Misty makes shocking claims on the Early Show 2009.10.9. -*video inlcuded*

[Flossie JMO]

Yes, come to think of it I do remember you posting that.....BUT, I don't remember you ever posting any reasons why you felt that way. What have you, seen, heard, read, gathered, gleaned etc. to make you believe that someone fron Crystal's family (without her knowledge) abducted HaLeigh. And what do you believe has become of her? If you could answer that I would be very interested to know the thought process behind that Flossie, in all sincerity. TIA

Hi there, I think I have posted it all in the theories thread. I believe HaLeigh is alive, and hidden with family and friends.

edited to add: theories topic: Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Pondering Mind]

Hi there, I think I have posted it all in the theories thread. I believe HaLeigh is alive, and hidden with family and friends.

edited to add: theories topic: Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Can you give me an idea what post # Flossie? I have searched for this before when other posters have asked, but have never sfound your theory, only your comments and agreements with other posters. I really would like to read it. TIA!

 

[Flossie JMO]

Can you give me an idea what post # Flossie? I have searched for this before when other posters have asked, but have never sfound your theory, only your comments and agreements with other posters. I really would like to read it. TIA!

LOL, I can look when I get home, I have no idea, I think that topic is like 30 pages long

 

[Concerned Papa]

Respectfully snipped.

Just wanted to point out that in a later article than the one you quoted -September 13th, 2009, Art Harris did point out that "his sources" said Misty returned on Sunday night. So, that really is not contradictory at all. If Misty returned Sunday night, she would have been available Monday morning to walk HaLeigh to the classroom as claimed:

BBM



http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-misty-cummings-shocks-parent-at-bus-stop/

Art's articles often change and get edited as he receives information. I often take things I read on his site with a grain of salt, knowing that may change at a later date.

I will respectfully point out that "his sources" did not confirm Misty taking Haleigh to school and the classroom, only that Ron and Misty were up all night talking, etc.:

Sources tell The Bald Truth Ron and Misty were up all night talking, trying to work things out, and Ronald overslept and had to race Haleigh to school Monday morning, Feb. 9, causing parents at the bus stop to make note,

It was Misty that said she walked Haleigh to her classroom, not "the sources":

Misty has said she walked Haleigh to her classroom,

The same article that you referenced also states:

Ronald overslept and had to race Haleigh to school Monday morning, Feb. 9, causing parents at the bus stop to make note, and relaying it to investigators who came to interview them later that he’d come very close to the kids and parents who rode the bus that morning.

The earlier article that I referenced similarly states:

And what might that have had to do with Ron Cummings driving like a bat out of hell Monday morning as he took Haleigh to her last day of school...Several parents tell me they saw Ronald driving so fast he nearly clipped a group of parents and children standing near the bus stop, then sped off.

Neither article mentions Misty or Junior's presence in the vehicle.

I'm sure that in the overall scheme of this case, this is not a overly important issue. As you pointed out, if Misty returned Sunday night, she would have been available Monday morning to walk HaLeigh to the classroom as claimed. However, since neither article mentions Misty or Junior being in the vehicle at the bus stop incident, she also would have been available to continue sleeping with Junior while Ron carried Haleigh to school.

 

[MeoW333]

Hi there, I think I have posted it all in the theories thread. I believe HaLeigh is alive, and hidden with family and friends.

edited to add: theories topic: Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thank you for this link, FlossieJMO, i didn't know that section even existed!
I can only find it by clicking the link though, does anyone know how i can get to it from the main menu of Websleuths?
Thank you in advance

 

[Flossie JMO]

Can you give me an idea what post # Flossie? I have searched for this before when other posters have asked, but have never sfound your theory, only your comments and agreements with other posters. I really would like to read it. TIA!

sorry wrong link, this one Theories on what happened to Haleigh #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Pondering Mind]

Thank you for this link, FlossieJMO, i didn't know that section even existed!
I can only find it by clicking the link though, does anyone know how i can get to it from the main menu of Websleuths?
Thank you in advance

I was gonna bump it for ya MeoW, but I see that you found it! There is alot of interesting info back in the early threads. Flossie is right, there are 15 bazillion theory threads. (alright, maybe not that many..but lots..hence the reason I can't find her posts :crazy All you have to do to bring one to the front if it's something you would like to discuss is to post on it and Wa-La it's there! (unless it's one that's closed and locked of course) You may have already known that, but that's one thing that took me FOREVER to figure out!

 

[mayelf]

I have to honestly say that I need to go against the grain with the majority of you.

Misty may or MAY NOT, have anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh.

I do believe she has a reasonable claim against the mother's family, and the mother. I think if we keep tunnel vision on Misty in this case we wont find the answers.

If we widen our horizons and think a little about the claim maybe we can figure out more to the puzzle, and maybe not. But I do think if the answers were with Misty they would have been out already. There is no solid evidence against Misty in this case. There may be evidence against other individuals if we look into it. I just think that it would be important to remember that real life doesn't work like we see on television. People do display emotions different then it is televised and different from other people. I think if Misty's story has slight variances it could also be because she was in agony of losing this precious child. From every person who has witnessed the relationship between the kids and Misty it does sound like she likes the kids. I don't see any motive here. It's probably why a lot of people are thinking about neglect, but I just don't see it. In my opinion, we would have heard something already if it was just a case of neglect.

And the lie detector tests (the polygraphs) don't really prove anything. If you google accuracy about a polygraph test you will come to realize how invaluable they are.

So why not just look into other leads?

Haleigh's biological mother obviously did not care one cent about her children before Haleigh went missing. She is thousands of dollars behind in child support. I'm just wondering have we made a topic to discuss possible other leads in this case and follow up on the mother lead? There is tons of information about her on the internet. Even just seeing her myspace page before she changed it...

Here's a place to start investigating --
http://***************.com/WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY.htm

If I was the type of person to point fingers, Misty would be the last place I would be pointing. The other leads are just more of a "wow" factor. But I think it is just critical the media lay off Misty and stop giving the public tunnel vision. It's gruesome if we are destroying a young lady's life that already looks pretty torn up. I just wish I would see more theory's being gone over and discussed.

 

[debs]

IMO, Mayelf, Misty's statements regarding Crystal has everything to do with a jealousy toward Crystal and has no bearing in any culpability of Crystal or her family in the disappearance of Haleigh. I believe you are right to look at the focus of the feelings Misty has toward Crystal. I believe it is a deep-seated hatred for any competition for Ronald's affections and a feeling of never being able to quite measure up, whether internal, or from overt comments from Ronald to feed Misty's jealousy and buy her loyalty through emotional manipulation.

I further think that any games played in this way were totally absent any participation on Crystal's or her family's part. I believe this was a control game played between Ronald and Misty.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Tricia]

Remember, the police have said Misty is not telling all she knows.
This more than likely means the police are holding back vital pieces of evidence that we don't know about. My guess is if we did know the evidence we would agree with the police.

Then again, perhaps the police don't really have anything else and so by announcing Misty is lying they put so much pressure on her they hope she folds and tells what she knows.

I tend to lean heavily toward the first option.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

What keeps getting me so stumped about this whole case and Misty is this:

Dang it, if ever I've seen the public, LE and family crucify, torment, punish, accuse, use every tool available against a suspect, it has been played and used on Misty.

We have 4 different LE agencies working this case. Private eyes, search and rescue missionaries, families, friends, the public, media and no one can break Misty. No one has come forward with anything contradicting what Misty has claimed happened that night or contradicted anything since the disappearance of Haleigh.

How can this young, very young, un-educated, possible mental deficit girl who had absolutely no motive, shows no temperment when must any of us would have blown a gasket by now, fool LE's finest? How can this be? Not one person, even a stranger, has ever testified to her being anything but nice, overly Motherly and caring for these two children all of a sudden plot, plan and get rid of Haleigh for her to never be found again. With no use of a telephone, cell phone, vehicle or accomplice? How without a trace?

 

[kiki the parrot]

Misty's own brother has refuted her claims that she was home on the night in question. And nobody's testified to anything--but neither am I honestly sure who would have actually been privy to exactly how Misty treated these or other children behind closed doors much less shared those impressions w us But here's "one person" (a bystander, ie a parent "lucky" enough to be at the bus stop that day to get an eye- and an earful) whose own impressions of MC are something other than uh nice, overly motherly and caring... Maybe we need to stop accepting out of hand the glowing descriptions fed us by those interested parties... and begin instead considering the feedback from those w nothing to gain--or lose. Just a thought. JMO

http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-misty-cummings-shocks-parent-at-bus-stop/

arrot:

 

[KOOL LOOK]

The problems for me about the two bus stop eye witnesses:

Husband and wife have two different stories to tell about the same incident
the wife's accounting that Misty picked the kids up, on that day February 9th in question, when it's confirmed by LE Ron picked them up
it's way out of bounds and too too too sensational on behalf of this woman. If it were really true, surely this woman would have called 911, got out her vehicle, reported the incident to school officials, walked over to the vehicle and made an inquiry, something, but nothing until she was having her time in front of a camera. No corroborating eye witnesses, and yet every bus line pick up, bus stop I see is packed with others doing the same. Everyone is pulled up, bumper to bumper and you can see and hear at least within two vehicles of your own. Not to mention,we have absolutely no other corroborating evidence Misty even speaks like this by nature.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Yes because we all know every witness to every single example of poor parenting reports to LE promptly. What time in front of camera? We are awfully quick to discount and discredit every single witness--however random, disinterested, and reputable (even TM now)--w anything unflattering to say. It isn't that not one person has stepped forward w a single contradictory, conflicting statement, or that not one uncomplimentary report has emerged lol. It's that there are those will find some objection to any and every unfavorable report and reject out of hand as we have just seen again. JMO

arrot:

 

[Granna6]

Tricia,
I agree. We can only guess what evidence the police have tucked away that we are totally unaware of. To me, chief among Misty's inconsistencies would be her assertion that she washed clothes, when it was later revealed there was no detergent in the house. Who washes urine-soaked blankets with no detergent? I would at least use a few drops of Dawn or something as a substitute. Forensics would tell if a washer had indeed been recently used. And surely they examined plumbing, vents, etc. for all types of evidence. I can tell if the washer has recently been used in my own house without forensics. It's pretty obvious, just as it is if a bathtub has been. Maybe those types of illogical inconsistencies have piled up.

 

[MeoW333]

LE said in an article somewhere that Misty's lies don't match their forensic evidence that they have.

 

[MeoW333]

"Investigators have said Croslin-Cummings is the key to the case and that her version of events the night the girl disappeared doesn't add up.
"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said."
http://www.gainesville.com/article/...-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

"Greenwood wouldn't talk about what forensic evidence has been gathered in the investigation except to say that the evidence is with FDLE."

 

[PorcineGranny]

What keeps getting me so stumped about this whole case and Misty is this:

Dang it, if ever I've seen the public, LE and family crucify, torment, punish, accuse, use every tool available against a suspect, it has been played and used on Misty.

We have 4 different LE agencies working this case. Private eyes, search and rescue missionaries, families, friends, the public, media and no one can break Misty. No one has come forward with anything contradicting what Misty has claimed happened that night or contradicted anything since the disappearance of Haleigh.

How can this young, very young, un-educated, possible mental deficit girl who had absolutely no motive, shows no temperment when must any of us would have blown a gasket by now, fool LE's finest? How can this be? Not one person, even a stranger, has ever testified to her being anything but nice, overly Motherly and caring for these two children all of a sudden plot, plan and get rid of Haleigh for her to never be found again. With no use of a telephone, cell phone, vehicle or accomplice? How without a trace?

Kool, just for your personal knowledge, uneducated does not mean mental deficit. Learning disabilites does not mean mental deficit. I get the impression that although uneducated Misty is average in mental ability for her age, although immature. Her learning differences would not mean she could not learn.

I don't think she has anyone fooled and I don't think she is being wrongly accused because she hasn't told the truth. She has to know who took Haleigh, why she won't tell is the mystery. JMO

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Kool, just for your personal knowledge, uneducated does not mean mental deficit. Learning disabilites does not mean mental deficit. I get the impression that although uneducated Misty is average in mental ability for her age, although immature. Her learning differences would not mean she could not learn.

I don't think she has anyone fooled and I don't think she is being wrongly accused because she hasn't told the truth. She has to know who took Haleigh, why she won't tell is the mystery. JMO

For your information, I know what my personal knowledge is or isn't. And I haven't combined or united neither deficit, disorder or disability to be one and the same. All the other is your opinion, as my posts are mine.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I'm not so surprised that Misty is, in general, sticking to her story (in its conflicting parts). And she hasn't fooled anyone. The police have publicly said that her stories are conflicting and she hasn't told all that she knowsas the above quote states, "her accounts and the physical evidence don't add up." No one can force her to tell the truth. Legally, she can't be made to incriminate herself, if she's done something illegal or negligent. All she has to do is refuse to talk.