MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[LAborn]

It's very odd to hear Kash Patel and others blame the victim for having a legal firearm--the same people who say, "Arm every teacher!" or "Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!!".

 

[tlcya]

DBM as it strays OT, apologies.

 

[Inthedetails]

self-deleting as veered off topic

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

A license to carry a firearm, or other terms used, a concealed carry permit, etc. does not give a person a "right to carry a gun wherever". There are restrictions, schools, courthouses, government buildings, bars, and numerous other locations, varying from state to state. So it's simply not true that a person in the U.S. as per the Constitution has a right to carry a gun wherever.

Ok, but Alex Pretti wasn't in a "school, courthouse, government buildings, bars, and numerous other locations." So how is that relevant to this thread?

 

[tlcya]

bringing it back to our victim for a moment.

Pretti was a U.S. citizen, born in Illinois.
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Pretti lived in a four-unit condominium building about 2 miles from where he was shot. Neighbors described him as quiet and warmhearted.
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Pretti lived alone and worked long hours as a nurse, but he was not a loner, his neighbors said, and would sometimes have friends over.
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A competitive bicycle racer who lavished care on his new Audi, Pretti had also been deeply attached to his dog, who died about a year ago.
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"He hated that, you know, people were just trashing the land," Susan Pretti said. "He was an outdoorsman. He took his dog everywhere he went. You know, he loved this country, but he hated what people were doing to it."
Who is Alex Pretti? What we know about man killed by federal officers in Minneapolis

The victim is 37‑year‑old Alex Jeffrey Pretti of Minneapolis, a registered nurse who worked in the intensive care unit for the Veterans Administration. Pretti graduated in 2006 from Green Bay Preble High School where he was an honor roll student, competed in state solo and ensemble and was part of the cast in the Preble Players comedy play "Radio Daze" in May 2006.
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Dr. Aasma Shaukat, a professor at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, described Pretti as the "kindest, sweetest human." He was one of her research assistants
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...eapolis-minnesota-shooting-today/88343275007/

 

[LAborn]

At public universities in our state all faculty, staff and students who carry have to leave their firearms in their cars, they are not allowed to bring their concealed carry into the buildings. At some of our state universities, the boards of trustees don't even allow cc to be left in their cars, they're not allowed on the campus grounds at all.

Just so we stay on the topic, Alex was in public, not at a university campus. Gun organizations, officials and experts have already stated he had every right to conceal carry.

 

[Sarahlou]

It's very odd to hear Kash Patel and others blame the victim for having a legal firearm--the same people who say, "Arm every teacher!" or "Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!!".

Exactly. Strange, eh? Their opinion changes depending on how it suits them.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I do not deny this fact, never did. In my opinion the man made a poor choice to do so that day, and under the totality of circumstances. It is also my opinion that had he not had that firearm on his person, and inserted himself in to the incident, he would likely be alive today.

In my opinion, his firearm in this case played a critical role in how the event unfolded, and will likely be a point of consideration in the investigation.

inserted himself in to the incident?
Statt.... i really recommend that you look at those videos.
That "good samaratin" was assisting two women who were violently pushed by the agents.

And of course, I also highly recommend you review the videos that the gun was wrestled from him, once he was pepper sprayed and down on the ground.

I do know how easy it is to rely on LE language to defend or deny LE actions... but pretty sure the images outrank the words.

 

[PrairieWind]

Just so we stay on the topic, Alex was in public, not at a university campus. Gun organizations, officials and experts have already stated he had every right to conceal carry.

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

 

[tlcya]

2 hours and 6 minutes ago
"The Court’s patience is at an end,” Chief Judge Patrick Schiltz wrote. “Accordingly, the Court will order Todd Lyons, the Acting Director of ICE, to appear personally before the Court and show cause why he should not be held in contempt of Court.”

Schlitz wrote that it is "extraordinary" to order the head of a federal agency appear before a court, "but the extent of ICE’s violation of court orders is likewise extraordinary, and lesser measures have been tried and failed."
Acting ICE director must appear in court over failure to reply to court orders

 

[LAborn]

inserted himself in to the incident?
Statt.... i really recommend that you look at those videos.
That "good samaratin" was assisting two women who were violently pushed by the agents.

And of course, I also highly recommend you review the videos that the gun was wrestled from him, once he was pepper sprayed and down on the ground.

I do know how easy it is to rely on LE language to defend or deny LE actions... but pretty sure the images outrank the words.

I recommend he looks at this video from a person inside their car right next to the incident. Not only does the ICE agent violently shove the woman, he also point blank pepper sprayed both the woman and Alex for being there. It's insane the level of brutality and injustice!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qnoo1z/pov_from_inside_the_car_parked_right_next_to

 

[Summerliz03]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

Can you please show in that article where it says he didn’t have his permit on him? I read it twice and never saw anything that said that. You stated it like it was a fact.

Edit, I apologize, I did see the quote in the article about him not having ID.

 

[PrairieWind]

I consider Minneapolis to be the victim so hope they don't give anything.

MOO.

I certainly dont see it that way. ICE has requested that Minneapolis police assist with crowd control in these situations. The Mayor wont allow it. They aren't asking MPD to help them with the immigration arrests, just to keep the peace. Isn't that a police department's job? Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.

 

[LAborn]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

Again, gun experts from MN have already settled this, he was carrying legally.

 

[Marantz4250b]

inserted himself in to the incident?
Statt.... i really recommend that you look at those videos.
That "good samaratin" was assisting two women who were violently pushed by the agents.

And of course, I also highly recommend you review the videos that the gun was wrestled from him, once he was pepper sprayed and down on the ground.

I do know how easy it is to rely on LE language to defend or deny LE actions... but pretty sure the images outrank the words.

Agreed, he did nothing of the sort.

He in no way "inserted" himself into the incident. He went to the aid of someone who had just been violently assaulted.

Officials of the state are not employed or empowered to assault perfectly innocent citizens going about their lawful business. It was not an "incident" in the sense of it being one they were lawfully allowed to create. And, even if it were, he wasn't interfering with what they were doing. He was helping someone who had just been assaulted and was possibly injured.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

In my opinion very little, if nothing at all actually, however, the presence of the firearm after he inserted himself in to the situation, in my opinion, played a part in the events that unfolded, and also, in my opinion, it was a poor judgement call on his behalf.

he inserted himself in to the situation.....
I know you have latched onto this phrase.... but I am really really encouraging you to think more about the Bill of Rights.

the Bill of Rights, as part of the U.S. Constitution, outranks federal laws, state laws, and all other government actions. Under the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) of the Constitution, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, meaning any federal statute that violates the Bill of Rights can be declared unconstitutional and invalid by the federal courts.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I recommend he looks at this video from a person inside their car right next to the incident. Not only does the ICE agent violently shove the woman, he also point blank pepper sprayed both the woman and Alex for being there. It's insane the level of brutality and injustice!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qnoo1z/pov_from_inside_the_car_parked_right_next_to

Wow. These cowboys didn't just kill Pretti, they put all these bystanders lives at risk as well.

 

[sds71]

Alex Pretti broke rib in confrontation with federal agents a week before death, sources say​

DHS did not respond to questions about Pretti’s previous encounter or more details about efforts to collect information on protesters.

The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

Pretti later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back – an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene.

“That day, he thought he was going to die,” said the source.

Pretti was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records reviewed by CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs

 

[MrsWatson]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

That statement came from DHS. They've lied about so many aspects of this situation, I find their statement highly dubuious. at best.

From the article:

After the shooting, DHS shared a photo of a firearm on social media, which they said belonged to Pretti. The agency also said he had two magazines of ammunition and no ID.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

I've just watched a video where they mention that very point.

Firstly, it's irrelevant because they weren't tackling him because he was armed as they didn't know that he was until they had pepper sprayed him and beaten the crap out of him.

Secondly, yes, it's a requirement to carry ID when you are carrying a gun. Do you know what the penalty for that is in MN? I'll let you look it up for yourself - as a clue, it's not summary execution by the side of the road!

And, from what I understand, not having ID doesn't make the carry unlawful. The offence is one of not having ID, not unlawful carry!