Misty's New Interview

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I will never see her as uninvolved in what happened to Haleigh. That girl lies like most of us breath. Almost all the players involved in this case do. Having no small amount of experience with friends and family members who have resided in trailers, there is no way things happened that night as she says. It is MOO, it has been MOO and will always be MOO. Either she wasn't there or she didn't sleep through any abduction.
 
It appears that Misty has finally cleared her head of drugs, but not of the relative ease with which she continues to lie through her teeth. I find nothing credible about Misty in this new video. Noticeably, she doesn't seek to blame Ron for HaLeigh's disappearance. We've heard this particular Croslin theory before. Misty's back to laying the seeds for drug-dealers stealthily scooping H out of the trailer as she slept that night.

This case boils down to an uncooperative family-the Croslin Family, and how every one of the Croslin siblings (and their wives) will do and say whatever is necessary to protect the 2 Croslins who were present the night HaLeigh was murdered by one or both of them. Chelsea and/or Timmy were involved in the cover-up that night (van), but Tommy---and Misty as either a major player or complicit in H's murder and coverup are responsible for the homicide.

As another poster noted, there are likely several elements of truth in the tale Tommy instructed Misty to tell re the van, implied sexual assault, brick and yellow rope, and river. Tommy places himself at the trailer door, van and at the river with HaLeigh. He was out of his mind on drugs that evening, and committed the homicide alone or with help.

If Ron were responsible, one, two or all of the Croslins would have given him up ages ago. Sure, Ron was a druggie, a dealer, an abuser and possessed guns, but he didn't murder his daughter either accidentally or deliberately. No drug dealer, gang member, etc. took HaLeigh because of money Ron owed. And Misty and the Croslin siblings took full advantage of Ron's history in the explanation Misty likely provided Ron when he returned home.

Misty cannot tell the truth because she would rather be in prison for 25 long years on drug charges, than to be labelled a child murderer, or found complicit with her brother Tommy in the murder and coverup. The original crime was sexual in nature, and therefore, Misty and Tommy will do anything to not take responsibility for it.

All, IMO.


No, Misty has never blamed herself or realized how abusive it is to do any drugs around children. She wasn't all that afraid of him or she'd never have gone back after pulling the fake pregnancy test and cheating with WBG and whoever was making the couch bounce in Ron's own home. She's using all the info that has come out about Ron to probably keep other women in prison from beating her. Misty herself set up a sexual motive by telling everyone that Joe "messed with" her when they were both children and Tommy when he would have been a teen and she still a child. Until something else is proven I'll believe that she or Tommy "found" Hayleigh around the trail by the water after being taken from her home and attacked, then the others got there in a vehicle and took the body away. Either that or misty got rid of the Ron's child due to jealousy and wanting her own baby with him.
 
I may have missed some, but viewing Ger's photos up top I found three bars....

Hideaway - Lake Como
Log Cabin Bar - Welaka
Spurs - Palatka

Which one was Misty talking about? Anybody know?

Ask the scanner peeps. They would know. I'll bet it's the Hideaway, but not sure.
 
I may have missed some, but viewing Ger's photos up top I found three bars....

Hideaway - Lake Como
Log Cabin Bar - Welaka
Spurs - Palatka

Which one was Misty talking about? Anybody know?

None of the above, I answered this earlier in the thread, top of page 2.
 
I will never see her as uninvolved in what happened to Haleigh. That girl lies like most of us breath. Almost all the players involved in this case do. Having no small amount of experience with friends and family members who have resided in trailers, there is no way things happened that night as she says. It is MOO, it has been MOO and will always be MOO. Either she wasn't there or she didn't sleep through any abduction.

I vote for.............drum roll here.......................she wasn't there. Not until early morning.
 
Right now would be a good time for LE to give up some of that "mountain" of evidence so that the public can offer any valuable information to confirm or disqualify some of the player's statements. Also, because WE NEED TO KNOW, dang it. It would be a really simple act to at least release the phone records for the Croslins and the Cummings. Maybe if Misty or Ronald were confronted with evidence that their stories are totally hogwash, they would grow a conscience and tell the blame truth. I also want to know the simple answer as to who picked up Haleigh at the bus stop, and how she got to school that morning. And while they are at it, when did Misty really go back to the MH after she and Ron split the sheets? And where was Teresa Neves that day and evening? And when did Ronald show up at work, how many hours can PDM account for him actually being there? You know, just simple little questions that deserve answers.......................right now..........:crazy:
 
It appears that Misty has finally cleared her head of drugs, but not of the relative ease with which she continues to lie through her teeth. I find nothing credible about Misty in this new video. Noticeably, she doesn't seek to blame Ron for HaLeigh's disappearance. We've heard this particular Croslin theory before. Misty's back to laying the seeds for drug-dealers stealthily scooping H out of the trailer as she slept that night.

This case boils down to an uncooperative family-the Croslin Family, and how every one of the Croslin siblings (and their wives) will do and say whatever is necessary to protect the 2 Croslins who were present the night HaLeigh was murdered by one or both of them. Chelsea and/or Timmy were involved in the cover-up that night (van), but Tommy---and Misty as either a major player or complicit in H's murder and coverup are responsible for the homicide.

As another poster noted, there are likely several elements of truth in the tale Tommy instructed Misty to tell re the van, implied sexual assault, brick and yellow rope, and river. Tommy places himself at the trailer door, van and at the river with HaLeigh. He was out of his mind on drugs that evening, and committed the homicide alone or with help.

If Ron were responsible, one, two or all of the Croslins would have given him up ages ago. Sure, Ron was a druggie, a dealer, an abuser and possessed guns, but he didn't murder his daughter either accidentally or deliberately. No drug dealer, gang member, etc. took HaLeigh because of money Ron owed. And Misty and the Croslin siblings took full advantage of Ron's history in the explanation Misty likely provided Ron when he returned home.

Misty cannot tell the truth because she would rather be in prison for 25 long years on drug charges, than to be labelled a child murderer, or found complicit with her brother Tommy in the murder and coverup. The original crime was sexual in nature, and therefore, Misty and Tommy will do anything to not take responsibility for it.

All, IMO.

I wanted to first say, Excellent post, epiphany! Your words above are alot of what I personally feel to be case{you just have a much better way with your words than I..so thanks for this well-thought out, understandable post above}.


First above Bolded in Red By me..ITA this is not our first go-around with this particular "story"..IMO it seems as tho this is Misty's "in between" go-to story..meaning that in-between giving versions of what happened that night that very much include family members..she has throughout these last 2+yrs gone back to this "story" intermittedly between the "family stories"..The basics stay the same.. Ron dealt drugs before she came along[or so she was told..lol..as if he wasn't dealing drugs while she was with him]..Ron got on the bad side[the chit list]of some big time dealers owing them money..and the end result was their taking Haleigh..So IMO nothing new there..


The next two sentences Both Bolded in Black By Me are the entire jist of it all..Meaning those two sentences are the reasons why Tommy and Misty cannot and will not ever be able to actually come clean about what really happened that night..They cannot do so WITHOUT IMPLICATING THEMSELVES IN THE MURDER.. Misty has attempted to do so[meaning she's attempted to tell just of Tommy's involvement]..laying all blame on him and leaving her involvement out..but the reason that cannot and will not "fly" and why she cannot pass a LDT about this version is because she too is very much involved in key elements of the murder and/or disposal..therefor it is only when she comes clean with her portion of involvement that she will be able to pass a LDT..

And then with Tommy placing himself at the trailer most importantly but furthermore placing himself at key places such as the disposal/murder[according to one version]..well..there is simply only one reason in this entire universe that a person would ever willingly..voluntarily place himself somewhere such as this..he is 100% involved



And then last sentence Bolded in Bright Red is absolutely dead-on IMO

Over the course of this case..especially within these past 12mos specifically I have on several occassions posted about my belief of why we have not gotten to the truth and how that we may never get to it becasue the two key players involved are Misty and Tommy and as has already been attempted[by Misty herself]one cannot implicate and place blame on the other with the necessary proof needed in order for it to be pursued[as in passing a poly on what she claims to be the events of that night]..she has failed in doing so..and that is because one cannot implicate the other without directly implicating themselves..and until we see one of them decide to do so[at which time its my belief that if then polyed that with the inclusion of their own personal involvement in the crimes against Haleigh that they would pass the LDT]..which would equal forward movement toward justice for Haleigh!!

Sadly I believe that will only happen with a death bed confession..and in my previous posts I have detailed that they would have to be 100% positive that were indeed about to die in the very extreme near future in order for them to even think of having such type of a confession as to their involvement..

For the time being they are two siblings serving out what to some seem like too heavy of drug sentences[so actually receiving pity from some as if they were somehow wrongly OVER-sentenced JUST BECAUSE OF THE MISFORTUNE OF BEING "LOOSELY" TIED TO A LITTLE GIRL THAT'S MISSING!!<- Hogwash, I say!! They are the reason she is MISSING!!

But back to their just being lowly drug sentence servers..that have a big, bright light at the end of their tunnel[that's getting brighter with each passing day of their drug sentence].. They can easily "deal with" the dark, dingy jailhouse surroundings knowing that the light is getting brighter and closer to their one day walking free, again...

So, what happens when one of them decides to grow a conscience and tell the truth of the events that happened that night roughly between 9pm of February 9, 2009 and 3am of February 10, 2009?? The big, bright light is suddenly and permanently GONE FOREVER!!!!!!

THE LIGHT OF THEIR ONE DAY BEING FREE TO WALK THE SIDEWALKS, EAT CHEESEBURGERS FROM MICKEY D'S, AND SMOKE THE CHIT OUTTA MARLBORO REDS IS SNUFFED OUT PERMANENTLY AND THEY ARE LEFT TO LIVE OUT THEIR ENTIRE HUMAN LIVES HERE ON THIS EARTH IN THAT DARK, DINGY HELL HOLE OF A JAILHOUSE..NO MORE TO EVEN HAVE THE FEW THAT PITIED THEM FOR THEIR OVER-SENTENCING ON DRUG CHARGES..THAT TOO IS REPLACED WITH THE LABEL OF CHILD MURDERER[with which I would think would come with many that would have the least bit amount of pity for them, then]..

So, you see they have absolutely NOTHING TO GAIN..ZERO!!!But yet they infact HAVE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING TO LOSE..AND I DO MEAN EVERYTHING!!

This is why we will not see either of them tell the truth of what really happened.the whole truth including their personal involvement..what would they possibly have to gain from it??..and it is definitely MOO that these two ain't about to do anything just for "the good of it"..the only way would be for their own personal gain..and here we have absolutely zero that either could gain from it...only lose..

Sorry to have been so lohg winded..I just feel strongly that these two are the key players of the events that happened to this precious, innocent child that here, 2+ years later it seems as tho no one is even one step closer to finding..tragic beyond words..
 
Growing up as they did, the Croslin siblings would do anything to protect each other. They were all each had. The bond is very strong. There is no reason for brother Tommy to concoct and put out the filthy stories he eventually told about the night H disappeared. I still lean towards Tommy as most responsible, or Tommy with Misty's complicity to cover up something H may have witnessed. I believe the crime stems from something sexual in nature, and therefore, the Croslins will continue to deny, deny and deny.

Just brainstorming (along with everyone else) but replace Tommy with Timmy & ITA!

ETA: I still believe everything Misty & Tommy *admitted to* was to make up a story to go along with what they thought LE wanted to hear. Obviously, even LE knows better. This begs the question: WHY? Why no indictments in this case if they're so sure Misty is the key? IMO, they don't know spit and they're all corrupt.
 
forgive me, but my hinky meter didn't even flinch. I believe her.

MOO

Mel
 
I wonder if she will do any other interviews. This one imo just makes her look like she's lying even more. I also think Lisa and Hank Sr and others knew about a relationship between Tommy and Misty, but they kept it from Lindsy and Ron. I think Lindsy has always suspected but not known for sure, and probably didn't want to know, hence her comments on the jail tape, about Tommy and Misty. JMO
 
Neither Misty nor Ron has ever addressed the DNA that LE said they found in the home.
LE said in an official statement that they tested several people and did not find a match. They went on to say that either Ron or Misty must know whose DNA it was. IMO that means the DNA was in a place not likely left by a casual visit or quick invasion - like one of the beds. IMO this is why LE has held that Misty is the key - male DNA in the bed not belonging to Ron.

I think its very strange that none of them has ever said a word about it. Even now, Misty doesn't say anything about LE believing someone was there because of DNA. JMO
 
Hence why i needed to print that out......i was talking about that specific article, no others, as that was the ONLY station reporting it that way, and that is what stood out to me.


I know what Ron said....but Ron also said he doesn't use drugs(Rap sheet shows differently), and has never been in the drug trade (yet here he sits in prison for many years from trafficking drugs)..... believe what you want.....Ron is a Liar too, JMO.

here is the link on the geraldo interview, where Ron states the above mentioned....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzEDdhRT00o

Don't need the link, thanks.
I never indicated Ron was not a drug user, drug trafficker or a liar.

I'm saying he didn't harm, hide, cover-up or abduct his daughter.
That is my opinion formed by the direction LE has gone and their own words.
When and if Ron's status in HaLeigh's disappearance is ever officially changed, I will gladly look in his direction.
So far LE has not.
So far LE has indicated this is a Croslin and possibly Overstreet crime.

Because some don't like the way he walks, talks, sits, smiles, moves, cries, looks and dresses will not sway my opinion because these things seem based on frivolous, mean spirited conceptions about the man.
I'm simply not that type person.
 
Growing up as they did, the Croslin siblings would do anything to protect each other. They were all each had. The bond is very strong. There is no reason for brother Tommy to concoct and put out the filthy stories he eventually told about the night H disappeared. I still lean towards Tommy as most responsible, or Tommy with Misty's complicity to cover up something H may have witnessed. I believe the crime stems from something sexual in nature, and therefore, the Croslins will continue to deny, deny and deny.

Tommy is the only named suspect. So far.
 
Neither Misty nor Ron has ever addressed the DNA that LE said they found in the home.
LE said in an official statement that they tested several people and did not find a match. They went on to say that either Ron or Misty must know whose DNA it was. IMO that means the DNA was in a place not likely left by a casual visit or quick invasion - like one of the beds. IMO this is why LE has held that Misty is the key - male DNA in the bed not belonging to Ron.

I think its very strange that none of them has ever said a word about it. Even now, Misty doesn't say anything about LE believing someone was there because of DNA. JMO

Having a hard time with links, I could be wrong, but looks like PCSO has removed their news releases prior to 2011?

"DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.

FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to

FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be." .... "At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case."

I wonder if Tommy had DNA taken? DNA could have been from Misty's clothing imo.
 
Yes, because the words of a child really hold a lot of weight. Even if Tommy and Misty were in the intimate throws of passion, Ron probably wouldn't of even cared. jmo

It's comments like this that prevent me from taking the accusations made about how Ron 'must' be involved seriously. :twocents:
 
Neither Misty nor Ron has ever addressed the DNA that LE said they found in the home.
LE said in an official statement that they tested several people and did not find a match. They went on to say that either Ron or Misty must know whose DNA it was. IMO that means the DNA was in a place not likely left by a casual visit or quick invasion - like one of the beds. IMO this is why LE has held that Misty is the key - male DNA in the bed not belonging to Ron.

I think its very strange that none of them has ever said a word about it. Even now, Misty doesn't say anything about LE believing someone was there because of DNA. JMO

The couch bounce. That would make Misty the key. No mention who that was is very interesting unless Misty doesnt know who it was. She was begged to come back into the home after she was off doing her thing so it might have interupted her bussiness plans, err.. whatever those where. If she had any which I think there were rumors. I always thought Rons mom knew something big. I think really she is the key.
 
My original link didn't work either. But I found it at ***********:

http://www.***********.net/123784

snip

We have conducted formal interviews with 76 different individuals who were identified as having possible information in the Haleigh investigation. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.

snip

FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE&#8217;s crime lab for analysis (i.e. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.

ETA: Oops, sorry about that. I'll try to find another source
ETA: Press Release Feb 9, 2010. Sorry I have no working link

I understood this to mean they had DNA they considered important to the case, and had not matched it to anyone they interviewed.
 
I'm not sure... IMO the news release just says that they've been doing tests to find DNA traces but it didn't help them identify a suspect. It does not say whether or not they found any unidentified DNA that could be the perp's.

Purely JMO, they didn't, because if they had a stranger's DNA in a strategic place they would have been more careful saying that they think it was not a stranger abduction.

(I am assuming that they have the DNA of everybody who was known to have been there.)
 
Thank you to the OP that brought the vid here. I did listen and watch it.

This doesn't change my viewpoint. IMHO MC is complicit in what happened to Haleigh and this isn't a theory thread so I'll keep that off this thread.

But I wanted to share that I've had the recent experience of dealing very closely with someone who was diagnosed with personality disorder. I'm not saying that MC is---but since I've had this latest experience I have realized that lies can be told and the person lying really isn't cognizant of the fact they are lying. The coping and defense mechanisims are so deeply ingrained in their psyche that they are telling what their minds will allow them to accept. Also, what we as those that are non-disordered see as manipulation may also fall into the above definition.

Again not saying she is disordered, no one but a doc can determine that. But given the history we do know about her childhood and adolescence it's not a stretch for me personally to look at what she has said in the past and what she says in this video and come away with the impression that she may just be a deeply troubled young woman.

All of the above IMHO doesn't excuse her but rather makes it more difficult to ever determine what it was that happened to Haleigh. I do still think she knows more. Whether she is deliberately withholding info or if her mind won't let her even confront that knowledge---I'm not sure we will ever know.

All JMHO. Again thanks she looks good.
 
Don't need the link, thanks.
I never indicated Ron was not a drug user, drug trafficker or a liar.

I'm saying he didn't harm, hide, cover-up or abduct his daughter.
That is my opinion formed by the direction LE has gone and their own words.
When and if Ron's status in HaLeigh's disappearance is ever officially changed, I will gladly look in his direction.
So far LE has not.
So far LE has indicated this is a Croslin and possibly Overstreet crime.

Because some don't like the way he walks, talks, sits, smiles, moves, cries, looks and dresses will not sway my opinion because these things seem based on frivolous, mean spirited conceptions about the man.
I'm simply not that type person.

We can agree to disagree :), i didn't say you said those things, my post is pointing out that although we are all aware that the Croslins lie, all the time, Ron does as well,(and was lying in the beginning of the case--why would you lie about ANYTHING when your child is missing???) that interview i provided the link so that others who maybe haven't been around as long as you or i, would be able to view it :).Ron is lying about things that ARE important to his image. JMO
 
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