Misty's New Interview

[Crosby87]

I would like to ask Misty if Ron had the scratches on his neck and hands before he left for work Monday afternoon.

The scratches and band aid on Ron’s neck Tuesday suggest to me he took his daughter from her bed and she fought back. He told us Hailey said she would see him when he got home from work.

This is the first time I heard Misty say Ron appeared strung out on drugs when he returned from work. There is speculation Hailey was stolen because her father owed money for drugs and it is a fact a portion of the money deposited into the bank account the funeral director opened for him went to pay his rent which was in arrears, car insurance and utility bills. Ron is my prime suspect and apparently his employer beefed up security where Ron worked after his daughter vanished. Ron took pills that belonged to Misty according to her and Misty knows a whole lot more. Ron’s landlords, The Bards, never said Ron didn’t pay his rent on time but I know for a fact monies were allocated from the trust fund for this purpose.

Roughly a year ago Misty told her father Hank Sr that CPS interviewed her in St. John’s County Jail and she told them Ron was a great father. She also denied Ron would harm his daughter because she was his heart. Now she is opening up and admitting Ron physically, emotionally and psychologically abused her, Hailey, and Junior throughout their entire relationship. After Haleigh told her mother Ron was hurting them Crystal said she contacted CPS but she wasn't awarded temporary custody of her children. I wish charges for Domestic Violence would be laid against Ron and he would be held accountable for his crimes. Misty, Crystal and Amber could all testify in Court against him and Justice would be served somewhat. It would make me very happy if charges were yet laid against Ron Cummings for domestic violence.

If the Judge who convicted the male who raped Misty Croslin didn’t order him to pay his victim, Misty Croslin, a determined amount of money in restitution, he should have. In the State of Florida, it’s the guilty person’s responsibility to compensate and pay monies to the victim. JM was in his early twenties when he was convicted and sent to prison for rape so it is reasonable to assume he will earn an income. He can earn an income in prison so IMO the Justice system failed Misty if they didn’t issue an order instructing JM to pay her once he was convicted. The Victims Compensation Board only offered to cover the cost of counseling services for Misty afaik and she was a minor when she was raped. However they should have seen that JM’s wages were garnished and Misty got what she deserves.

I am interested in knowing if Misty could file a grievance against the Court to have this oversight rectified. The Court failed Misty so they should be paying her IMO.

 

[lil momma]

Nice post Bluesky! (didnt want to quote in order to save space...couldn't snip it b/c it was all too good! )

Something i wasn't aware of, When Misty was raped, that was in Florida? TIA!!!!

 

[krkrjx]

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If the Judge who convicted the male who raped Misty Croslin didn’t order him to pay his victim, Misty Croslin, a determined amount of money in restitution, he should have. In the State of Florida, it’s the guilty person’s responsibility to compensate and pay monies to the victim. JM was in his early twenties when he was convicted and sent to prison for rape so it is reasonable to assume he will earn an income. He can earn an income in prison so IMO the Justice system failed Misty if they didn’t issue an order instructing JM to pay her once he was convicted. The Victims Compensation Board only offered to cover the cost of counseling services for Misty afaik and she was a minor when she was raped. However they should have seen that JM’s wages were garnished and Misty got what she deserves.

I am interested in knowing if Misty could file a grievance against the Court to have this oversight rectified. The Court failed Misty so they should be paying her IMO.

Actually, JM is in his early 20s now. He was a minor at the time of the crime and at the time he entered his plea. He may have still been 17 when sentenced, but certainly wasn't more than 18.

(Not that anything having to do with JM pertains to this new Misty interview, but Misty did bring up having been raped and I feel it is important to point out that JM was not an adult who preyed upon a 15 year old child; they were both minors.)

 

[dodie20]

I would like to know who the interviewer was. I would like to know what questions were asked of Misty in this interview. I would like to know if we are seeing a complete interview or just a tiny snippet. I think this is just a snippet and as such we are not hearing all that Misty said. If that is the case, why bother releasing any of it? If Misty has something to say now, I would like to hear that in its entirety...not just a tiny portion of her statement.

Two things that jump out at me are: Now Misty says she gave Haleigh a bath, and now there were no pee blankets washed.

The blankets were a big issue for Misty before. And I have never heard her say she bathed Haleigh, nor has anyone else ever said it. Maybe everyone thought a bath was such a tiny detail that it was not worth mentioning but when I consider all the insignificant detail that Misty included in her initial stories...and kept in for subsequent tellings...why did she not initially say she had given Haleigh a bath?

Maybe a bath seems unimportant to the events of that evening, but what if it isn't? What if something happened to Haleigh in the bath???

GGS made a statement about Misty's parenting where she claimed Misty did Haleigh's hair up, rubbed her legs at night when she had painful cramps, fed the kids, bathed the kids, etc. But I never took that as GGS speaking of that evening in particular, it sounded to me more like a general list of things Misty was known to do for the kids. At no time did I interpret this as Misty gave Haleigh a bath that evening.

Also, in this interview either I am missing it or there is no statement of when Misty noticed the back door propped open. The back door was something Misty has never left out of any version before.

If this intereview was put out to the public in such an incomplete form that statements about the pee blankets and the back door were left out, I would like to know that because if Misty in fact left these things out of the current interview, it's huge to me. People can easily forget or mix up lies they have told; real events tend to stick in the memory.

actually, I do remember early on, giving Haleigh a bath was a part of somebody's story...maybe Misty's, maybe somebody elses. After the story got so convoluted, with the AC man, Haleigh popping wheelies, (which a neighbor at one time reportedly witnessed), eating dinner, AS bringing laundry, smoking with Tommy, homework, movies...all before the the set in stone bedtime, I wondered where the bath fit in. maybe before AS's visit, and that would sort of explain no shirts. At some point I even read that Misty ate at Tommy's and then read that LC dropped by after class and ate at Misty's. A lot was supposedly going on in those few short hours. I don't think I believe any of this, except maybe the AC man. I wonder what happened after he left. No way do I believe Misty ran a tight schedule. MOO

 

[krkrjx]

Thanks dodie...and wow! Until this current interview, I never heard that Misty gave either child a bath that evening.

If anyone can provide a link where Misty or Ron (or anyone) had claimed Misty bathed Haleigh that evening please do because, until I see where it was mentioned before, I have to assume this is a new twist to Misty's story.

TIA since I can't get on here as often as I used to.

 

[Donjeta]

I just remember thinking no one said anything about baths and wondering if Haleigh ever got washed after peeing on herself the previous night. (If it was a true story. Big if.) Apparently no one noticed the mishap in the morning since the sheets didn't get changed until in the evening.

 

[krkrjx]

I just remember thinking no one said anything about baths and wondering if Haleigh ever got washed after peeing on herself the previous night. (If it was a true story. Big if.) Apparently no one noticed the mishap in the morning since the sheets didn't get changed until in the evening.

Until I can see a link to a previous bath statement, I am inclined to believe that a bath was mentioned by someone here at WS as part of their theory or one of their theories...and that none of the players or family ever mentioned a bath. I really do not recall Misty ever mentioning it but I wonder if she did actually give Haleigh a bath that evening and purposely left it out in previous tellings.

OK...here's where I'm going with this: Misty's big obsession initially was the pee blanket; she could barely open her mouth without mentioning pee blankets. I never was convinced Misty washed blankets but now I do think there could have been a pee issue since it was so much on Misty's mind at the time, so much that it is very interesting indeed that it is not mentioned in this latest interview.

Maybe Haleigh wet her bed that evening, enough that Misty had no choice but to give her a bath. Maybe Misty was not at all pleased about that.

Pee was an issue, now it isn't. There was no bath mentioned then, now there is. Just wondering, that's all.

 

[Emeralgem]

I just remember thinking no one said anything about baths and wondering if Haleigh ever got washed after peeing on herself the previous night. (If it was a true story. Big if.) Apparently no one noticed the mishap in the morning since the sheets didn't get changed until in the evening.

Misty claimed she was gone that weekend.. Problem as I see it IF she was there on Sunday night like some would like for us to believe, she would have known Haleigh had wet the bed and would have needed a bath before she ever went to school..Also, she never mentioned having to wash any sheets that had been peed on, just the blanket... IIRC the LVA revealed the pee story wasn't true..JMHO

 

[Crosby87]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...-and-misty-s-mother-files-order-of-protection

Here is an excellent interview where Geraldo speaks with Crystal Sheffield and her mother about why they believe Ron was abusing Hailey.

A reporter at the end of the video said JM was charged and found guilty of lewd, lascivious battery, sex with victim 12-15 y.o. and the crime occurred on February 7, 2006 in Flagler Beach. JM who is currently 22 y.o. was 18 when he committed this crime so he was an adult. Misty’s name does not appear in the court record but Lisa Croslin’s name does because she filed a petition for protection and a petition permitting Misty to testify against JM in Court.

For current information on JM, type in his name and Flagler Beach in the link below and click on view flyer. JM is single and should be paying a portion of his earnings to Misty.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/offenderSearchNav.do?link=advanced

I believe Misty was living with Timmy in Flagler Beach when the crime occurred.

I am certain Misty suffers from Rape-Related Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and now Battered Women’s Syndrome but I doubt she’s ever been diagnosed by a psychiatrist. Misty’s lawyer isn’t doing her any good. Misty is not focused on her own recovery so she requires intense therapy and support. This is why Misty is so disoriented and incoherent. She needs to focus on herself and take care of her own needs. Rape is categorized as a violent crime.

I copied key information that pertains to Misty Croslin from the link on Restitution for Crime Victims so we have a general idea of how it works. In some countries and states victims of rape diagnosed with PTSD receive a minimum of $7500-$10,000 to compensate for the psychological pain and suffering they live with on a daily basis.

<snipped> http://www.aardvarc.org/rape/about.shtml

Sexual victimization in all of its forms has a devastating impact on the mental health of victims. 31% of all victims develop Rape-Related Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (RR-PTSD) sometime in their lifetimes. Based on U.S. Census reports on the number of women in the United States, 1.3 million women currently have RR-PTSD, 3.8 million women have previously had RR-PTSD and roughly 211,000 women will develop RR-PTSD each year.

When compared with non-victims, rape victims have been found to be 8.7 times more likely to attempt suicide.

<snipped>http://www.aardvarc.org/victim/restitution.shtml

Right to Restitution:

Every state gives courts the statutory authority to order restitution. In more than one-third of all states, courts are required by statute to order restitution unless there are compelling or extraordinary circumstances. Florida law is typical, providing that &#8220;in addition to any punishment, the court shall order the defendant to make restitution to the victim for:
1. Damage or loss caused directly or indirectly by the defendant&#8217;s offense; and
2. Damage or loss related to the defendant&#8217;s criminal episode, unless it finds clear and compelling reasons not to order such restitution.&#8221;

In many states, the law requires restitution but allows broad exceptions to that rule. For instance, Connecticut and Nevada both require restitution &#8220;if restitution is appropriate.&#8221; Oregon provides that restitution shall be ordered &#8220;whenever possible.&#8221; Regardless of whether restitution is mandatory, about one-quarter of all states require courts to state on the record the reasons for failing to order restitution or for ordering only partial restitution. This requirement is thought to further encourage courts to consider restitution to the victim when sentencing convicted offenders.

Considerations in Ordering Restitution:

In Florida, the court is charged only with considering the loss sustained by the victim in determining whether to order restitution and the amount of restitution. At the time the restitution order is enforced, the court is to consider the defendant&#8217;s financial resources, the present and potential future financial needs and earning ability of the defendant and his or her dependents, and other appropriate factors.

<snipped>

Crime victim compensation is a government program to reimburse victims of violent crimes- such as assault, homicide, rape, and, in some states, burglary - as well as their families for many of their out-of-pocket expenses. Every state has a crime victim compensation program and contact information for each state is listed in this link.

http://www.ncvc.org/NCVC/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32351

 

[krkrjx]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...-and-misty-s-mother-files-order-of-protection

Here is an excellent interview where Geraldo speaks with Crystal Sheffield and her mother about why they believe Ron was abusing Hailey.

A reporter at the end of the video said JM was charged and found guilty of lewd, lascivious battery, sex with victim 12-15 y.o. and the crime occurred on February 7, 2006 in Flagler Beach. JM who is currently 22 y.o. was 18 when he committed this crime so he was an adult. Misty&#8217;s name does not appear in the court record but Lisa Croslin&#8217;s name does because she filed a petition for protection and a petition permitting Misty to testify against JM in Court.

For current information on JM, type in his name and Flagler Beach in the link below and click on view flyer. JM is single and should be paying a portion of his earnings to Misty.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/offenderSearchNav.do?link=advanced

I believe Misty was living with Timmy in Flagler Beach when the crime occurred.

I am certain Misty suffers from Rape-Related Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and now Battered Women&#8217;s Syndrome but I doubt she&#8217;s ever been diagnosed by a psychiatrist. Misty&#8217;s lawyer isn&#8217;t doing her any good. Misty is not focused on her own recovery so she requires intense therapy and support. This is why Misty is so disoriented and incoherent. She needs to focus on herself and take care of her own needs. Rape is categorized as a violent crime.

I copied key information that pertains to Misty Croslin from the link on Restitution for Crime Victims so we have a general idea of how it works. In some countries and states victims of rape diagnosed with PTSD receive a minimum of $7500-$10,000 to compensate for the psychological pain and suffering they live with on a daily basis.

<snipped> http://www.aardvarc.org/rape/about.shtml

Sexual victimization in all of its forms has a devastating impact on the mental health of victims. 31% of all victims develop Rape-Related Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (RR-PTSD) sometime in their lifetimes. Based on U.S. Census reports on the number of women in the United States, 1.3 million women currently have RR-PTSD, 3.8 million women have previously had RR-PTSD and roughly 211,000 women will develop RR-PTSD each year.

When compared with non-victims, rape victims have been found to be 8.7 times more likely to attempt suicide.

<snipped>http://www.aardvarc.org/victim/restitution.shtml

Right to Restitution:

Every state gives courts the statutory authority to order restitution. In more than one-third of all states, courts are required by statute to order restitution unless there are compelling or extraordinary circumstances. Florida law is typical, providing that &#8220;in addition to any punishment, the court shall order the defendant to make restitution to the victim for:
1. Damage or loss caused directly or indirectly by the defendant&#8217;s offense; and
2. Damage or loss related to the defendant&#8217;s criminal episode, unless it finds clear and compelling reasons not to order such restitution.&#8221;

In many states, the law requires restitution but allows broad exceptions to that rule. For instance, Connecticut and Nevada both require restitution &#8220;if restitution is appropriate.&#8221; Oregon provides that restitution shall be ordered &#8220;whenever possible.&#8221; Regardless of whether restitution is mandatory, about one-quarter of all states require courts to state on the record the reasons for failing to order restitution or for ordering only partial restitution. This requirement is thought to further encourage courts to consider restitution to the victim when sentencing convicted offenders.

Considerations in Ordering Restitution:

In Florida, the court is charged only with considering the loss sustained by the victim in determining whether to order restitution and the amount of restitution. At the time the restitution order is enforced, the court is to consider the defendant&#8217;s financial resources, the present and potential future financial needs and earning ability of the defendant and his or her dependents, and other appropriate factors.

<snipped>

Crime victim compensation is a government program to reimburse victims of violent crimes- such as assault, homicide, rape, and, in some states, burglary - as well as their families for many of their out-of-pocket expenses. Every state has a crime victim compensation program and contact information for each state is listed in this link.

http://www.ncvc.org/NCVC/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32351

I understand how you feel about this but JM took a plea deal and it could be that the deal meant no monetary restitution. I agee that Misty was failed in many ways while she was growing up and maybe that court was just another on the long list. A court also failed Haleigh, so maybe her mother should sue. I just don't know the specifics of restitution in Florida, and I do not know how one would go about placing a monetary figure on damages done in a sexual assault.

One thing though...

With the huge number of rumors floating around already, I just do not want to see more so I feel it is important to point out once again that JM was a minor when he committed his crime. I am not condoning what he did in any way shape or form! and being a few months shy of one's 18th birthday is not an excuse to do a crime. The victim suffers just the same. JM went to prison in February 2006, but the offense date was in March, 2005 according to FL DOC records:

ETA this info from FL DOC offender search:

Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Prison Sentence Length
03/20/2005 L/L BATT.SEX W/V12-15 02/07/2006 FLAGLER 0500235 8Y 2M 0D

 

[azwriter]

I would like to know who the interviewer was. I would like to know what questions were asked of Misty in this interview. I would like to know if we are seeing a complete interview or just a tiny snippet. I think this is just a snippet and as such we are not hearing all that Misty said. If that is the case, why bother releasing any of it? If Misty has something to say now, I would like to hear that in its entirety...not just a tiny portion of her statement.

Two things that jump out at me are: Now Misty says she gave Haleigh a bath, and now there were no pee blankets washed.

The blankets were a big issue for Misty before. And I have never heard her say she bathed Haleigh, nor has anyone else ever said it. Maybe everyone thought a bath was such a tiny detail that it was not worth mentioning but when I consider all the insignificant detail that Misty included in her initial stories...and kept in for subsequent tellings...why did she not initially say she had given Haleigh a bath?

Maybe a bath seems unimportant to the events of that evening, but what if it isn't? What if something happened to Haleigh in the bath???

GGS made a statement about Misty's parenting where she claimed Misty did Haleigh's hair up, rubbed her legs at night when she had painful cramps, fed the kids, bathed the kids, etc. But I never took that as GGS speaking of that evening in particular, it sounded to me more like a general list of things Misty was known to do for the kids. At no time did I interpret this as Misty gave Haleigh a bath that evening.

Also, in this interview either I am missing it or there is no statement of when Misty noticed the back door propped open. The back door was something Misty has never left out of any version before.

If this intereview was put out to the public in such an incomplete form that statements about the pee blankets and the back door were left out, I would like to know that because if Misty in fact left these things out of the current interview, it's huge to me. People can easily forget or mix up lies they have told; real events tend to stick in the memory.

krkrj, Thanks for catching the part about Misty giving Haleigh a bath. If that were the case, surely she would have changed Haleigh's clothes after the bath. I don't think she would put the same clothes the child wore to school that day back on her.

But wait! In the 911 call, Misty claims Haleigh was last seen wearing pajamas. But, I don't think pajamas were included in the description of what she was wear when she went missing. Something is not right or doesn't ring true about this new update.

 

[krkrjx]

krkrj, Thanks for catching the part about Misty giving Haleigh a bath. If that were the case, surely she would have changed Haleigh's clothes after the bath. I don't think she would put the same clothes the child wore to school that day back on her.

But wait! In the 911 call, Misty claims Haleigh was last seen wearing pajamas. But, I don't think pajamas were included in the description of what she was wear when she went missing. Something is not right or doesn't ring true about this new update.

TY, but I didn't really catch it, another sleuther did. I have wondered in my own mind for a while if Misty gave Haleigh a bath that evening. She never once mentioned it and to me that is something she would not have inadvertently left out way back in the beginning when LE was hounding her for every detail.

Now that Misty claims she gave Haleigh a bath, I have to consider that she did, which makes me wonder if this was the norm for an evening or if Haleigh maybe wet her bed that evening and had to be bathed. Misty was tired and could have been extra-sensitive to the misdeeds of a small child. Could the bath have not gone well, perhaps? Could Haleigh have been hit with a board at that time, maybe?

I look at the new Misty and see not only physical changes. Her way of speaking is different now. She speaks more calmly and with more purpose, IMO. Maybe she is still lying about some things, but her now claiming there was a bath, while leaving out the pee issue and exactly when she noticed the back door wide open says some things to me. It says that two issues that were so huge in Misty's mind before may not be huge now. I question why, and while I do not want to read too much into this latest interview, I can't help but hope that Misty might be coming around, and that any statements she might make in the future could contain more facts and less fiction.

 

[dodie20]

I understand how you feel about this but JM took a plea deal and it could be that the deal meant no monetary restitution. I agee that Misty was failed in many ways while she was growing up and maybe that court was just another on the long list. A court also failed Haleigh, so maybe her mother should sue. I just don't know the specifics of restitution in Florida, and I do not know how one would go about placing a monetary figure on damages done in a sexual assault.

One thing though...

With the huge number of rumors floating around already, I just do not want to see more so I feel it is important to point out once again that JM was a minor when he committed his crime. I am not condoning what he did in any way shape or form! and being a few months shy of one's 18th birthday is not an excuse to do a crime. The victim suffers just the same. JM went to prison in February 2006, but the offense date was in March, 2005 according to FL DOC records:

ETA this info from FL DOC offender search:

Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Prison Sentence Length
03/20/2005 L/L BATT.SEX W/V12-15 02/07/2006 FLAGLER 0500235 8Y 2M 0D

After all this happened, I would think that Misty should have been under the watchful eye of CPS...checking up on her and her family constantly, to see how she was coping, to make sure she went to school, to make sure she didn't react in a way that would hurt herself or others, require counseling, etc...I mean, this guy went to the pen, but that wasn't the end of it. Nobody and I mean nobody, could walk away from a situation like that and be ok and be able to just go back to being a kid. MOO

 

[krkrjx]

After all this happened, I would think that Misty should have been under the watchful eye of CPS...checking up on her and her family constantly, to see how she was coping, to make sure she went to school, to make sure she didn't react in a way that would hurt herself or others, require counseling, etc...I mean, this guy went to the pen, but that wasn't the end of it. Nobody and I mean nobody, could walk away from a situation like that and be ok and be able to just go back to being a kid. MOO

This would be a very difficult thing to heal from even in the best of circumstances, IMO.

Misty mentioned this rape in this latest interview. She mentioned it in her LVA, IIRC. She has mentioned it in casual interviews in the past. If you look at how often Misty has brought this fact up, it is clear that she has not healed. It is also clear that Misty is feeling misunderstood and that she believes everyone has downplayed much of what she has gone through.

I think Misty deserved a lot better than what she got from all the adults in her life and maybe how the court handled her assault case was not justice for her. I had heard it said that the Victim Compensation agency paid, but because Misty was a minor, the money was actually paid to Lisa. This payment was based on Misty's need for psychological counseling as a victim of violent crime. I had heard that even though the money was paid, Misty did not get counseling. There is no documentation of this that I know of, so it is rumor I suppose...but if it is true, I can't imagine how Misty must feel knowing money was available to help her and she still didn't get help.

 

[dodie20]

This would be a very difficult thing to heal from even in the best of circumstances, IMO.

Misty mentioned this rape in this latest interview. She mentioned it in her LVA, IIRC. She has mentioned it in casual interviews in the past. If you look at how often Misty has brought this fact up, it is clear that she has not healed. It is also clear that Misty is feeling misunderstood and that she believes everyone has downplayed much of what she has gone through.

I think Misty deserved a lot better than what she got from all the adults in her life and maybe how the court handled her assault case was not justice for her. I had heard it said that the Victim Compensation agency paid, but because Misty was a minor, the money was actually paid to Lisa. This payment was based on Misty's need for psychological counseling as a victim of violent crime. I had heard that even though the money was paid, Misty did not get counseling. There is no documentation of this that I know of, so it is rumor I suppose...but if it is true, I can't imagine how Misty must feel knowing money was available to help her and she still didn't get help.

Misty does bring up a lot of terrible things that happened to her. I never know for sure if it's because she's scarred or because she's using it to manipulate or if she's trying to explain why she is the way she is and is seeking to justify her actions. IDK about her, but she HAS had a horrible life and I would think manipulating that sort of thing would be a normal reaction. I feel sorry for this girl. She never had much of a chance and I can see why she latched on to Ron, his mother, and gm. I had no idea there was monetary compensation for this sort of thing. I learn something new every day. MOO

 

[krkrjx]

Oh, I want to feel sorry for Misty too. I just can't. I can't because of Haleigh. I am certain that Misty has lied about that evening, or at least withheld vital information. I cannot get past that.

A lot of people grow up in ugly situations and while some go on to lead a life of crime, many do not. Being a victim is not an excuse to victimize others.

I am not a fan of plea bargains, especially in cases of violent crimes. If a person seeks justice for a violent attack and the court accepts a plea bargain for a lesser charge, how can the victim ever feel vindicated? And in a case where a minor is awarded funds for the sole purpose of psychological counseling, it should be mandatory that the recipient show proof that those funds were used for that purpose.

Misty should never have been in charge of young children. She is not only not mother material, she isn't even babysitter material. Everyone bragged up Misty's babysitting prowess but they based that on the fact that kids loved her, she played with them, etc. But Misty got along with kids because she was a kid herself. But even Misty can't see that. She said in this interview she was the kids' mother, because they didn't have a mother. I get bothered big time every time I hear her say that; she is still deluding herself and still no one calls her on it.

 

[zadari]

i still think they both know .. i think haleigh got into their drugs .. and died bc of it .and i think that they got rid of her little body somewhere bc they were scared i dunno .. none of this crap shouldve EVER happened .. stupid adults

 

[dodie20]

Oh, I want to feel sorry for Misty too. I just can't. I can't because of Haleigh. I am certain that Misty has lied about that evening, or at least withheld vital information. I cannot get past that.

A lot of people grow up in ugly situations and while some go on to lead a life of crime, many do not. Being a victim is not an excuse to victimize others.

I am not a fan of plea bargains, especially in cases of violent crimes. If a person seeks justice for a violent attack and the court accepts a plea bargain for a lesser charge, how can the victim ever feel vindicated? And in a case where a minor is awarded funds for the sole purpose of psychological counseling, it should be mandatory that the recipient show proof that those funds were used for that purpose.

Misty should never have been in charge of young children. She is not only not mother material, she isn't even babysitter material. Everyone bragged up Misty's babysitting prowess but they based that on the fact that kids loved her, she played with them, etc. But Misty got along with kids because she was a kid herself. But even Misty can't see that. She said in this interview she was the kids' mother, because they didn't have a mother. I get bothered big time every time I hear her say that; she is still deluding herself and still no one calls her on it.

Misty's reasoning skills are warped. They all told her how wonderful she was and she bought it. If somebody said she was a mother, then she bought it...never mind the WHYS. She didn't steal those kids or force their dad to let her play mommy. In the 911, she said 'our daughter', and there was never a correction...just TN saying that Misty was the best gf Ron ever had and the kids loved her. Of course Misty saw herself as mommy. Tommy feeding Misty the JO story and her going along with it, proves what kind of person she is. She parrots what others tell her. never mind if it's a big ol lie. Some day real soon, I hope Misty tells her story...without any interference from anybody. just the facts of what happened that night. And if she's inclined, she can talk about everything that led up to that night. I know all of us here, will be all ears. MOO.

 

[4Jacy]

i still think they both know .. i think haleigh got into their drugs .. and died bc of it .and i think that they got rid of her little body somewhere bc they were scared i dunno .. none of this crap shouldve EVER happened .. stupid adults

The reason I can't believe the drug theory, is I think RC would have kept his drugs very well hidden. Not only could he not trust MC not to take them, but her whole family and RC's friends. He probably kept them hidden in his truck or on his person.

If the wall was truly taken down in the MH it was probably for far more nefarious reasons. JMO

 

[krkrjx]

Misty's reasoning skills are warped. They all told her how wonderful she was and she bought it. If somebody said she was a mother, then she bought it...never mind the WHYS. She didn't steal those kids or force their dad to let her play mommy. In the 911, she said 'our daughter', and there was never a correction...just TN saying that Misty was the best gf Ron ever had and the kids loved her. Of course Misty saw herself as mommy. Tommy feeding Misty the JO story and her going along with it, proves what kind of person she is. She parrots what others tell her. never mind if it's a big ol lie. Some day real soon, I hope Misty tells her story...without any interference from anybody. just the facts of what happened that night. And if she's inclined, she can talk about everything that led up to that night. I know all of us here, will be all ears. MOO.

I'm going out on a limb here to say that after hearing this interview I have a glimmer of hope for the first time in a long time that Misty will eventually tell her story. Do you remember when Misty kept saying in early interviews/tests/jail visits that Ron was a good father, that Haleigh was Ron's heart and that he would never hurt her??

But now...we are hearing from Misty that Ron abused his kids. And that he abused Misty whenever she intervened on the kids' behalf. I have believed all along that there was child abuse ongoing in that household, but it is really good to actually hear Misty say it, finally. Misty stated in court in St. Johns that Ron was sometimes rough with her, but that's as as far as she went on the subject of abuse, and AFAIK she has never admitted Ron was abusive to the kids until now. This is progress, IMO.

If Misty were handled right--maybe if she got some counseling from a therapist she could connect with, I think her story would come out. The therapist would not be allowed to share any of it due to confidentiality laws but if therapy progressed well, Misty would come out with the facts herself.

Possibly Misty is receiving counseling already but if she isn't, I don't see the authorities arranging anything for her because, unfortunately, LE is done with this case, IMO. I think if anything occurred that was worth their looking at, they would look at it, but I do not think anyone in authority is actively seeking answers anymore.

Poor Haleigh.