MN- Minneapolis, mass shooting at church, multiple fatalities, possible explosive device found. Aug 2025

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  • #242
This guy was just all over the place with the mental illness. I am trying to put reason to his actions where likely no reason is to be found. Citing Nazi rhetoric seems to go against everything that this guy built his life around. None of it makes sense.

I agree with the premise that most of these school shooter types are of the "going down in a blaze of glory" mindset. It seems that its is no longer a simple as one wishing to commit suicide but a desire to go out of this world making sure that everyone knows their name. There seems to be so many issues at work here. I don't know how society combats all of these.
Bbm.
Was also wondering if his family was devout Catholic ?
Only because depending on their belief system, they might have been loving and peaceful people and attended church regularly and he was starting to rebel against the upbringing ?
It would appear the parents and siblings were supportive of Robin.
I haven't been able to find out otherwise.
Not everyone has the privilege of a good or loving family.
My point is there was no excuse for such actions.

This murderer is coming across as an injustice collector who felt rage against others.
Why in god's name target little children, though ?

If the shooter idolized past rampage killers that is a huge problem to me , due to the way the media treats this -- almost like the criminal is a celebrity.
Like, here are photos of the killer-- past and present, the manifesto, the journals/videos, etc.
This inspires losers to copycat such foul deeds.

People on a downward spiral who feel the only way to make their point is to harm and kill others !
The worst of the worst to target innocents.
Agree with other posters that we know more bout the killer than the victims and that's sad.
Praying for the injured kids for physical and emotional recovery.
Imo.
 
  • #243
Here’s one.

Seems like this person has been profoundly mentally ill for a very long time. As many times as this paradigm plays itself out I am still just stunned that there is no way to ensure these folks get the help they need nor to prevent people who are exhibiting these obvious red flags from purchasing guns. It seems stupid that I am even posting this it is so obvious.
 
  • #244
Here’s one.

This is what I don’t get. If they were overtly antisemitic to the degree that is being reported, why did they choose to kill catholic children and not Jewish children?

To me, all that Hail Hitler stuff is to garner shock and attention. I really don’t think they believe it. If they did, they’d be a Neo Nazi. However, due to their gender issue the Neo Nazi’s would not be putting out the welcome mat for them. And…they would have found themselves in a Concentration Camp during WW2 for the same reason.

They have NO CONVICTION for their cause. All that “stuff” is attention seeking garbage. They want a reaction. They didn’t get it. They have it now and they can’t even enjoy it.

What a waste of air and space.

MOO
 
  • #245
Where is the information coming from that he had his own apartment?

An earlier article upthread said a neighbour (of the parents) said three people lived in the house, parents and a son. I assumed it was Robin.

here's a link to the info about his apartment. i don't think he lived in this apartment with his family... but, i could be wrong.



also, i noticed this report about fbi investigating a florida location


jmo

eta; i think father or father and mother owned a home not far from church/school. i don't have a link for this bit of info but i'll try to find one.
 
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Live on the local news CBS/WCCO --

An 11 year old survivor walked up to the news crew and said boldly, I have something to say.

With his grandfather's blessing, the news interviewed him. He talked about the fear. And bravery. A classmate five on top of him to protect him. That classmate was shot in the back. The young man said he's paying for him and all the victims in the hospital. Such courage.


JMO
No child anywhere should have to live like this.
 
  • #247
"According to a senior law enforcement official, the shooter, Robin Westman, visited the church weeks ago under the pretext of wanting to reconnect with the Catholic faith at the school, which the shooter once attended...Investigators believe that, from this visit, Westman created the detailed, hand-drawn diagram of the church’s interior.
Because Mass had started, however, Westman may have been locked out, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said.
"https://cnn.com/us/live-news/minneapolis-annunciation-catholic-school-shooting-08-28-25#cmevixzym00003b6vhw1yt4ny
 
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Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman complained about being 'tired of being trans' and had been 'brainwashed' in a chilling manifesto before killing two children in a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church.

Court records seen by the Daily Mail reveal Westman, 23, was previously known as Robert, before changing name in 2020.

According to court papers filed in Dakota County, Minnesota from the time, Westman wanted to the name Robin to reflect that '[identifying] as a woman'.

But in a handwritten manifesto shared by the shooter in a YouTube video before opening fire, Westman appeared to question that decision.

'I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,' the killer wrote in a scrawled cryptic message.

'I can’t cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported.
 
  • #249
SBM. It sounds like a death cult. Worshipping mass murderers and aspiring to get on the list. That is their life achievement. This mindset is a societal disease.
"Ode to Joy" is one of the most beautiful hymns for Christians, with lyrics set to the music of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.

The shooters' "ode" is satanic and he directed that evil toward innocent Christian children.
 
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I’m not sure why the person is referred to as he/they when she is, legally, a female. It’s disappointing to see people here - a place that prides itself on being a place for reasoned, civil discussion - bickering about he/they/she instead of the actual slaughter of children. By court order, she is female. If you want to refer to her by her non-legal gender, virtually any other platform or news article comment section will meet your needs.

whatever pronoun fits for murderer... that's the one i choose... and that seems quite civil and reasoned. and, it appears the murderer wasn't too happy with being trans per writings posted above. it seems that instead of the murderer reversing trans status... he opted for murder of innocents.

my respect is for the victims and their loved ones.

jmo
 
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"Ode to Joy" is one of the most beautiful hymns for Christians, with lyrics set to the music of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.

The shooters' "ode" is satanic and he directed that evil toward innocent Christian children.
The more we learn about this sickening act, the more evil comes out.
 
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Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman complained about being 'tired of being trans' and had been 'brainwashed' in a chilling manifesto before killing two children in a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church.

Court records seen by the Daily Mail reveal Westman, 23, was previously known as Robert, before changing name in 2020.

According to court papers filed in Dakota County, Minnesota from the time, Westman wanted to the name Robin to reflect that '[identifying] as a woman'.

But in a handwritten manifesto shared by the shooter in a YouTube video before opening fire, Westman appeared to question that decision.

'I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,' the killer wrote in a scrawled cryptic message.

'I can’t cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported.
BBM.

Why would they think someone would report them for cutting there hair and and identifying as a male again?;
 
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Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman complained about being 'tired of being trans' and had been 'brainwashed' in a chilling manifesto before killing two children in a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church.

Court records seen by the Daily Mail reveal Westman, 23, was previously known as Robert, before changing name in 2020.

According to court papers filed in Dakota County, Minnesota from the time, Westman wanted to the name Robin to reflect that '[identifying] as a woman'.

But in a handwritten manifesto shared by the shooter in a YouTube video before opening fire, Westman appeared to question that decision.

'I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,' the killer wrote in a scrawled cryptic message.

'I can’t cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported.

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I thought this might be the case.
 
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"Ode to Joy" is one of the most beautiful hymns for Christians, with lyrics set to the music of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.

In fact - it is an anthem of European Union.
 
  • #255
evidently, this murderer had his own apartment... did he have a job, was he a student. how was he able to purchase all the weapons and ammo as i doubt they were cheap. did he have some sort of financial assistance paying for his lifestyle... whatever that was.

jmo
Do we know that the murderer had an apartment or did his mother live in an apartment and the shooter lived there with her? If the shooter had an apartment, then I agree, we need to find out who paid the rent and utilities, etc. It doesn't sound like the shooter held down a job, other than three months at a marijuana dispensary. Where has the shooter worked, if anywhere, since graduating high school? Were his parents enabling him to live like this?
 
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whatever pronoun fits for murderer... that's the one i choose... and that seems quite civil and reasoned. and, it appears the murderer wasn't too happy with being trans per writings posted above. it seems that instead of the murderer reversing trans status... he opted for murder of innocents.

my respect is for the victims and their loved ones.

jmo

It’s not a “respect the victims” issue. There’s a court order.
 
  • #257
" 'Pray for the victims and their families',
Westman concluded her rambling note,
despite having a rifle magazine labeled
'For the children, hahahahahahaha'.

Earlier in the letter,
Westman wrote about struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts for years
- which were apparently aggravated
by the belief
she was dying of cancer from vaping." :rolleyes:

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  • #258
This is what I don’t get. If they were overtly antisemitic to the degree that is being reported, why did they choose to kill catholic children and not Jewish children?
<Snipped by me>

The shooter was anti-Christian, that's why the shooter chose to kill Catholic Christian children.
 
  • #259
I think the shooter was anti everything. That's the problem right there.
 
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In fact - it is an anthem of European Union.
Beautiful choice for an anthem. Hymn (vocal version) written in 1907 by Henry van Dyke.

The point here in relation to this murderer is that the Ode to Joy is full of light and love and beauty and goodness and faith that is the total opposite of what the murderer stood for with the murderer's "ode to death" and destruction.
 

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