Daughter of holocaust survivor here. I don't find the comparison offensive at all. They are the gestapo. My mother's stories of when the Gestapo came to their house, the sound of their boots, their violence makes this all very familiar to me.
For what my state calls a "Real ID" yes you do. You need a passport, birth certificate, SS#, learner's permit or driving school certificate and proof of insurance on the car being used for the test. Which is why it's very odd ICE won't accept it as proof of citizenship.
Considering they have still detained US citizens even after they’ve shown passports and other definitive proof of citizenship (papers if you will), I highly doubt they know how to recognize tribal documents. They went into the Ecuadorian consulate to try to detain someone and didn’t seem to know how to administer first aid and CPR to a gunshot victim. These are not well trained officers. I personally wouldn’t call them officers at all. All MOO.
He was trying to help her up from a fall, obviously concerned for her. She's actually lucky she wasn't shot too.Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse
Sec. 604A.01 MN Statutes
www.revisor.mn.gov
This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”
Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.
So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.
Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.
Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.
In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.
It is not offensive to me, it is a warning and heartbreakingly so. Not even that much of a warning, it is too very close to being the same to non white, white appearing people. (((( ))))
They are not, their training is ...what? We see what it is. IMO
I’ve been biting my tongue, but my Oma and her family were prisoners of war and I don’t find the comparison offensive either. I truly am thankful that my Oma is in heaven and unable to see what the America she loved, the America who liberated her from the camp, has become. Her little brother is still alive and in his 90’s and my cousins have to keep the news off because it disturbs him so much.
found this NPR link which features video of the same agent from the front who can be seen beginning to clap after the shots are fired. See the second video shown on the page.
Yes, let him be, he is long safe and should only be enjoying his family, a flower garden and sunshine, good food.
Yes our Real ID is just for domestic travel, looks the same size as a regular driver's license. I didn't know Canada accepted it, that might be changing soon, hope not. I read the Native Americans were taking from under a bridge area, they may not have even had a license or papers on them. But when identified as NA's by their tribe they were held basically for ransom by the DHS/ICE.
I can't speak to the law but I do think it's a fair point that a trained medical professional like a nurse might be more inclined than some people (who might be more reticent) to immediately run towards someone who's fallen or been pushed over.Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse
Sec. 604A.01 MN Statutes
This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”
Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.
So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.
Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.
Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.
In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.
That Trump quote in your post is exactly what I was talking about in my recent post. That's what I heard Trump say on TV as I passed thru the room w/the TV on.not laughing at you but at the dichotomy
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Guns, ammo … even a boat: how Oath Keepers plotted an armed coup
President Trump took decisive action to pardon January 6 defendants who were unfairly targeted, overcharged, and used as political examples.
January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy
So, to recap: armed men storm Whitehouse to disrupt peaceful transfer of power. No problem pardon those patriotic felllows. Alex Pretti, documenting ICE agents with a registered, permited holstered weapon, is met with
"Well, that being said," Trump returned to the reporter, "you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. Listen, you can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. It's just a very unfortunate incident." 'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors
we live in bizarro world at this point.
ETA LMAO I just hovered over my own post and saw that the white house link I posted in it is considered low credibility. You've got that right
It's absolutely absurd. Where were they planning to deport Native Americans to?!?
When I did first aid training, it said I should default to whomever is more experienced than me. That means if I'm giving first aid and a physician shows up, then they should take over based on their experience. I assumed this was common knowledge for first aid.
sadly we all have
They do which makes their response to Pretti and Goode even more egregious and concerning. As LE, they should have rendered first aid immediately, including performing CPR and applying tourniquets or stopping/managing any bleeding. They can use assistance of any medical professionals around, though because of doubt of a volunteer’s credentials, or inability to verify them during an emergency, it is somewhat understandable why they would be more hesitant than paramedics to ask for their help. Unfortunately, on a rare occasion a rioter or protester will falsely present themselves as a first responder to insert themselves in a situation, according to Star Tribune.
