GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

[turaj]

Good morning trial watchers! Schleicher is the right man for the job today! Should be good!

I love Mr. S. you are right ...."right man for the job today"

 

[kittythehare]

I love Mr. S. you are right ...."right man for the job today"

I do too!

 

[kittythehare]

Reuters has link up already but they frequently do this
LIVE: Closing arguments in the Derek Chauvin trial

 

[missy1974]

What do people think about the closings? I think both are going to be pretty short and sweet...especially Nelson. I think it highly possible the jury will have the case by lunch time. Unless of course Mr. Nelson comes in with some issues with the jury over the weekend. All things being equal I guess the last two jurors selected will be let go? Or are they held somewhere in case someone gets sick etc. I think they will be let go...again risky.

Their openings were much shorter than I thought they would be.... so maybe their closings will be too? I'm hope they just keep going until they are done, jury instructions given and let them start deliberating.

 

[Katerz]

I’m so dang nervous.

 

[Chelly]

Stress-filled days ahead. Praying for a smooth closing and no chaos with the jury.

 

[Chelly]

I’m so dang nervous.

I am nervous too. Would love to see a verdict tomorrow to get this over and done with.

 

[turaj]

Good morning trial watchers! Schleicher is the right man for the job today! Should be good!

I love Mr. S. you are right ...."right man for the job today"

3,000 National Guard and 1,100 public safety officers have been dispatched across the state... for "Operation Safety Net"

This is info from live WaPo feed

Boarding up all over Twin Cities all weekend...tensions high

Stress-filled days ahead. Praying for a smooth closing and no chaos with the jury.

We have had a ton of incidents involving police shootings....looting...boarding buildings etc. here in Minneapolis and I will be relieved to know that Mr.Nelson is not moving for a mistrial before we get to closings. It was the worst weekend possible for a jury to not be sequestered.

 

[Bravo]

I would get in my car and drive out out my City for all of you since that tends to be when a verdict comes down LOL Given our present covid restrictions there is really no place to go LOL

 

[geevee]

I am nervous too. Would love to see a verdict tomorrow to get this over and done with.

Same here, Chelly. I'm wagering on Wed. or Thursday though.

 

[Chelly]

Here we go. Judge on bench instructing jury.

 

[turaj]

just heard Mn. does not have time limit on closings however I am confident they will be to the point and a reasonable length.

 

[missy1974]

I still do not understand why, after approval by the court, that the prosecution did not bring in that Chauvin was lauded and got recognition for turning a suspect on his side. To show that he knew.

Anyone .. can you think of why they didn't bring in after fighting for it and winning that they could?

As MOO so much depends on him knowing about turning on his side in recovery etc etc etc.

We have limited information about that incident, I can only assume that there was something in there that wasn't going to help the State?

Here are the two that they were allowed to bring up:

Chauvin past violence: George Floyd jury won't hear 6 force incidents

First:
In 2015, Chauvin joined other officers helping a "suicidal, intoxicated and mentally disturbed" man, prosecutors wrote. The officers struggled with him and used a stun gun.

The officers got handcuffs on the man and put him in the side-recovery position, according to their training. They called an ambulance, and Chauvin rode with the man to the hospital.

The officers were told by medical professionals that if they had waited any longer to get him help, the man could have died. The officers involved, including Chauvin, were recommended for an award.

Second:
In 2017, Chauvin went to arrest a woman at her home for allegedly trying to strangle her mother with an extension cord, prosecutors wrote. As she walked by, Chauvin grabbed one of her arms and told her she was under arrest.

She tried to pull away and Chauvin put a cuff on one wrist. As she tried to twist away, he pulled her face-down to the floor, kneeled on her body to pin her and finished handcuffing her.

When she refused to stand up, Chauvin and another officer dragged her outside, with her feet on the ground. The officers put her face-down on the sidewalk.

Though the woman wasn't resisting, prosecutors wrote, Chauvin kneeled on her, pinning her down while another officer moved a squad car closer. Chauvin told the other officer to apply a hobble restraint, which links someone's wrists and ankles.

"Chauvin's conduct in kneeling on the woman during this entire time was more force than was reasonably necessary under the circumstances," the state argued.

Chauvin's attorney, Nelson, argued in court filings that this use of force was "cleared" by the police department.

"There was nothing unreasonable or unauthorized about Mr. Chauvin's actions during this incident – nor is it at all similar to the George Floyd incident," Nelson wrote.

The prosecution has said it has body-worn video of the incident and believes it shows behavior similar to Chauvin's handling of Floyd.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

We are LIVE...........

.... I guess we didn't get to hear the back/forth on jury instructions... which are NOW being read by judge.

The state submission stayed in.

"The fact that other causes contributed to the death does not relieve the defendant of criminal liability"

 

[Chelly]

Same here, Chelly. I'm wagering on Wed. or Thursday though.

Agree @geevee , Jury must be thorough and it will take days to plow through the evidence. Tensions building hour-after-hour.

 

[missy1974]

I hope these jury instructions are filed later so we can see them for ourselves.

 

[Chelly]

Watching and listening to Judge Cahill's jury instructions, I'm thinking of all the times many of us have been here at WS over the years listening to similar words

 

[Katerz]

This may be a stupid question.. but can he be found guilty on all charges or does he have to just be found guilty on one?

 

[missy1974]

This may be a stupid question.. but can he be found guilty on all charges or does he have to just be found guilty on one?

Any or all I believe.

 

[Katerz]

Any or all I believe.

Okay thanks. Trials I’ve watched they had one murder charge then additional charges that weren’t murder. I hope the jurors start with manslaughter and work their way up.