MN - Daunte Wright, 20, fatally shot by police during traffic stop, Brooklyn Center, 11 April 2021

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  • #301
Wasn't the victim already in the car and attempting to flee at this point? It looked like the officer was reacting to the victim's attempting to flee from the officer and get back in the car to drive away. That is when the officer was trying to get the victim to remain in police custody.

This situation doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me...looks like a lot of rush to judgements here.

1. Victim pulled over for traffic code violation.
2. Victim identified as having an active warrant for arrest
3. Victim tried to leave police custody
4. Police react, accidentally shot victim instead of using taser.

Have I missed anything here?

Unless he's hurting people just let him flee and take down his license number. Don't American police officers take down the plate number of any vehicle they are approaching? I must say I don't understand how quickly a fair percentage of police in the USA escalate situations. They create a lot of problems for themselves in my opinion.
 
  • #302
He's there TO rile people up. Chant the name, start the emotional riots again. Thats His MO every time, it seems. Its made him a millionaire many times over. He's the first person called now. MOO
Not exactly.

Crump is an attorney of our times, as much a creature of the green room as the courtroom. In a nation lousy with lawyers, he has become the go-to advocate for families who have lost relatives to police brutality, as though his is the only name on the list. He accomplished this by being fluent in the language of the church, tort law, racial inequality and what he deems “the mediasphere,” paired with an indefatigable drive to be everywhere.

He’s an old-fashioned Southern gentleman, his language salted with “yes, m’ams,” but Crump owes his prominence and winning record in part to his harnessing of new technology. Cellphones, video surveillance and police body cams, a continuous loop of can’t-look-away evidence, altered the trajectory of his practice. “Ocular proof that black people weren’t lying, that police were brutalizing them,” he says. Winning comes through mastering the storytelling, building on a grand oral tradition, Crump says, “We are changing the narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...1007ba-af09-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

The new Yorker describes him-
Given how sympathetic juries tend to be toward police officers, the civil case is often the only case that can be won. Crump helped Michael Brown’s family win a $1.5 million settlement from the city of Ferguson, and he helped Trayvon Martin’s family settle, for an undisclosed sum, with the homeowners’ association in the neighborhood where Martin was killed. If Crump loses a case, he doesn’t charge anything. But if he wins he takes a third of the money awarded. He has fought more than two hundred police-violence cases, and he has won cash settlements in all of them. “We have never not recovered for these families,” he said. But the officers rarely end up in prison, and the murders go on. Crump could be the winningest attorney in the country who still reeks of failure.
Who Is the Floyd Family’s Lawyer?
 
  • #303
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Badly trained. All that screaming does is terrify the victim into doing something rash. An out of control armed police officer screaming at him. MOO.
I was under the impression that yelling "taser" was part of the training - that officers announce it.

Not that I am justifying what she did. It was clearly botched police work, at the expense of a man's life.

jmo
 
  • #304
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I was under the impression that yelling "taser" was part of the training - that officers announce it.

Not that I am justifying what she did. It was clearly botched police work, at the expense of a man's life.

jmo
They announce it but they are meant to give the victim reasonable time to respond.
Comply.
She went straight in there and shot him in the chest.
 
  • #305
They announce it but they are meant to give the victim reasonable time to respond.
Comply.
She went straight in there and shot him in the chest.
I understand. I'm not justifying her actions in the slightest.

jmo
 
  • #306
This is where I end up stumped. Training should be so repetitive and rigorous that muscle memory takes over.
I heard the police chief say yesterday that they train their officers to have their gun on the side of their dominant hand and their taser on their non-dominant side.
 
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  • #308
Unless he's hurting people just let him flee and take down his license number. Don't American police officers take down the plate number of any vehicle they are approaching? I must say I don't understand how quickly a fair percentage of police in the USA escalate situations. They create a lot of problems for themselves in my opinion.
It's the assumption that we are (mostly) super-dangerous, vicious sheep who are too stupid to reason with and must be overwhelmed by aggression. Some people do appear to get more compassion than others. But there's a huge money-making operation in training police to think that. It's called Killology. I wish I was joking. Knezovich defends controversial Killology police training seminar set to be in Spokane area

While Officer Potter made a mistake, the "freak out when a scared human acts like one" mindset made that mistake more likely, I'm sure. And though it was a mistake, this man's death is no "oopsie" for us all to get over.
 
  • #309
Sources tell 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS the Washington County Attorney's Office is planning on charging former Brooklyn Center police officer Kim Potter on Wednesday.

The case was sent to the Washington County Attorney's Office to avoid a conflict of interest with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which works closely with Brooklyn Center Police on criminal cases. The extent of the charges will be learned tomorrow.

Sources: Washington County Attorney's Office expected to charge officer in Brooklyn Center shooting Wednesday
 
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Not exactly.

Crump is an attorney of our times, as much a creature of the green room as the courtroom. In a nation lousy with lawyers, he has become the go-to advocate for families who have lost relatives to police brutality, as though his is the only name on the list. He accomplished this by being fluent in the language of the church, tort law, racial inequality and what he deems “the mediasphere,” paired with an indefatigable drive to be everywhere.

He’s an old-fashioned Southern gentleman, his language salted with “yes, m’ams,” but Crump owes his prominence and winning record in part to his harnessing of new technology. Cellphones, video surveillance and police body cams, a continuous loop of can’t-look-away evidence, altered the trajectory of his practice. “Ocular proof that black people weren’t lying, that police were brutalizing them,” he says. Winning comes through mastering the storytelling, building on a grand oral tradition, Crump says, “We are changing the narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...1007ba-af09-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

The new Yorker describes him-
Given how sympathetic juries tend to be toward police officers, the civil case is often the only case that can be won. Crump helped Michael Brown’s family win a $1.5 million settlement from the city of Ferguson, and he helped Trayvon Martin’s family settle, for an undisclosed sum, with the homeowners’ association in the neighborhood where Martin was killed. If Crump loses a case, he doesn’t charge anything. But if he wins he takes a third of the money awarded. He has fought more than two hundred police-violence cases, and he has won cash settlements in all of them. “We have never not recovered for these families,” he said. But the officers rarely end up in prison, and the murders go on. Crump could be the winningest attorney in the country who still reeks of failure.
Who Is the Floyd Family’s Lawyer?
Sadly, his niche is in an area that desperately needed someone.
 
  • #312
He's there TO rile people up. Chant the name, start the emotional riots again. Thats His MO every time, it seems. Its made him a millionaire many times over. He's the first person called now. MOO

I must agree. I honestly wish he did care about this poor family, and the victim, but I honestly don't believe he sincerely cares one iota. I've even seen him at times get the victim's name mixed up.

He shows up in his $5,000 to $10,000 suit, and he can easily afford such lavish lifestyle because of the millions he's made from the pain, and suffering of others.

In cases like this he knows he doesn't even have to show up in a courtroom to try these kind of cases.

BC knows all too well the city will offer a huge settlement without him ever stepping foot in a courtroom to earn it.

Jmho
 
  • #313
Sadly, his niche is in an area that desperately needed someone.
Yeah. If ya don't like him, keep him out of work by holding those with power accountable for protecting and serving like they are paid to. If our institutions functioned like they should, with internal accountability and professionalism, he would need to find something else to do.
 
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Sources tell 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS the Washington County Attorney's Office is planning on charging former Brooklyn Center police officer Kim Potter on Wednesday.

The case was sent to the Washington County Attorney's Office to avoid a conflict of interest with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which works closely with Brooklyn Center Police on criminal cases. The extent of the charges will be learned tomorrow.

Sources: Washington County Attorney's Office expected to charge officer in Brooklyn Center shooting Wednesday

It is good they're not dithering on this.
I wonder what the charges will be?
 
  • #316
It is good they're not dithering on this.
I wonder what the charges will be?

“The specific charges Potter would face are unclear, although legal experts say the 48-year-old could face second-degree manslaughter.

“Mistaking your Taser, which is lighter, colored differently and on another hip, with your handgun, which is black, heavy and on your other hip — and causing somebody’s death is second-degree manslaughter, or at least can be prosecuted as such,” Manhattan-based civil rights lawyer Ron Kuby told The New York Post.“

Police chief, officer resign after shooting death; charges expected
 
  • #317
as is the cop who killed Tamir Rice
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1382025510566367239?s=20

Nothing in federal law prohibits the officer who killed Daunte Wright from joining a police department in the next town over. We need a national database of officer misconduct.
https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1382040500543356933?s=20

*gotta start somewhere:
About 19,000 complaints, most of which were filed before 2000, contain some identical allegations. Some of these entries may be duplicates in the data the CCRB produced, though the NYCLU does not have a way to confirm that. About 33,000 entries list officer information, but contain NULL values for the complaint fields. The NYCLU cannot confirm the reason for the missing information (these 33,000 entries have been removed from the “sort by officer” tab). Details about the CCRB investigation process can be found on their website.

This database reflects data the NYCLU received in July 2020 from the CCRB. Since then, the CCRB published their records as of March 4, 2021, available on their website.
NYPD Misconduct Complaint Database

Data Transparency Initiative - CCRB
 
  • #318
EXCLUSIVE: Daunte Wright had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges after 'choking and holding a woman at gunpoint for $820 in 2019,' court papers reveal

  • "Daunte Wright was shot dead by Brooklyn Center Police Officer Kimberly Potter Sunday after he was pulled over for 'expired license plate tags'
  • DailyMail.com can reveal that Wright, 20, had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges at the time
  • Charging papers allege Wright and a second man, Emajay Driver, attended a party in December 2019 at the home of two women in Osseo, Minnesota
  • The women allowed the pair to crash after they said they didn't have a ride home
  • The next morning, after one of the women went to withdraw $820 in rent money, Wright allegedly held her at gunpoint and demanded she give him the cash
  • His bail was originally set at $100k with orders that he should not contact the victim or any witnesses, refrain from drugs and alcohol and not have any weapon
  • It was revoked in July last year due to his 'failure to not possess a firearm or ammunition' and not keeping in touch with his probation officer
  • DailyMail.com has also learned that online speculation that Wright did not know there was a warrant out for his arrest is false "
 
  • #319
Wasn't the victim already in the car and attempting to flee at this point? It looked like the officer was reacting to the victim's attempting to flee from the officer and get back in the car to drive away. That is when the officer was trying to get the victim to remain in police custody.

This situation doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me...looks like a lot of rush to judgements here.

1. Victim pulled over for traffic code violation.
2. Victim identified as having an active warrant for arrest
3. Victim tried to leave police custody
4. Police react, accidentally shot victim instead of using taser.

Have I missed anything here?
After #2 you could list---- 3.)victim complied and got out of the car-- 4.) victim complied and put his hands behind his back--- 5.) officer was in the process of handcuffing him 6.) female officer steps into the scene and places her hands on the victim and THEN he tries to leave and is shot by her.
 
  • #320
EXCLUSIVE: Daunte Wright had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges after 'choking and holding a woman at gunpoint for $820 in 2019,' court papers reveal

  • "Daunte Wright was shot dead by Brooklyn Center Police Officer Kimberly Potter Sunday after he was pulled over for 'expired license plate tags'
  • DailyMail.com can reveal that Wright, 20, had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges at the time
  • Charging papers allege Wright and a second man, Emajay Driver, attended a party in December 2019 at the home of two women in Osseo, Minnesota
  • The women allowed the pair to crash after they said they didn't have a ride home
  • The next morning, after one of the women went to withdraw $820 in rent money, Wright allegedly held her at gunpoint and demanded she give him the cash
  • His bail was originally set at $100k with orders that he should not contact the victim or any witnesses, refrain from drugs and alcohol and not have any weapon
  • It was revoked in July last year due to his 'failure to not possess a firearm or ammunition' and not keeping in touch with his probation officer
  • DailyMail.com has also learned that online speculation that Wright did not know there was a warrant out for his arrest is false "

Yup, not an angel, as few in his situation are. Still didn't deserve to be killed in the streets. That's what custody is - keeping him alive long enough to face justice. Professional standards should be that the officer keeps themselves and the suspect alive.
 
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