MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #8 - Chauvin Trial Day 5

[Niner]

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Zimmerman says the idea is to calm the person down, "if they are not a threat to you at that point..." you need to try and help them not be as upset.

Zimmerman says when a person is handcuffed and lying on their stomach it makes it more difficult for them to breathe.


Court is on the morning break.

JURY NOTES: From pool reporter- During Zimmerman's testimony about handcuffs, prone position, use of force, several more jurors start taking notes, seems to be something the jury believes is important.

MOOD BETWEEN ATTORNEYS (from pool reporter before court began) Schleicher asks Nelson: “So the only thing you still object to is photos?”

“Well,, I object to YOU”, Nelson replies.

“Just in general?”

Both laugh.


Nelson now up on cross-exam of Lt. Richard Zimmerman.


link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[UKslueth2018]

Police officer responsibility is to prevent the use of force of one person who can use force against others you would prevent that one person.

Witness I wouldn’t say I agree with that

 

[turaj]

Nelson is implying that he will have testimony from training experts that will say what Chauvin did was okay. Must be paying them a lot of money

 

[ElizaKate]

"In a fight for your life" why is that relevant!?

 

[UKslueth2018]

There are circumstance after a person is rendered unconscious that they are more combative after

Yes

 

[turaj]

May 25th the only one in a fight for his life was GF...not Chauvin

 

[UKslueth2018]

In a fight for your life. You as an officer are allowed to use what ever force is necessary

Yes

That can include improvisation

Yes

 

[UKslueth2018]

When a suspect is arrested it would be consistent with the trainng you received to put your knee on the shoulder

I don’t recall that

 

[UKslueth2018]

Hold for ems

I don’t agree with that. You hold them

Sometimes they held in a restrained position

Yes

Lowers theat level when in handcuff

Yes

They can still pose a threat

I suppose

That person could kick an officer, thrash around

Yes

That is also for the persons own safety

Absolutely yes

 

[MrsWatson]

He's hammering it home. Emphasizing the duty of care when you arrest someone.

Excellent on both the obvious and the subtle.

moo

 

[UKslueth2018]

Handcuff can pop open or be too big

Never seen them too big

Can give them a potential weapon if they break free

Yes

You would agree use for force is based on a lot of info

Yes

It is based on lot of info that a Body cam doesn’t see

Yes

 

[delilah]

"In a fight for your life" why is that relevant!?

That seemed a ridiculous question from nelson....

 

[ElizaKate]

Umm my WP feed's cut to the white house press room ?...

O we're back

 

[UKslueth2018]

We would be be car 112 or 110. That kind of thing.

You were made aware it was a Critical incident

Yes

 

[Shaddow]

Has Nelson watched the the video of George Floyd─when he was restrain on the ground for 9 minutes? My word...GF did not pose a threat. Neither did the crowd. Plus let's not save the guys life because he might pose a threat... OML

 

[UKslueth2018]

You self assigned to show up here

Yes

You did that to make sure scene secure

Yes

Doing things they should be in critical incident

Yes

Not permitting citizens to enter scene

Yes

Ultimately your role was limited to those couple of hours until bca arrived

Yes

It wasn’t until later you were asked to review the body cameras

Yes

And it wouldn’t be your usual role

Yes

Defence over

State back on

 

[dixiegirl1035]

This is why I think the jury may find that his actions add up to felony assault.

Are you meaning that it then moves up on ladder on the 3 charges as is he did this committing the felony, that box is checked? I'm moving there today also.

 

[UKslueth2018]

Camera footage review covers bystanders

Yes

Was there other ways for officers to deal with situation

Yes

If the crowd isn’t attacking you then they are no threat

 

[Niner]

I like his smile!

 

[UKslueth2018]

You were asked if you were a trainer

Yes

You were a student

Yes

All the training you go through every year your know the prone position is dangerous.

Absolutely that hasn’t changed