MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #3

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  • #261
I'm thinking that the tests that came back were in regards to the dirt and ash they sifted through. I'm not sure what items remain to be tested, or further tested but I'm thinking that these might be actual furniture items seized, or perhaps bits of carpet or other flooring etc...

Sanner seems to think that nothing has changed and still seems to be convinced that DR remains a POI -- so WHAT might he know that we don't... which he is having difficulty proving? If they ended up finding the journal, and clippings... then I'd agree, they must be acting on a tip (new or old)... because it seems they knew just where to look for these from what I've read.
 
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I'm thinking that the tests that came back were in regards to the dirt and ash they sifted through. I'm not sure what items remain to be tested, or further tested but I'm thinking that these might be actual furniture items seized, or perhaps bits of carpet or other flooring etc...

Sanner seems to think that nothing has changed and still seems to be convinced that DR remains a POI -- so WHAT might he know that we don't... which he is having difficulty proving? If they ended up finding the journal, and clippings... then I'd agree, they must be acting on a tip (new or old)... because it seems they knew just where to look for these from what I've read.

I would think that LE would have to specify something about the box and clippings. No one could know that unless they have seen it. Therefore, I conclude there was a tip.
 
  • #264
I would think that LE would have to specify something about the box and clippings. No one could know that unless they have seen it. Therefore, I conclude there was a tip.

They found in a 4 stall garage overhead storage area (and removed for analysis), a lawnchair, patio table base, cedar chest...)....

Now -- were they looking specifically for these?? WHY? These are specific items. Were they photographed in the crime scene area at the time of the abduction or following days? What made them determine to take THESE items for analysis and was anything in that entire building NOT taken for testing? What was the basis for taking THESE items?

An article states the new investigators discovered evidence that hadn't been previously checked -- what evidence? this implies to me they re-read the tips that came in over the years, and realized they missed a step or steps.

We also don't know WHAT tests were done on WHICH items -- though -- it seems the only results in so far are on the dirt and ashes. If anyone finds anything to support that anything further has been tested conclusively and ruled out -- then I hope you post it, because this case is eating away at me! i can only imagine what its doing to Jacob's loved ones. :(
 
  • #265
Live video here from today of DR being interviewed by KSTP news - and once again in the video he makes a strange statement... "I only know what I witnessed that night." (He did not share what he witnessed.) Bizarre.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1765250.shtml
 
  • #266
Live video here from today of DR being interviewed by KSTP news - and once again in the video he makes a strange statement... "I only know what I witnessed that night." (He did not share what he witnessed.) Bizarre.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1765250.shtml

I don't think the statement was bizarre. You've only quoted one part of the interview, in fact, one part of one sentence. What is DR supposed to say? The interview, according to the video, was extensive, yet only a few clips were shown.
 
  • #267
I don't think the statement was bizarre. You've only quoted one part of the interview, in fact, one part of one sentence. What is DR supposed to say? The interview, according to the video, was extensive, yet only a few clips were shown.

Do you know what else was said? TIA
 
  • #268
I don't think the statement was bizarre. You've only quoted one part of the interview, in fact, one part of one sentence. What is DR supposed to say? The interview, according to the video, was extensive, yet only a few clips were shown.

Well, OK, he also said that maybe after they read his personal notes they will now be able to solve the case with his insights - sounds like he has a huge ego to me. I don't get why you are so defensive of DR, I can totally see why he is still considered a person of interest.

Even DR himself in that video said he can see why it seems to people like he did it.
 
  • #269
Live video here from today of DR being interviewed by KSTP news - and once again in the video he makes a strange statement... "I only know what I witnessed that night." (He did not share what he witnessed.) Bizarre.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1765250.shtml

I thought it was that video from 2005, but it's a new one!

What notes could he have and what could he have witnessed when he said that night that he just wanted to go to bed?

Very unusual and puzzling to me.
 
  • #270
He seems nice and ordinary in the video. I did notice a couple of things that were interesting to me.

When he says his family wants the case solved as much as anybody else he shakes his head no the whole time.

Later he says that if he was an outsider he would probably conclude that he did it. "If I were on the outside looking in and not know what happened that night and I would listen to the news, to certain news reports, I would be, I would probably think I did it." He seems to smile a bit and I don't understand what makes him smile about it, and he phrases the words "I did it." Sometimes I've read in statement analysis contexts that innocent persons are more unlikely to utter the phrase "I did it" even in hypothetical contexts like this but guilty persons may slip it in.
 
  • #271
DR quotes: http://www.twincities.com/ci_16200880

"It's a bit of a relief, even though it doesn't answer too many questions," Rassier told the AP on Tuesday. "But it does answer the idea that Jacob could be alive and well somewhere out there. ...

There's the hope, we all have the hope that he is out there."

Rassier said among the items taken in the search was a box of newspaper clippings about Jacob's abduction and excerpts of Rassier's journal with his thoughts about the case.

"I would not expect to get those back for a while," Rassier said.


"I had nothing to do with it," Rassier said in a recent e-mail to the AP. When asked if he had obtained a lawyer, he said no. "I have nothing to hide and still trust law enforcement may come around."
 
  • #272
DR quotes: http://www.twincities.com/ci_16200880

"It's a bit of a relief, even though it doesn't answer too many questions," Rassier told the AP on Tuesday. "But it does answer the idea that Jacob could be alive and well somewhere out there. ...

There's the hope, we all have the hope that he is out there."

That's a bit odd IMO. Whether or not he knows what happened to Jacob he knows what there is in his attic and is likely to have known way before the search was ever contemplated whether or not there is evidence that shows Jacob is dead in his lawn furniture and his notes. So if he is innocent and doesn't have any reason to suspect that some other perp used his umbrella stand to kill Jacob he would have been sure about this result, it would have been completely expected and a given for him. The fact that they didn't find Jacob's body in his attic shouldn't have changed his view of the odds that Jacob is alive or died somewhere else. If the police searched my basement and found no evidence about Madeleine McCann's death in there it wouldn't give me any particular increased hope that she is alive out there because I never expected them to find her in my basement anyway.
 
  • #273
That's a bit odd IMO. Whether or not he knows what happened to Jacob he knows what there is in his attic and is likely to have known way before the search was ever contemplated whether or not there is evidence that shows Jacob is dead in his lawn furniture and his notes. So if he is innocent and doesn't have any reason to suspect that some other perp used his umbrella stand to kill Jacob he would have been sure about this result, it would have been completely expected and a given for him. The fact that they didn't find Jacob's body in his attic shouldn't have changed his view of the odds that Jacob is alive or died somewhere else. If the police searched my basement and found no evidence about Madeleine McCann's death in there it wouldn't give me any particular increased hope that she is alive out there because I never expected them to find her in my basement anyway.

Very interesting!
 
  • #274
Due to the recent developments, the paraprofessional has been removed from DR's music class.
 
  • #275
http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1765250.shtml

<snip>Wetterling also asked Rassier if he had been playing a joke on the three boys and the joke went too far. During the meeting, Rassier told Wetterling what he saw the night Jacob went missing and again told her he had nothing to do with her son's disappearance

Rassier says 'I Only Know What I Witnessed' about Jacob Wetterling's Disappearance <snip>


WHAT??!?! Is it just me, or is this the first time he's admitted to seeing or witnessing something the night of the abduction?? Wow. I sure hope there is some kind of statement in the initial police report to back this up.

So, therefore, he was potentially OUTSIDE the very moment Jacob was kidnapped? He either saw or heard something, yet chose to go to bed. :banghead:
 
  • #276
http://www.twincities.com/ci_16200880

Rassier said among the items taken in the search was a box of newspaper clippings about Jacob's abduction and excerpts of Rassier's journal with his thoughts about the case.
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Wonder if they glean anything from doing a handwriting analysis?
 
  • #277
http://www.twincities.com/ci_16200880
"It's a bit of a relief, even though it doesn't answer too many questions," Rassier told the AP on Tuesday. "But it does answer the idea that Jacob could be alive and well somewhere out there. ... "

So tell me why its a RELIEF? If he is completely innocent of all involvement, then why is he feeling RELIEF? Wouldn't he have known their search would turn up empty well before the results were even back??
 
  • #278
http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1765250.shtml?cat=1

Watch the video -- this is DR on video giving an interview over the search results. My perception of the man following viewing this video is this:

- He MAY know more than he has ever shared (perhaps he himself saw the gunman, and perhaps he was threatened into silence?Hey, stranger things have happened!). Maybe he saw something we don't know about - that he reported. He indicates that in reading his journal perhaps police will find information to help them solve this case - something they may not have believed. What could he be referring to? It seems to me that this indicates that he has shared something with police which they aren't buying, and he hopes that the fact he wrote it down and they've now found it might help solidify for them what he told them.

- Where is is concern for Jacob?? He presents to me even now, 21 years later, as aloof!! He doesn't seem sad or even emotionally involved on any level - this is of concern! Short of Asperger's Syndrome or Autism which can affect one's ability to socially relate to others -- how is he seemingly so very detached?

- His eye contact in the video concerns me. He rarely blinks, he keeps his eye contact focussed, and trained on the interviewer, hardly looking away. This is of concern to me because I have been trained that when people stare during interviews, with a steely gaze, and don't blink or look away, they are often not being totally honest -- many think that by looking away, or not holding eye contact it might signal a lie -- so to cover their tracks, they glare / try to maintain total eye contact. I've seen this behavior many times in my career and its important non verbal behavior!

In the video, he declares people are apt to think, "I did it". Watch his eyes, and facial expression. He raises his eyebrows, and his pitch heightens. Red flag to me. I can't put my finger on why just yet - but this was very interesting to watch and rewatch -- something just isn't right about it!

I'm not a profiler, or LE of any sort -- but I do agree that its odd that he thinks his journal might offer insight and clues that police may have missed initially. This to me almost says that he HOPES they figure it out -- and he seems to HOPE they THANK him in the end for solving this based on his journal -- He seems to want to play the hero (my perception) -- why now, when at the time, he could not have cared LESS about Jacob?? Does he want to be caught? Have info pried out of him somehow? Is he bragging that police are stupid and he is smarter than LE? Is he fantasizing perhaps about some part of having this solved (eg: a relief not to be persued any more, relief to be caught if guilty? relief that a threat to his own family / self is now removed if the criminal is caught?)...

- Not once did I hear him use Jacob's name. Not the family's name. Its a flat line interview, lacking in affect! If he is innocent, where is his anger that this crime has had this impact on him? Where is his outrage? Were this me, I'd be fuming by now. I'd certainly understand that LE were considering me for the crime -- but I'd be hopping mad and you bet it would show through on national television, even if I were polite about it!!

Its only my opinion. My assessment of the man's interview. I'm not declaring he is guilty or innocent -- but -- rather, just pointing out what I personally view as red flags.
 
  • #279
I just never seem to understand it when people say that an abducted child could be alive and well.
 
  • #280
http://www.twincities.com/ci_16200880
"It's a bit of a relief, even though it doesn't answer too many questions," Rassier told the AP on Tuesday. "But it does answer the idea that Jacob could be alive and well somewhere out there. ... "

So tell me why its a RELIEF? If he is completely innocent of all involvement, then why is he feeling RELIEF? Wouldn't he have known their search would turn up empty well before the results were even back??
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It doesn't answer the idea that Jacob could be alive and well out there...
 
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