MN - Daunte Wright, 20, fatally shot by police during traffic stop, Brooklyn Center, 11 April 2021

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I found Taser Guidelines
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/30157-30162 Taser Policy.pdf

I have questions.
309.3A
Did she provide him with adequate time to comply?
Her actions appeared to happen in quick succession to her words..

The more I read , the more it appears no de-escalation at all was enacted or considered by her.
I'm basing this and it is limited to the short clip they gave us.

I know this is not the full story.
 
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Brian Peters, head of the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association, said Potter was working Sunday as a field training officer, training a new officer.
Officer who fatally shot man in Brooklyn Center is ID'd, career started 25 years ago
De-escalation should have been he first lesson.
Reading your article I couldn't help wishing that because of her seniority, a profound change might now, finally be brought about.

The article states she is a good person, always willing to help out.
That's probably or possibly the truth.

I hate working from a single segment of a story 'cos I feel I'm working blind, trying to put a jigsaw of a million pieces together when I only actually have 10.
 
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@MaryMoriarty
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The court sent a summons to Mr. Wright. This means that the prosecutor had already determined that bail was not needed. Otherwise the prosecutor would have asked for a complaint warrant with bail.
The court sent the summons to an address from which mail had already been returned. This means that Mr. Wright never received the summons. He missed the court date he didn’t know about and the court issued a warrant. An additional issue here is that Mr. Wright may not have received the summons for his first appearance.
The court issued a warrant when he did not appear. But, the charge was issued as a summons, with no bail required.

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I found Taser Guidelines
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/30157-30162 Taser Policy.pdf

I have questions.
309.3A
Did she provide him with adequate time to comply?
Her actions appeared to happen in quick succession to her words..

The more I read , the more it appears no de-escalation at all was enacted or considered by her.
I'm basing this and it is limited to the short clip they gave us.

I know this is not the full story.
Yes, she sounded in a full on panic in the clip shown. I couldn’t discern everything said though.
 
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Oh God!
Use of Force/Response to Resistance Date: 02/21 Use of Force/Response to Resistance Personnel: Sworn Personnel Page 6 of 7 Issued by: Chief of Police  On restrained individuals unless the actions of the person pose a threat of bodily harm to themselves or any other person.  On passively resistant subjects. Defensive resistance or active aggression shall be required. Fleeing from an officer, by itself, is not justification for the use of the Taser.  On soft tissue areas or the upper chest/breast area of an individual when possible.  On persons who are displaying high levels of exhaustion.  In a punitive or coercive manner, or as a means to extract information or admit guilt

Pp6 https://www.lakevillemn.gov/DocumentCenter/View/7848/Use-of-Force-Policy-PDF
 
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@MaryMoriarty
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The court sent a summons to Mr. Wright. This means that the prosecutor had already determined that bail was not needed. Otherwise the prosecutor would have asked for a complaint warrant with bail.
The court sent the summons to an address from which mail had already been returned. This means that Mr. Wright never received the summons. He missed the court date he didn’t know about and the court issued a warrant. An additional issue here is that Mr. Wright may not have received the summons for his first appearance.
The court issued a warrant when he did not appear. But, the charge was issued as a summons, with no bail required.

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@MaryMoriarty
They discovered the gross misdemeanor warrant Mr. Wright probably didn’t know he had, and they tried to arrest him. When he wrestled free of the cop and sat in the front seat of his car, an officer apparently intended to tase him. She shot him point-blank instead.

Was he still wrong to resist? If, to the best of his knowledge he was complying with all he had been asked to do , to date, he showed up for the earlier charges.?
I think it's likely he felt unfairly treated.
Maybe that is why he got back into what he perceived as the relative safety of his new vehicle.

What chance had he at all, yesterday?
A simple misdemeanor became a death sentence.

Nothing is being learned, is it?
 
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I found Taser Guidelines
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/30157-30162 Taser Policy.pdf

I have questions.
309.3A
Did she provide him with adequate time to comply?
Her actions appeared to happen in quick succession to her words..

The more I read , the more it appears no de-escalation at all was enacted or considered by her.
I'm basing this and it is limited to the short clip they gave us.

I know this is not the full story.

Thank you for the link @kittythehare Although it is from a different department, there may be some general similarities.

I think that de-escalation should always be the goal in police encounters, but it has to be understood against the backdrop of danger law enforcement face.

Something has to change IMO.
It seems that we have individuals who have a distrust of law enforcement and the legal system (social contract), and may be extra on edge, and perhaps do not comply fully with commands. Sometimes, maybe those commands are confusing and/or unreasonable, and I think that a lot more education needs to given on both sides. When you add cops who may be always anticipating danger, tragedies like Wright's killing occur. All MOO.
 
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Thank you for the link @kittythehare Although it is from a different department, there may be some general similarities.

I think that de-escalation should always be the goal in police encounters, but it has to be understood against the backdrop of danger law enforcement face.

Something has to change IMO.
It seems that we have individuals who have a distrust of law enforcement and the legal system (social contract), and may be extra on edge, and perhaps do not comply fully with commands. Sometimes, maybe those commands are confusing and/or unreasonable, and I think that a lot more education needs to given on both sides. When you add cops who may be always anticipating danger, tragedies like Wright's killing occur. All MOO.

He was just a scrawny kid, all 3 officers were armed.
Probably dead proud of his new vehicle, showing it off, I saw reports he was taking it to the car wash, even though it looked perfectly clean.
I agree with your points.
And I despair of it ever ending.
And that makes my heart too heavy and it's the reason I try to stay away from these tragedies.
Sometimes, however one gets zoomed in there.
I'll pay a high price for this,this 'witnessing' I do.
And it won't make any difference to the greater scheme of things.
 
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So many 'accidents'
- no de-escalation
-apparent wrongful use of taser
-apparent misread of charges and warrants by officers

Another dead child on the brink of an adulthood he will never realise.
A baby without a father, a woman without her partner, a mother's heart broken and a fearful community.

If a senior officer is incapable or unwilling to take in the current political climate with the GF trial ongoing, is that an accident too?

If a LE press conference throws the awaiting public a single film clip without context and imposes a draconian curfew at the same time, what are they really saying and doing?

Or was that another 'accident'?
 
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De-escalation should have been he first lesson.
Reading your article I couldn't help wishing that because of her seniority, a profound change might now, finally be brought about.

The article states she is a good person, always willing to help out.
That's probably or possibly the truth.

I hate working from a single segment of a story 'cos I feel I'm working blind, trying to put a jigsaw of a million pieces together when I only actually have 10.
I have to feel that there was a reason for the short clip.
 
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The evening in Portland started with a vigil for Wright. Once it ended, about 200 people marched to the Kelly Building. The paper reported that police at the building pushed protesters back into the street and deployed flash-bang grenades.
Portland police declare riot after vigil for Daunte Wright shooting

Protesters gather outside Brooklyn Center Police Department following Daunte Wright's fatal shooting

In a previous fatal shooting of a man in the Minneapolis suburb in August 2019, Potter was among the first to arrive at the scene where Kobe Dimock-Heisler died after he allegedly rushed at officers with a knife inside a home.

Potter instructed the two officers involved to "exit the residence, get into separate squad cars, turn off their body worn cameras, and to not talk to each other," according to an investigative report from the Hennepin County Attorney's Office. Both officers' actions were found to be justified, and no charges were filed.
Officer who fatally shot man in Brooklyn Center is ID'd, career started 25 years ago


Mayor Mike Elliott

Moments ago the council passed a motion 3-2 to give command authority over our Police Department to my office. At such a tough time, this will streamline things and establish a chain of command and leadership. I appreciate the other councilmembers who voted to approve this motion.

An hour later, Elliott announced that Brooklyn Center had fired its city manager, Curt Boganey, and replaced him with the city’s deputy manager, Reggie Edwards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/12/brookly-center-mayor-police-control/
 
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And you know if it is in your right or left hand. I hold my knife in my right hand and my fork in my left hand and never, ever get them mixed up.
Are they trained to use the tazer in their right or left hand?

This is where I end up stumped. Training should be so repetitive and rigorous that muscle memory takes over.
 
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This is where I end up stumped. Training should be so repetitive and rigorous that muscle memory takes over.

I wonder if there was a drug/alcohol screening for the officer. I am sure that law enforcement is a very stressful job, and there are too many cases where they sure seem to be impaired in some way. Her choice from the beginning to leave the sidelines, grab at him and take that card before he was secured just seemed so odd, and it seemed to be what set it all in motion by creating an opening and possibly spooking him into thinking she was planting something on him.

We are so keen on sides. "She did it on purpose". "He shouldn't have run". "It's a witch hunt". "Her lifelong remorse is enough punishment".

Was he rightfully arrested on a warrant? Yes. Is she a well-respected veteran of the force? Yes. But if we don't start seeing it as a bigger picture, where we hold people of positions in power when they intentionally abuse it, or in her case, make serious mistakes, then we will burrow deeper into this place where neither civilians or officers are safe. It has to start with the institutions, professional standards, and accountability.
 
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