects from her?

Might "THAT" have some effect on a lie detector test?

Might the fact that she is being surrounded by media and nationally known personalities who seem to want blood?

Perhaps?

Why do you say i abide within NG's line and agenda?
If in fact it is true that Misty is greatly disturbed and confused by the constant attention to her by the media, then why does she seek out the media? Her lawyer advised her not to go on the Early Show, yet she did not heed his advice, and went anyway.
Even though the media is disturbing and confusing to her, she went to go be on National TV and get interviewed, despite her not liking the constant media attention.
Do you have the link to where she mentions that she is confused and greatly disturbed about the constant media attention? I take it that it's not regarding her and Ron's divorce, this is a seperate thing that Misty was qouted somewhere?
Why would Misty want to throw herself into an interview situation knowing that she won't tell the truth to some questions that will be asked, not to mention some, well a lot of the media has thrown her to the wolves. Why get closer? If she is disturbed by this, maybe it also fascinates her in some ways.
She didn't get away much from where she lived prior to Haleigh's case, she didn't have a normal familial upbrining at all.
She has streetsmarts. When in the company of different others, she seems to assimilate herself to them, thus her voice and demeanor, body language changes.

I never credited her at all for being a "wise manipulator". I do believe that she isn't as stupid as some people on here make it out to be.
I think that LE has a lot of information that they are not telling us, in order to secure their cases.

I take it you may be associating the words "wise manipulator" with "sociopath"? This case is a lot different than Silence of the Lambs.
Misty does show some signs of conduct disorder. She shows a lot of signs at that.

LDTs, they aren't admissable in court. It is interesting to see how Misty does on them, and her wanting to take them, how she feels about them, and what the results are. Especially the hypnosis video!

If she does think that she has everyone fooled, she is in for a rude awakening.
Mostly, people do not want blood out of Misty, they want to know the events of the night that led up to Haleigh's disappearance that Misty skirts every time she is questioned about it.

 

[MeoW333]

My thoughts on that view: She was definitely very fearful about how her husband would react to this. Would she not have felt "guilty" about the way she dealt with the situation? Have you ever seen how a young teen deals with a claim that they are guilty of making an error of decision by someone who they love and respect, and who is older?

Misty should have said this or that, you claim, in a panic situation where she obviously felt she made some bad decisions, and her hubby even demonstrated that when he came home from work and clearly jumped on her for being a poor guardian.

Y'all need to remember how old this girl is. Yeah, perhaps she screwed up as a guardian, but remember how old she is, please. She isn't a trained nurse.

And, as she seemed to imply in the hypnosis vid I posted above, she felt "guilty" because she failed as a guardian. Sounds reasonable to me.

It would be in the best interests for Misty, to get her into therapy asap.
Her family has disowned her, friends have abandoned her.
She claims she feels in danger, which is why the truth won't come out.
Yet she took the wrong path the whole length of this case thus far. She could have listened to her lawyer, she could have told the truth.
Why would she offer to take a polygraph again after she didn't do well on the first ones she took? Why would she offer hypnosis? Why of all things would she ask for a truth serum?

Until the girl is in an environment where whatever she fears will not get her, i don't think she will talk.

She could have just told the truth from the beginning, provided LE would put her in protective custody or offer her protection from those who would want to harm her.
It would be easier for her to tell the truth, than to have to keep making up lies about this case.
Parts of her stories she's told change, and her details change, and her finger pointing blame at others' changes targets.

There is a much easier way to go about this whole thing, and it would have started the moment she started telling the truth.
Perhaps the truth is too much for Misty herself to take..

 

[MeoW333]

Clearly you would be very welcome on NG's program as you seem to abide within her line and agenda. Your way of speaking follows the likes of psychologists who claim to know what is going through the mind of this very young adult who has admitted herself that she is confused and extremely disturbed about the constant media attention. You don't say, "I think" or "I believe" because you have turned subjective psychoanalysis into some sort of objective reality.

I would never go on any of NG's shows, never. She is rude to those that come on her show, families, doctors, lawyers. She cuts people off while they are speaking, i couldn't see how anyone would want to go on her show at all. I don't conform to NG's agendas at all, i don't know how you would come to that conclusion, as you don't know me from a whole in the wall.

What are you basing your claim that i have turned Subjective psychoanalysis into some type of objective reality on?

Please enlighten me and answer my question, as i have answered yours.

 

[debs]

Misty makes her own choices, directs her own path, lives in the situation she's created.

Misty can change it all by helping herself, like every other person in the world.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I don't know Misty from "adam" but it amazes me that y'all just don't get it. She loves her man, she's young, he now says he will divorce her because, IMO, he likes NG so he feels he needs to, otherwise Nancy will "divorce" him, and not allow him back on the program. and he wants the exposure for the sake of finding his daughter. Misty accepted the idea of divorce probably because the man layed this media perversion on her. Clearly, if you listen to both of them, they don't want to divorce. This is a circus.

Excuze me, but what exactly is it that 'we' (not sure who all you include in that..anyone that believes Misty is lying?) do not get? :waitasec: If you do not know Misty from "adam" then HOW do you know all of these things? It appears to me that you are speculating just as we are. Kinda like the pot/kettle/black thing, eh?

re: bbm~ I agree with you on this part...It has definitely turned into a circus and it is MY OPINION that Ron and Misty made the decision to turn it into one very early on, when they decided to publicly marry after Rons' "heart" had been missing for only a month. Clearly, you are right IMO, they don't want a divorce, just like the marriage, I believe the divorce is a sham too. Clearly, IMHO too, she is fooling a very few people...is it possible that you may be one of those few?

All of the above is just my opinion which I am entitled to just as much as the next person:thumb: btw~ although your original post was not directed at me, please let me be clear...I am a "me", not a "we", k?

 

[Pondering Mind]

I'd still like to know what her reasoning is for making that statement. Why would somebody on CS's side of the family take Haleigh, and what did they do with her? It really doesn't make sense when said at the same time that CS didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh. I wish she'd been asked "why". :waitasec: MOO

I think that she was putting out there what the Cummings family would like for people to believe panthera. You're right tho, she didn't even do a good job of lying about that, the statement didn't even make sense. Paraphrasing~ Someone from the other side of the family (Crystals) took HaLeigh, but not Crystal, someone else, because she wasn't close to HaLeigh...huh? To what end and for what purpose? She makes it sound like Crystal wouldn't want HaLeigh, but someone from her family took her anyway, but not Jr... Okie Dokie then :waitasec: Not to mention since she and Ron had been together for a total of what (?) 5 months when HaLeigh disappeared, how much could she really know about any relationship HaLeigh had with Crystal, other than what she was told. (by Ron no doubt ) Of course we know that Crystal was/does exercise her rights to visitation, (tho someone needs to clue Nancy Grace in on that!) so what was she even basing her comments on?

I don't know why I even try to make sense of anything she or Ron say, it does nothing but give me a headache!

 

[Flossie JMO]

I think that she was putting out there what the Cummings family would like for people to believe panthera. You're right tho, she didn't even do a good job of lying about that, the statement didn't even make sense. Paraphrasing~ Someone from the other side of the family (Crystals) took HaLeigh, but not Crystal, someone else, because she wasn't close to HaLeigh...huh? To what end and for what purpose? She makes it sound like Crystal wouldn't want HaLeigh, but someone from her family took her anyway, but not Jr... Okie Dokie then :waitasec: Not to mention since she and Ron had been together for a total of what (?) 5 months when HaLeigh disappeared, how much could she really know about any relationship HaLeigh had with Crystal, other than what she was told. (by Ron no doubt ) Of course we know that Crystal was/does exercise her rights to visitation, (tho someone needs to clue Nancy Grace in on that!) so what was she even basing her comments on?

I don't know why I even try to make sense of anything she or Ron say, it does nothing but give me a headache!

I thought it was interesting, she said pretty much what I have been thinking.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I thought it was interesting, she said pretty much what I have been thinking.

Yes, come to think of it I do remember you posting that.....BUT, I don't remember you ever posting any reasons why you felt that way. What have you, seen, heard, read, gathered, gleaned etc. to make you believe that someone fron Crystal's family (without her knowledge) abducted HaLeigh. And what do you believe has become of her? If you could answer that I would be very interested to know the thought process behind that Flossie, in all sincerity. TIA

 

[atherella]

Really? Referencing Misty Croslin-Cummings’ hypnosis session allow me to point out portions of her version of events that IMO are NOT clear or distinct, and are contradictory.


Who took Haleigh to school on 2/9?

8/09- Misty Croslin hypnosis session:

Then we took her to school and I walked to her into school, walked her all the way to her classroom

6/11/09-Art Harris Article:

Ronald was up all Sunday night waiting for Misty to come home. The sources say she never did, and he finally fell asleep—and overslept. Then had to rush and race to get Haleigh to school

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/...ils/#more-2186

Respectfully snipped.

Just wanted to point out that in a later article than the one you quoted -September 13th, 2009, Art Harris did point out that "his sources" said Misty returned on Sunday night. So, that really is not contradictory at all. If Misty returned Sunday night, she would have been available Monday morning to walk HaLeigh to the classroom as claimed:

BBM

You may recall two friends of Misty told me what sources close to the case tell me they also told investigators–that they’d been partying together with drugs and alcohol for three days until Misty came home Sunday from her alleged revenge fling with WBG, and made up briefly with Ronald Cummings.

Sources tell The Bald Truth Ron and Misty were up all night talking, trying to work things out, and Ronald overslept and had to race Haleigh to school Monday morning, Feb. 9, causing parents at the bus stop to make note, and relaying it to investigators who came to interview them later that he’d come very close to the kids and parents who rode the bus that morning.

Misty has said she walked Haleigh to her classroom, then they went home and slept for a couple of hours before Ronald had to get up and get ready for work; parents saw her later at the bus stop, and others have told police they saw Haleigh at the house, where she played with a young cousin who adored named Austin, son of Tommy and Lindsay Croslin. Misty fed them dinner, she has said, but apparently she and Ronald had yet to work out their differences.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-misty-cummings-shocks-parent-at-bus-stop/

Art's articles often change and get edited as he receives information. I often take things I read on his site with a grain of salt, knowing that may change at a later date.