MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *officers charged* #3

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Is someone able to explain why the prosecution gets just 9 strikes, while the defense gets 15?

Just curious as to why the amount of strikes is not equal.

(I did google it, but I can't see an answer)
 
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Not following the coverage -- has either side asked any questions about experience/knowledge of fentenyl?

jmho ymmv lrr
 
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Next juror was approved.... as of 2:52 pm eastern. Woman.

I was working in garden so hit/miss as to impressions and # .

This makes 7 approved so far. #46 next up.

Someone here earlier days had tweets to consolidate , perhaps those will clarify...

ETA:

#46 already talking about *subre dd it* page she saw

ETA: :08 after the hour. State is now asking a question to #46 (to get on record MOO) as to she doesn't have time to participate. She is stating that she is going to move during trial.. is going to get a new job during trial.. but hasn't told her new employer she is potential juror.. sidebar.

Prosecution is really trying to let her go with cause. She lives with her parents... this juror is very timid MOO. Her mom wants her to move out.

My guess... she will be kicked for cause.

ETA: SIDEBAR: Juror #46 is kicked... Moving on.............due to financial hardship and she is excused.

Next up is juror #48
 
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Not following the coverage -- has either side asked any questions about experience/knowledge of fentenyl?

jmho ymmv lrr

Not that I have heard so far.
 
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Juror 48 is a man. Currently has a trip scheduled for his wife's 40th birthday scheduled for during the trial. He says it's moveable - "this takes precedence."

Court pool has described a white man with grey hair in his 40's or 50's.

Juror says he is "easygoing", has a wife and kids, served in the Army Reserve.

https://twitter.com/laurenkare11/status/1370466631726534659?s=21
 
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Defense is wanting to kick him (#48) for cause. Prosecution disagrees/judge disagreed, and prosecution is now doing voir dire on him.

Wow, prosecution understands military and is questioning him on such.

MOO this juror went to Kuwait then Irac... he was Sgt E-5 level. Juror says that the defendant having served will not influence (not sure if influence was the correct word) him.

ETA: #48 is kicked... he's out after voir dire ... back at 3:15 trial time. Judge requests both attys to come to his chambers right now.
 
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Is someone able to explain why the prosecution gets just 9 strikes, while the defense gets 15?

Just curious as to why the amount of strikes is not equal.

(I did google it, but I can't see an answer)
Here you go.
Scroll down and read "Controversy"
Peremptory challenge
 
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Well, that was fast. Judge recessing until Monday
 
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Here you go.
Scroll down and read "Controversy"
Peremptory challenge

Thanks, although that does not explain the inequity in strikes ... which is what I was looking for.

However, I have now found a paper that somewhat explains this. Apparently, a judge can decide if one side gets more strikes than the other side. This is done to try to balance the chances of a fair trial.

In this case, I would guess that the judge feels that there is a good chance of a 'wrongful' conviction (perhaps due to widespread news coverage, BLM movement, public empathy for George Floyd) so the judge is trying to balance that by allowing the defense more strikes.


(b)for a defendant clearly in the minority, asymmetric challenges in favor of the defense may be optimal but only if wrongful conviction costs are “very large” compared to hung jury costs;
https://web.utk.edu/~wneilson/IRLE-JuryBias.pdf (pg 227)
 
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The city of Minneapolis agreed to pay $27 million to George Floyd's family to settle a wrongful death lawsuit filed last July.

In the civil lawsuit, Floyd's family alleged that former Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin and the three other officers involved in Floyd's death violated his constitutional rights by using "unjustified, excessive, and illegal, and deadly use of force."

The lawsuit also accused the Minneapolis Police Department and the city of acting with "deliberate indifference" in condoning unconstitutional police practices, which were the "moving force behind George’s death."

George Floyd Family Settlement With Minneapolis
 
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not much progress made today....such young jurors...we need some age balance here...at least one more woman for today. I am still trouble by juror 9 the "excited " young woman who said "awesome" when selected.
 
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The city of Minneapolis agreed to pay $27 million to George Floyd's family to settle a wrongful death lawsuit filed last July.

In the civil lawsuit, Floyd's family alleged that former Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin and the three other officers involved in Floyd's death violated his constitutional rights by using "unjustified, excessive, and illegal, and deadly use of force."

The lawsuit also accused the Minneapolis Police Department and the city of acting with "deliberate indifference" in condoning unconstitutional police practices, which were the "moving force behind George’s death."

George Floyd Family Settlement With Minneapolis

It sure seems like that could have waiting until this trial was over. I know with the media coverage today on this that some PJ or already seated jurors are going to hear this and it is very very prejudicial. The timing is really not good. Usually the civil trial follows the State trial.
 
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The city of Minneapolis agreed to pay $27 million to George Floyd's family to settle a wrongful death lawsuit filed last July.

In the civil lawsuit, Floyd's family alleged that former Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin and the three other officers involved in Floyd's death violated his constitutional rights by using "unjustified, excessive, and illegal, and deadly use of force."

The lawsuit also accused the Minneapolis Police Department and the city of acting with "deliberate indifference" in condoning unconstitutional police practices, which were the "moving force behind George’s death."

George Floyd Family Settlement With Minneapolis

Keep in mind that it's likely the insurance company that agreed to the settlement.

(Long ago I was a SteelTownGirl!!!)

jmho ymmv lrr
 
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Keep in mind that it's likely the insurance company that agreed to the settlement.

(Long ago I was a SteelTownGirl!!!)

jmho ymmv lrr

Hi hometown girl, I’m “steel” here. :)

I wonder if the jury for Chauvin’s trial will be vetted out if they know about the civil settlement. How would they even ask a potential juror if they are aware? “Hey, what do you think of the settlement? Does it sway your judgement?”
 
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The city of Minneapolis agreed to pay $27 million to George Floyd's family to settle a wrongful death lawsuit filed last July.


In the civil lawsuit, Floyd's family alleged that former Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin and the three other officers involved in Floyd's death violated his constitutional rights by using "unjustified, excessive, and illegal, and deadly use of force."

The lawsuit also accused the Minneapolis Police Department and the city of acting with "deliberate indifference" in condoning unconstitutional police practices, which were the "moving force behind George’s death."

George Floyd Family Settlement With Minneapolis

Darn.. I do appreciate the settlement - yet to trial,may be impacted as so very many during voir dire said they looked at headlines. This WILL be a headline in the area as to trial now MOO.

I wish it had not happened prior to this trial.. but how could one know. SMDH

Damn
 
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