MN - George Floyd, unarmed man killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

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Please, please let all officers involved in this crime be charged. Especially that one who’s just standing there ignoring the pleas to check man’s pulse.

I imagine the store owners who rang the police feel awful right now. They weren’t to know what would happen, it’s not wrong of them to call it in if they suspect fraud. They had no idea that the responding officer would murder George, while the others just stood stone faced.
 
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Didn't Amber Guyger bond out a few hours after being charged? Is it different in MN?
She did. It must be different or maybe he doesn’t have $50,000 yet.
I’m sure he’ll be out after his hearing next week.
 
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Justine Damond's killer got 12 1/2 years in prison. Philandro Castile's murderer walked free after having been defended by the same man representing the officer who killed George Floyd.

Buildings can be rebuilt. Target will reopen. George Floyd will never breathe again. Sandra Bland. Tamir Rice. Trayvon Martin. Breonna Taylor. Philandro Castile. Eric Garner. Michael Brown. Ahmaud Aubery. Oscar Grant. Terrence Crutcher. Walter Scott. Samuel Dubois. Sean Reed. Steve Taylor. Terrance Franklin. Ariane Mccree. Stephon Clark. Devon Bailey. Chris Whitefield. Anthony Hall. Michael Dean. Tony McDade.

Maybe if Justine Damond's family and community had felt the crushing weight of systematic discrimination bearing down on them, of the fear for every one of their family members that justice would never come, the knowledge that so many women like her had been murdered on camera and their killers walked free- just maybe they'd have felt like burning something down too.

*edit apparently my autocorrect doesn't know the word "floyd" and it's five in the morning and i've been making croutons for six hours because i'm too stressed and sad and angry to sleep

thank you so much... This 400 year tinder box still must burn sometimes. <modsnip> and it has, in itself, been allowed to burn on after alllll these years. When will we truly eradicate this systemic problem in our country?
 
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Since the beginning of 2015, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department have rendered people unconscious with neck restraints 44 times, according to an NBC News analysis of police records. Several police experts said that number appears to be unusually high.
Minneapolis police made 44 people unconscious with neck restraints
 
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Since the beginning of 2015, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department have rendered people unconscious with neck restraints 44 times, according to an NBC News analysis of police records. Several police experts said that number appears to be unusually high.
Minneapolis police made 44 people unconscious with neck restraints

"More than a dozen police officials and law enforcement experts told NBC News that the particular tactic Chauvin used — kneeling on a suspect's neck — is neither taught nor sanctioned by any police agency. A Minneapolis city official told NBC News Chauvin's tactic is not permitted by the Minneapolis police department. For most major police departments, variations of neck restraints, known as chokeholds, are highly restricted — if not banned outright
NEWSNation's police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd
The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use appears not to have been updated for more than eight years.

Minneapolis police data shows that in the bulk of use-of-force cases involving neck restraints when an individual lost consciousness, the restraint was used after a suspect fled on foot or tensed up as they were being taken into custody. Almost half of the people who lost consciousness were injured, according to the reports, which do not spell out the severity of those injuries.

Five of the cases involved assaults on officers, while several others involved domestic abuse or domestic assault cases. In most cases, there was no apparent underlying violent offense.

Watch a minute-to-minute breakdown leading up to George Floyd's deadly arrest
The Minnesota police data showed three-fifths of those subjected to neck restraints and then rendered unconscious were black. About 30 percent were white. Two were Native Americans. Almost all are male, and three-quarters were age 40 or under.

One was a 14-year-old in a domestic abuse incident that was in progress when the officer arrived. Another was a 17-year-old fleeing from a shoplifting incident. Another involved a traffic stop where the suspect was deemed "verbally non-compliant."

The on-line version of the policy manual says, "The unconscious neck restraint shall only be applied … 1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or; 2. For life saving purposes, or; 3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective."

The passage includes a date in parentheses, April 16, 2012. The front of the manual is dated July 28, 2016. "

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So let me understand - this is a recognised police tactic in Minneapolis, is that right?

So are they taught to do this?
 
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Waiting on more arrests today.
 
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"More than a dozen police officials and law enforcement experts told NBC News that the particular tactic Chauvin used — kneeling on a suspect's neck — is neither taught nor sanctioned by any police agency. A Minneapolis city official told NBC News Chauvin's tactic is not permitted by the Minneapolis police department. For most major police departments, variations of neck restraints, known as chokeholds, are highly restricted — if not banned outright
NEWSNation's police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd
The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use appears not to have been updated for more than eight years.

Minneapolis police data shows that in the bulk of use-of-force cases involving neck restraints when an individual lost consciousness, the restraint was used after a suspect fled on foot or tensed up as they were being taken into custody. Almost half of the people who lost consciousness were injured, according to the reports, which do not spell out the severity of those injuries.

Five of the cases involved assaults on officers, while several others involved domestic abuse or domestic assault cases. In most cases, there was no apparent underlying violent offense.

Watch a minute-to-minute breakdown leading up to George Floyd's deadly arrest
The Minnesota police data showed three-fifths of those subjected to neck restraints and then rendered unconscious were black. About 30 percent were white. Two were Native Americans. Almost all are male, and three-quarters were age 40 or under.

One was a 14-year-old in a domestic abuse incident that was in progress when the officer arrived. Another was a 17-year-old fleeing from a shoplifting incident. Another involved a traffic stop where the suspect was deemed "verbally non-compliant."

The on-line version of the policy manual says, "The unconscious neck restraint shall only be applied … 1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or; 2. For life saving purposes, or; 3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective."

The passage includes a date in parentheses, April 16, 2012. The front of the manual is dated July 28, 2016. "

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So let me understand - this is a recognised police tactic in Minneapolis, is that right?

So are they taught to do this?

It seems that it is a recognised police tactic in Minneapolis.

Their Use of Force policy also states, among its many conditions ....

"It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required."


5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)
http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police...yhQGBqwK5jA_vie2TfbCyyz_NlhkoaI6b35BDekN5cU20
 
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Please, please let all officers involved in this crime be charged. Especially that one who’s just standing there ignoring the pleas to check man’s pulse.

I imagine the store owners who rang the police feel awful right now. They weren’t to know what would happen, it’s not wrong of them to call it in if they suspect fraud. They had no idea that the responding officer would murder George, while the others just stood stone faced.

It was a teenage employee who called because it was protocol.
 
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This thread gives a good timeline

"We don’t know why, but with Floyd already in the back seat, Chauvin pulls him through and out the other side onto the street, where Floyd is forced facedown. The first crucial witness video begins here, with 3 officers on top of Floyd's neck, torso and legs."
-- Evan Hill, NYT
Evan Hill on Twitter
 
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This thread gives a good timeline

"We don’t know why, but with Floyd already in the back seat, Chauvin pulls him through and out the other side onto the street, where Floyd is forced facedown. The first crucial witness video begins here, with 3 officers on top of Floyd's neck, torso and legs."
-- Evan Hill, NYT
Evan Hill on Twitter

NYT video referenced by Evan Hill's twitter thread:
8 Minutes and 46 Seconds: How George Floyd Was Killed in Police Custody
 
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The store where Floyd bought cigarettes has outside security cameras. So does the gas station across the street. Have those videos been collected?
Part of what NYT assembled was from Cup foods. I think just what we have seen so far. Not sure about the gas station footage.
 
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George Floyd had previously taken to SM to encourage young people to give up gun violence/speak out against violence and kids getting shot, etc.; his girlfriend said he was as gentle as the breeze:

 
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Here .
CBP officers in Minnesota seize $900G in counterfeit bills from Chinese shipping container | Fox News

It is possible that counterfeit bills were a problem in MN, but if this article is to be believed, they were shipped from outside the country, so George Floyd was probably on the receiving end of it.


Good find, Charlot.

That has always been one of my fears, believe it or not, when you’re at the store and they take the “marker” to check your bill to make sure it’s legit...that they’ll say it’s fake, and I’ll be like “I swear officer, I didn’t know...”
 
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