MN - Justine Damond, 40, fatally shot by Minneapolis LE, 15 July 2017 #3

[SouthAussie]

With all due respect, Officer Harrity is still on the MPLS police force ...

Yes, that is what 'standing member' means here in Australia .. a continuing member, still on the force. My apologies if that was not understood.

 

[SouthAussie]

Why wasn’t the dash camera on? Maybe that’s not a crime but I’d think those cameras are there for a reason.

No body or dash cameras.
As Justine’s dad said they were rookies.

Apparently, most dash cameras only go on when the emergency lights are on, and in going to an assault situation they likely would not put the emergency lights on.


Quinn said most dash cameras are connected to the squad's emergency lighting system and only turn on when they're activated.
He said most officers going into an assault call would keep the lights off.
"If you turn the lights and siren on to a call like that, do you stop the assault in progress? Probably. Do you catch the people involved in it? Probably not. They're much more likely to get away," Quinn said.
Expert: Body cameras should have recorded Australian woman's shooting

 

[they'll get you]

Our personal dashcams are there to capture anything, anytime, all the time.
Cops often ask us to view our dashcams to help them solve a crime.
IMO that’s crazy for cops not to have theirs on.

 

[SouthAussie]

deleted (I was asking about the cyclist's video, but I just found an article about his testimony)

 

[ilovewings]

One of Justine's friends is an ABC journalist, usually doing wildlife shows. In honour of Justine, he put together this 30 min Australian Story episode which was aired on Aussie TV.
If you want to know who Justine was, if you want to see what happened behind the scenes, the joy, the pain, the anger, the confusion .... this is the video to watch.

Of importance in this video is the segment about the way the police are being trained. 162 killings by police - 2 accountability court cases. "The system is sick".

Without Rhyme or Reason

I watched that video with profound sadness--- i learned that there was adequate lighting that night so the police should have clearly seen her- and would have known she did not have a weapon and did not represent any type of threat to them---- This case will stay with me for a very long time---

 

[mickey2942]

I watched that video with profound sadness--- i learned that there was adequate lighting that night so the police should have clearly seen her- and would have known she did not have a weapon and did not represent any type of threat to them---- This case will stay with me for a very long time---

Think twice about any interactions with police officers. The way they hire has changed, the training has changed...

 

[SouthAussie]

Think twice about any interactions with police officers. The way they hire has changed, the training has changed...

It doesn't seem wise either to team two less experienced patrol officers together. Could be seen as a not very smart business practise.
The newbies could learn a lot from being teamed with more experienced officers. And the experienced officers could utilise the younger officers to better assist them if foot-chases and such are required. (A few presumptions used here, but I think most would understand what I generally mean.)

 

[mickey2942]

It doesn't seem wise either to team two less experienced patrol officers together. Could be seen as a not very smart business practise.
The newbies could learn a lot from being teamed with more experienced officers. And the experienced officers could utilise the younger officers to better assist them if foot-chases and such are required. (A few presumptions used here, but I think most would understand what I generally mean.)

I think that a lot of experienced officers, with 20 years plus, have seen the changes, and retire. They can go work on a 2nd pension, working for federal jobs, TSA, whatever...or private security.

 

[SouthAussie]

New article ....

6 things we still want to know after the trial of Mohamed Noor

 

[ilovewings]

It doesn't seem wise either to team two less experienced patrol officers together. Could be seen as a not very smart business practise.
The newbies could learn a lot from being teamed with more experienced officers. And the experienced officers could utilise the younger officers to better assist them if foot-chases and such are required. (A few presumptions used here, but I think most would understand what I generally mean.)

You make an excellent point

 

[ilovewings]

New article ....

6 things we still want to know after the trial of Mohamed Noor

Great questions and i hope there is follow up so we get some answers; i would also like to know why the issue of how many times Noor fired his gun at and into Justine never
became an issue at trial. I think it would have been important for the jury to hear that Noor fired more than once--- do we know how many shots were fired?

 

[ilovewings]

They sure were looking for anything to make Justine look bad

Barnette ... told another officer that Ruszczyk was "probably a drunk or a drug addict" after she was killed.
Toxicology tests showed Ruszczyk did not have any alcohol or drugs in her system.
Noor trial: Prosecution raps police supervisor who shut off bodycam

Believe me if the defense could have found a way to 'dirty her up" they would have done it but there was nothing they could use to do that. She was the an absolute innocent victim- she was a wonderful person, no drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. That Barnette biotch should lose her job.

 

[Via Marple]

I hope some of the answers will come out during the civil trial.

But the judge clarified that she wasn't joking when she called it a conspiracy: "If 20 officers are meeting in the basement to decide not to tell what they know to the county attorney's office, that is a problem. But I don't think it's Mr. Noor's problem."

Then MPD have a problem. If they had discussed about a cover-up, how do I know if they have been telling the truth since... Including at Noor's trial? I have no confidence in their integrity after all these.

New article ....

6 things we still want to know after the trial of Mohamed Noor

Great questions and i hope there is follow up so we get some answers; i would also like to know why the issue of how many times Noor fired his gun at and into Justine never
became an issue at trial. I think it would have been important for the jury to hear that Noor fired more than once--- do we know how many shots were fired?

 

[K_Z]

Mpls. reaches $20M settlement with Ruszczyk family

Minneapolis reaches $20 million settlement with Justine Damond family

 

[Gardenista]

Mpls. reaches $20M settlement with Ruszczyk family

Minneapolis reaches $20 million settlement with Justine Damond family

WOW

 

[Rocco]

I hope some of the answers will come out during the civil trial.

But the judge clarified that she wasn't joking when she called it a conspiracy: "If 20 officers are meeting in the basement to decide not to tell what they know to the county attorney's office, that is a problem. But I don't think it's Mr. Noor's problem."

Then MPD have a problem. If they had discussed about a cover-up, how do I know if they have been telling the truth since... Including at Noor's trial? I have no confidence in their integrity after all these.

I don't think anyone else does either. Barnette is still employed there.

 

[wary]

Mpls. reaches $20M settlement with Ruszczyk family

Minneapolis reaches $20 million settlement with Justine Damond family

In a way it’s good, but it would have been good to drag their mistakes—downright crimes—out into the open, via a trial.

 

[Rocco]

With all due respect, Officer Harrity is still on the MPLS police force and I have no reason whatsoever to believe he lied in his testimony.



JMO

SBM

The jury obviously believed him too, and they did not believe Noor.

Harrity testified he immediately drew his gun and held it to his ribs pointing downward, he said.

"When the prosecution pressed Harrity on why he didn’t raise his gun after being startled by the thump, he said he was taught you can’t shoot at something before you’ve identified a threat and a target. In this case, he said he had not analyzed the threat before Noor shot Ruszczyk Damond and to deadly force at that point would have been premature."

Noor testified that Harrity was having trouble getting his gun out of the holster so Noor had to shoot her in order to to save Harrity.

Also:

"Ex-Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor testified Friday that 911 caller Justine Ruszczyk said nothing as she approached his police squad, contradicting testimony by his former partner about what happened in the alley the night Noor shot Ruszczyk.

Officer Matthew Harrity, who sat in the driver's seat as Ruszczyk approached the squad from the back, testified earlier that he'd heard the woman "murmur" or make some kind of sound as she came up on the squad."

 

[ilovewings]

WOW

Double WOW-- and good for them

i am guessing they are self insured up to a certain amount
with excess coverage above that ---it is clear they just wanted to end this
as quickly as possible---

 

[turaj]

Mpls. reaches $20M settlement with Ruszczyk family

Minneapolis reaches $20 million settlement with Justine Damond family

Just saw that council announced this...wow...fast but this speaks to how they need to get this out of the news. Good for the family and I hope life gets easier for this impressive family.