MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
Unfortunately? If he had both hands flat on the ground, then it was vidible he did not have a gun in them. So if the agents panicked and started shooting blindly, which would mean they were both egregiously incompetent and unsuited for their job.

So that's your theory here? Seven men uncapable to restrain one dude who got pepper sprayed and whacked with the canister, two of them so nervous they start to shoot in that melee because someone yelled "gun"?
That's... That's not how trained, professional LE officers should ever behave.

MOO 🐄
 
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Unfortunately? If he had both hands flat on the ground, then it was vidible he did not have a gun in them. So if the agents panicked and started shooting blindly, which would mean they were both egregiously incompetent and unsuited for their job.

So that's your theory here? Seven men uncapable to restrain one dude who got pepper sprayed and whacked with the canister, two of them so nervous they start to shoot in that melee because someone yelled "gun"?
That's... That's not how trained, professional LE officers should ever behave.

MOO 🐄
No gun in his hands. Period. IMO
 
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Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo

Pinning a lawful protestor to the ground, punching him repeatedly in the face, then shooting him until he is dead is not an “unfortunate escalation”. It’s murder by the State. There is literally nothing Pretti did that warranted being executed.

“IMO”/“MOO”.
 
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No gun in his hands. Period. IMO
And IMO, the officer who first shot Alex, watched the officer in the green hoodie take Alex’s gun from his waistband. They were standing directly next to each other. So he knew at that point Alex was being disarmed.
 
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And IMO, the officer who first shot Alex, watched the officer in the green hoodie take Alex’s gun from his waistband. They were standing directly next to each other. So he knew at that point Alex was being disarmed.
Yes he did. Murdered him because he could. IMO
 
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Strictly in my personal opinion; people who vociferously supported the current administration into power, and who strictly adhere to its teachings, seem to be simply incapable of accepting when the regime stops playing by the normal rules of human decency. They seem to scrabble around for any excuse as to why something was justified and claim certain things as facts when they clearly and obviously are not.

The statement that AP approached ICE officers with a gun is disingenuous at best. The statement gives the impression that the gun was visible and that his intention was to make it known that he had a gun.

The statement that he "brandished" his firearm was, and will always be, an outright lie. He did nothing of the sort and it is obvious from every video that he did not.

The statement that he intended to "massacre" Federal Agents is also clearly a lie. If he wanted to do that he would just have started shooting.

The statement that he was a "domestic terrorist" is also obviously a lie. He was nothing of the sort.

For the record; I don't really believe that some people actually believe that the video shows something different to what it factually shows. It's no different to all the other daft conspiracy theories, in that people just cannot accept that something has happened, usually something which absolutely rocks their belief system, so have to invent ridiculous rubbish to try to deny it to themselves.

All My Own Opinion, obvs.
Earlier on, I likened it to a giant Jenga game: if one tiny piece is allowed to fall, it all falls down. They can't have that. They wouldn't know how to handle it.
 
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No gun in his hands. Period. IMO
That's obvious. I was just pointing out that with his hands on the ground it was visible to the agents he was not brandishing a gun. Unless they weren't looking and just shot blindly. Which would be pretty much horrible.
 
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That's obvious. I was just pointing out that with his hands on the ground it was visible to the agents he was not brandishing a gun. Unless they weren't looking and just shot blindly. Which would be pretty much horrible.
Yes, I was confirming for some that may not of watched any close up videos and def. confirming your comment as true. IMO
 
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what he was doing, was purposefully bringing a gun to a dangerous fed op repeatedly, and provoking and inviting harm onto himself, because he felt a sense of martyrdom. he rehearsed violating laws and putting the public in danger, until he finally got what he wanted.

I believe that the rule for psychiatrists is to never offer comments about psychiatric condition unless one has examined the client themselves? Do we even have any knowledge that Mr. Pretti had psychiatric diagnosis? Where does the assumption come from?

Do we have any information coming from Mr. Pretti’s behavior that even hints at his suicidality?

He was divorced, had a family, had many friends, a new car. He lost his dog a year ago but usually people mourn and with time, adopt a new one. Not when ICE is attacking one’s city.

To me, Mr. Pretti’s behavior is the normal one for a person whose city has become the unwilling host to masked border patrol agents.

I, on the other hand, have my questions about Mr. Bovino based on the articles from good sources but I doubt that any psychiatrist has met him in person.



And these raids on LA? This is on video. Bovino’s words.

“Legal is no moral”

“You are on camera…otherwise that’s what we do”

“It is our f@@@ing city” - about LA.

Now, all I can suspect that for a Californian Mr. Bovino, LA was “his” city. While Minneapolis in winter was nothing but!

Using his love to WWII history, as evidenced by his famed attire - Minneapolis became his Stalingrad.
 
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Having his hands flat on the ground does not mean he was pinned or restrained. Once officers heard the call gun, gun, gun, events unfortunately escalated. imo
Well, with seven men on top of you then you're definitely "pinned and restrained"!

Even if he wasn't then if his hands were on the ground he was absolutely 100% zero threat to anyone.
 
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That's how totalitary system works. Arresting people they dislike, because they can. As Andrey Wyshynski, infamous Soviet prosecutor said "give me a man and I'll find a law to lock him".

One thing about Wyshynski. He himself came from a gentry family (“a class enemy” in the USSR who didn’t even need a law to shoot him on the spot) + the member of the “Menshevik” branch of the communist party (“an ideological enemy”). Such people serve their masters the best. Out of fear.

Just an analogy to remember. As Karl Marx said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce”.
 
  • #2,072
He looked pretty restrained……
Yes. He was 100% restrained and incapable doing anything those agents didn't want him to do.

Stating anything else after watching the video is total cognitive dissonance, or a simple refusal to admit that you are wrong.

It's rather worrying, tbh.
 
  • #2,073
Brittle branches break. Flexible branches are stronger. It's okay to change your mind once you know more. It's a sign of strength of mind.
That goes for everyone, btw. Myself included.

jmopinion, subject to change if new knowledge warrants.
I have very flexible branches. :-) But I won't stand down when it comes to victim blaming and someone clearly attempting to distort the truth. jmo
 
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thank you for clearing that up for me. I understand completely
 
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That's how totalitary system works. Arresting people they dislike, because they can. As Andrey Wyshynski, infamous Soviet prosecutor said "give me a man and I'll find a law to lock him".
 
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That's your opinion.

Yes, that's my opinion.


Many of us on WS have also had this experience and know one when we see one. Regardless of your opinion to the contrary.

Anyone who ever witnessed an actual regime at work would be deeply worried seeing the LE shooting unarmed civilians snd arresting journalists. Because that's exactly what regimes do.
 
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I’m so sorry for offending the mods by speaking out against fascism and expressing an opinion that might hurt the feelings of racists and xenophobes. Thankfully, ya’ll were able to encourage free thought and speech by deleting any and all posts that hurt your feelings, or the feelings of those who held the equally viable opinions of hating others for merely existing. Free speech, brah!!!

***IN MY OPINION*** ***MY OPINION ONLY*** ***POSSIBLY AN ACCEPTABLE OPINION***
 

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