MN- Minneapolis, mass shooting at church, multiple fatalities, possible explosive device found. Aug 2025

  • #641
Wondering if the VP of the USA JD VANCE twitter/X account is an approved source here?
 
  • #642
Wondering if the VP of the USA JD VANCE twitter/X account is an approved source here?

Yes, as long as it's directly relevant to the case under discussion.
 
  • #643
They didn't have any automatic weapons, the pistol and rifle were semiautomatic. In order to purchase them. As of right now they haven't released any information on when and where the guns were purchased. IMO I don't think it would seem odd that he bought three of them. Some people will buy multiple guns at the same time to save money doing them all on one background check instead of having to pay for separate ones. They would ask generic questions, most gun shop employees don't delve too much into questions outside of what the buyer is looking for, what caliber, how does it feel etc
Nevertheless, it’s important information about this case. The public has a right to know. It’s scary to realize it’s so easy for a mentally unbalanced person to have such easy access to multiple weapons.

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  • #644

Here’s a link to Minnesota Public Radio’s article about Vance’s visit to the children’s hospital and church yesterday. It includes many quotes from the parents of dead and injured kids appealing to Vance to take action.
 
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"In addition to describing the girlfriend as a “catalyst” and the “root of my suffering,” Westman also admitted in one entry that Westman pointed a gun at the back of the ex’s head in the weeks before the shooting."

This is horrifying. For those wondering if there were signs, yes, it certainly appears there were signs that just went ignored.
 
  • #648

"In addition to describing the girlfriend as a “catalyst” and the “root of my suffering,” Westman also admitted in one entry that Westman pointed a gun at the back of the ex’s head in the weeks before the shooting."

This is horrifying. For those wondering if there were signs, yes, it certainly appears there were signs that just went ignored.
This article is terrifying. What a sick mind. Has this Aby person spoken out? I’m sure Aby was interviewed by LE.
 
  • #649

"In addition to describing the girlfriend as a “catalyst” and the “root of my suffering,” Westman also admitted in one entry that Westman pointed a gun at the back of the ex’s head in the weeks before the shooting."

This is horrifying. For those wondering if there were signs, yes, it certainly appears there were signs that just went ignored.
I wonder if RW really did point the gun at the ex's head? Was it reported? Not sure I believe any of RW's words. Treading carefully here. The ex is potentially a victim here too - at a minimum - a victim of the words of a sick person.

JMO
 
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I wonder if RW really did point the gun at the ex's head? Was it reported? Not sure I believe any of RW's words. Treading carefully here. The ex is potentially a victim here too - at a minimum - a victim of the words of a sick person.

JMO
It's entirely possible the murderer made the whole thing up. However, this person did successfully demonstrate to the entire world what they were capable of, and it was a million times worse than pointing a gun at a girlfriend's head. So, there's that as well.

Is the ex a victim as well? In my opinion, 100%.
 
  • #651
The title deranged transgender shooter is interesting. How come deranged heterosexual shooter isn't used in the majority of shootings?
Is stops readers being confused when the she pronoun is used as it makes it clear that the shooter was not a biological woman.
 
  • #652
It's entirely possible the murderer made the whole thing up. However, this person did successfully demonstrate to the entire world what they were capable of, and it was a million times worse than pointing a gun at a girlfriend's head. So, there's that as well.

Is the ex a victim as well? In my opinion, 100%.
The murderer's own writings indicate that the girlfriend had no idea what they were planning. If anything, the girlfriend was in the way.
 
  • #653
The murderer's own writings indicate that the girlfriend had no idea what they were planning. If anything, the girlfriend was in the way.
I was agreeing with @steeltowngirl who said "a victim of the words of a sick person".
 
  • #654

Statements from Leah & Harry Kaiser yesterday. They are parents of Lydia Kaiser who was shot and remains hospitalized. Harry is also gym teacher at the school.
 
  • #655
The murderer's own writings indicate that the girlfriend had no idea what they were planning. If anything, the girlfriend was in the way.
Wow. I just read the article. I didn't think I could have more disdain for this shooter than I did, but this article is horrible. I don't think there was a reason to print it other than sensationalism and I hope this person has support and privacy now this has hit the media for public consumption.

I wish I hadn't read his hateful words and invaded this victim's privacy.

I keep thinking of degranged people who smear their feces on the floors, walls, etc. That is what his writings remind me of. Literal crap. Sorry to be gross.

jmopinion
 
  • #656
It's entirely possible the murderer made the whole thing up. However, this person did successfully demonstrate to the entire world what they were capable of, and it was a million times worse than pointing a gun at a girlfriend's head. So, there's that as well.

Is the ex a victim as well? In my opinion, 100%.
Agree 100%

Hideous murderer probably did point the gun at the ex. Thought nothing of slaughtering 2 kids, injuring many others, some gravely.

I just hope the young girl that had part of her skull removed can make a full recovery, but there will likely be lasting life-altering damage. The survivors will all suffer emotionally as well as physically.

So we grieve, and move forward.
Until the next time.

JMO
 
  • #657
I wonder if RW really did point the gun at the ex's head? Was it reported? Not sure I believe any of RW's words. Treading carefully here. The ex is potentially a victim here too - at a minimum - a victim of the words of a sick person.

JMO

Per the article, the shooter pointed a weapon at the back of her head. To see how it would feel. Only felt fear thst she might turn around and see.

She is indeed a victim. And a target. The shooter would have killed her, except it would have interfered with the larger massacre.

Such loathing. It's incomprehensible.

JMO
 
  • #658
The perpetrator had zero feelings for others. They wanted to know how it felt to kill, similar to Kohberger.
 
  • #659
Agree 100%

Hideous murderer probably did point the gun at the ex. Thought nothing of slaughtering 2 kids, injuring many others, some gravely.

I just hope the young girl that had part of her skull removed can make a full recovery, but there will likely be lasting life-altering damage. The survivors will all suffer emotionally as well as physically.

So we grieve, and move forward.
Until the next time.

JMO
And there will be a next time.
 
  • #660
Nevertheless, it’s important information about this case. The public has a right to know. It’s scary to realize it’s so easy for a mentally unbalanced person to have such easy access to multiple weapons.

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He had to go through two different background checks, one at the local/state level and then another one at the federal level. Had anything popped up he would have been denied. The supporting systems need to be fixed.

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