Misty Robbed at Apartment Complex

[bisaillon]

There would also be a huge difference if the Heene family really thought their child was gone-

If this doesn't send up obvious red flag to the Investigators.....-:banghead:

Don't bang your head too hard now...:crosseyed:

 

[Melanie]

3 guys on one female is darn big.

Hypothetical question:

If you were robbed tonight by 3 men, and LE asked you what they looked like, what skin color, you would reply, "I don't think the color of the people really should have anything to do with this".?

It's very important for identification purposes, prosecution and locating them. It' very pertinent, and I was only stating the facts and using them truthfully in my post. If I would have stated three white guys, I would have been corrected as having posted incorrectly. Don't pull me into any race issues. The three men were black, as reported, and I think it does have something to do with it factually.

I do think it's very relevant in trying to catch a thief. Black, white, red or green. My thief was so fast, I knew he was of some type of asian ethnicity - but couldn't bank on it. It turned out he was filipino, but I first said he was hispanic (as I only saw the back of him - darker colored skin, black hair). The only way I found out is when I saw the tape on playback.

so yah, I think it's very relevant, and has nothing to do with bringing in the race card.

Mel

 

[azwriter]

What difference would that make? It would be easier to get a new ID. I also wonder why the one girl stayed there? That part also makes no sense what so ever, unless she was part of the set-up.

Thanks Debs, for telling me your theory, great stuff to think on!

I can only speak from experience about replacing ID, but having a police report does help. I don't know about the state of Florida, but when my purse was taken from my car trunk, the cop investigation the report, gave me a document stating my driver's license was stolen. This came in handy when I went to get a new license. In fact, I was able to get the replacement that day instead of waiting for five working days which was required for a duplicate license.
Just saying.

 

[chemcopout]

The 911 Call Feb 10 was a ruse- it was a staged event-hoax
What happened to Misty Monday was unplanned and thats how she acts when there really is an emergency-

i'm really glad we have this second 911 call to compare the difference!
you'd think misty would show more emotion reporting haleigh missing but no..

 

[panthera]

I have to say that up until hearing this call I felt sorry for Misty ….
She is so much more upset on this call compared to the 911 the night Haleigh
went missing!
I gave her the benefit thinking that maybe she was in shock and that is why
she didn’t seem upset or know all the info that was being asked but then on
this call she seems soooo upset and seems to remember all the details of the event!
I also though it was weird that she said the man was dressed in black!

I wonder if over time the details she gave regarding this incident will change as her account of when Haleigh went missing did? MOO

 

[annkitty0630]

Misty is making choices. She is quite resourceful. She managed to figure out where to go to get drugs. I sure don't know where to go in MY town. If Misty had money for drugs, she had money for a few nights in the motel-6 (don't know if there is one) until that RO was dropped.

Excusing this behavior is simply irresponsible.

Thank You debs, I am sure on the same wave length as you. I am so confused by the choices this girl makes and they get worse every day!!! I really can no longer defend her as she move through this path of complete destruction. IMO, and my opinion only mind all of you, it is either Guilt driving her down this path of destruction or absolute naivte/stupidity for marrying Ron Cummings and so on and so forth. There is a truth in this story/saga and PLEASE Misty let it be heard for the sake of the BEAUTIFUL baby Haleigh!! Thanks for letting me vent guys!!! Ann:twocents::twocents::croc:

 

[azwriter]

You really nailed it. To some people drugs are just an everyday part of life and they see it as normal. There are alot of crimes reported to LE in this area, such as; Prostitute who gets stiffed and calls LE, drug buyers calling LE when someone takes their money and just runs, you read it all the time on the Police Blot in the paper..................nothing new or unusual anymore.

Ditto on your post, lonetraveler.
However:
In Misty's world - in a three week period, this 17-year-old has had a gun pulled on her twice. I would not consider this a normal circumstance for a teenager.

 

[azwriter]

I wish we knew exactly what drugs were being sought in the 'buy'. MOO

I would guess they were "illegal" drugs. :doh:

 

[azwriter]

You know,I am probably going to take alot of flack for saying this..but hearing this ticked me off. She sounds FRANTIC.....not like whiney like she did on the 911 call she made the night Haliegh went missing. She even knows the address...she barely knew the one she LIVED at with Haliegh.grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

No flack, bisaillon. Just my head nodding in agreement.
Misty sounded genuinely scared and upset to me in this 911 call compared to her previous call the night Haleigh was reported missing. jmo

 

[debs]

No flack, bisaillon. Just my head nodding in agreement.
Misty sounded genuinely scared and upset to me in this 911 call compared to her previous call the night Haleigh was reported missing. jmo

Well, this time Misty had lost everything that was important to her.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Well, this time Misty had lost everything that was important to her.

That's what I said too debs. If anyone ever had any doubt, these 2 calls should put that to rest. It's a shame that she wasn't able to muster up some real emotion like this back in February for HaLeigh. But, you gotta realize this was prolly all her money and drugs that was 'stoled' from her, then it was just HaLeigh..poor baby girl. Not to mention of course this was REAL fear. jmho

 

[debs]

That's what I said too debs. If anyone ever had any doubt, these 2 calls should put that to rest. It's a shame that she wasn't able to muster up some real emotion like this back in February for HaLeigh. But, you gotta realize this was prolly all her money and drugs that was 'stoled' from her, then it was just HaLeigh..poor baby girl. Not to mention of course this was REAL fear. jmho

Now, PM...be fair. Her arm was hurt, too. She even said she probably needed an ambulance!

I hope she realizes that she's billed for the ambulance ride. Since she's an emancipated adult, that will be all on her, too.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Now, PM...be fair. Her arm was hurt, too. She even said she probably needed an ambulance!

I hope she realizes that she's billed for the ambulance ride. Since she's an emancipated adult, that will be all on her, too.

Oh but debs, I try, I really do. :innocent: The only problem is that I listen to her crying about her arm and leg hurting 'really bad' and all I can think about is...was HaLeigh crying, hurting really bad?

 

[Normcar21]

i'm really glad we have this second 911 call to compare the difference!
you'd think misty would show more emotion reporting haleigh missing but no..

I haven't been following this thread lately but decided to check out the 911 call posted initially by Misty. Here's how it began:

Misty Croslin: "Hi...umm...I just woke up...and our backdoor was wide open and I think...and I can't find our daughter"

911: "you can't find what?"

Misty Croslin:"our daughter"

She was still half asleep in the initial call relative to Haleigh and she had not been physically accosted.

In the 911 call where she herself was physically accosted when wide awake may explain some of the difference in noted "emotion" response.

However...I do agree that even if she was half asleep in the initial call, she had some time to wake up and comprehend the tragedy that Haleigh was gone from the home. So, I agree that her expression should have been quite animated. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the actual "voice" recording of that initial 911 call and would appreciate a link if anyone can provide that.

As it stands, the circumstances and time could possibly explain the "emotive" difference in the calls, with a big "but" considering that in the first call, even if half asleep, surely the disappearance of the child would have sent a bit of wake up adrenaline through her system.

Coming down from some drug could well explain that lack of adrenaline in the Haleigh 991 call. That would explain that even after noting the door and going through the house that she was still a bit less than animated. It would "not" necessarily assume culpability in the disappearance itself, but it "would" IMO suggest a possible consideration relative to the less than animated 911 response.

 

[6angels]

I would be upset if big black guys accosted me and stole my purse. Just putting their hands on me would have me a nervous wreck. I haven't listened to the 911 call, but I don't know a woman who would take that happening calmly.

She was more upset over being robbed then Heleigh being missing. WTH listen to the call.. THIS Call she was UPSET........ The heleigh Call was acting IMO. WOW what a differences in calls........

 

[Pondering Mind]

Here ya go Normcar~

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79668&page=2 post 29 of AngelWhoCares

If there was a little difference, maybe...but not even close imo.
Also, IF one is SO sure that someone came into their house and abducted their child, that would tend to wake you up real quick AND for all she knew someone was still in the MH and she would have been in danger of being accosted or worse. Yet, she and Jr stayed there? Makes 0 sense to me.

 

[6angels]

Wait for it.............. wait for it............. wait for it.... If someone ask Misty why she sounded so different she'll say.. I was in shock when Heleigh went missing OR I was so sleepy! I would of been crying so hard noone would of been able to understand me if my child or ANY child went missing in my care.

 

[debs]

Wait for it.............. wait for it............. wait for it.... If someone ask Misty why she sounded so different she'll say.. I was in shock when Heleigh went missing OR I was so sleepy! I would of been crying so hard noone would of been able to understand me if my child or ANY child went missing in my care.

.......and I'll say hooey.

 

[Normcar21]

Here ya go Normcar~

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79668&page=2 post 29 of AngelWhoCares

If there was a little difference, maybe...but not even close imo.
Also, IF one is SO sure that someone came into their house and abducted their child, that would tend to wake you up real quick AND for all she knew someone was still in the MH and she would have been in danger of being accosted or worse. Yet, she and Jr stayed there? Makes 0 sense to me.

Thanks for the link. By the way, if you read my post without prejudice you will see that I am looking for ideas and evidence, not making subjective opinions and slamming someone. As you say, if someone, clear minded and like yourself, woke up to this tragedy they would surely react with more force in the 911 call. As I stated in my post, "if" said person had been taking drugs that evening they would be much less responsive and such a physical condition "could" explain the lack of animation perceived in the initial 911 call.

I am looking for evidence, and considering all ideas and concepts. Simply "slamming" the two calls as clear objective evidence that she was lieing in the first, and being truthful in the second, without considering all angles, possibilities, and potentials, is like a crowd at a bullfight, the noise is so ridiculously animated, confusing, and high, that nothing can be resolved, but its a whole lotta fun pointing fingers and the one who shouts loudest wins.

No offense, its simply my opinion of what I'm seeing. :angel:

I am in no way a defender of Misty, I'm just trying to hold back on a judgement until I am firmly assured that I have checked out all possibilities, both subjective (family, pressure, age, etc.) and objective considerations (what apparently happened on the evening of disappearance, times, eye witness accounts, etc.)

Wild claims for or against I am attempting to avoid.

 

[chemcopout]

I haven't been following this thread lately but decided to check out the 911 call posted initially by Misty. Here's how it began:

Misty Croslin: "Hi...umm...I just woke up...and our backdoor was wide open and I think...and I can't find our daughter"

911: "you can't find what?"

Misty Croslin:"our daughter"

She was still half asleep in the initial call relative to Haleigh and she had not been physically accosted.

In the 911 call where she herself was physically accosted when wide awake may explain some of the difference in noted "emotion" response.

However...I do agree that even if she was half asleep in the initial call, she had some time to wake up and comprehend the tragedy that Haleigh was gone from the home. So, I agree that her expression should have been quite animated. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the actual "voice" recording of that initial 911 call and would appreciate a link if anyone can provide that.

As it stands, the circumstances and time could possibly explain the "emotive" difference in the calls, with a big "but" considering that in the first call, even if half asleep, surely the disappearance of the child would have sent a bit of wake up adrenaline through her system.

Coming down from some drug could well explain that lack of adrenaline in the Haleigh 991 call. That would explain that even after noting the door and going through the house that she was still a bit less than animated. It would "not" necessarily assume culpability in the disappearance itself, but it "would" IMO suggest a possible consideration relative to the less than animated 911 response.

there's no way i would be "half asleep" if a child went missing. i'd wake up right quick. misty would have also. there's no excuse. natural adrenaline kicks in to wake someone up. maybe misty was dulled from drugs.
we sure see where her priorities lie with that latest 911 call!
heres the link to the first 911 call, norm

YouTube - HALEIGH CUMMINGS 911 CALL - CFLNewschat.com