MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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inserted himself in to the incident?
Statt.... i really recommend that you look at those videos.
That "good samaratin" was assisting two women who were violently pushed by the agents.

And of course, I also highly recommend you review the videos that the gun was wrestled from him, once he was pepper sprayed and down on the ground.

I do know how easy it is to rely on LE language to defend or deny LE actions... but pretty sure the images outrank the words.
Agreed, he did nothing of the sort.

He in no way "inserted" himself into the incident. He went to the aid of someone who had just been violently assaulted.

Officials of the state are not employed or empowered to assault perfectly innocent citizens going about their lawful business. It was not an "incident" in the sense of it being one they were lawfully allowed to create. And, even if it were, he wasn't interfering with what they were doing. He was helping someone who had just been assaulted and was possibly injured.
 
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In my opinion very little, if nothing at all actually, however, the presence of the firearm after he inserted himself in to the situation, in my opinion, played a part in the events that unfolded, and also, in my opinion, it was a poor judgement call on his behalf.
he inserted himself in to the situation.....
I know you have latched onto this phrase.... but I am really really encouraging you to think more about the Bill of Rights.

the Bill of Rights, as part of the U.S. Constitution, outranks federal laws, state laws, and all other government actions. Under the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) of the Constitution, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, meaning any federal statute that violates the Bill of Rights can be declared unconstitutional and invalid by the federal courts.
 
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Alex Pretti broke rib in confrontation with federal agents a week before death, sources say​


DHS did not respond to questions about Pretti’s previous encounter or more details about efforts to collect information on protesters.

The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

Pretti later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back – an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene.

“That day, he thought he was going to die,” said the source.

Pretti was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records reviewed by CNN.

 
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Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.
That statement came from DHS. They've lied about so many aspects of this situation, I find their statement highly dubuious. at best.

From the article:

After the shooting, DHS shared a photo of a firearm on social media, which they said belonged to Pretti. The agency also said he had two magazines of ammunition and no ID.
 
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Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.
I've just watched a video where they mention that very point.

Firstly, it's irrelevant because they weren't tackling him because he was armed as they didn't know that he was until they had pepper sprayed him and beaten the crap out of him.

Secondly, yes, it's a requirement to carry ID when you are carrying a gun. Do you know what the penalty for that is in MN? I'll let you look it up for yourself - as a clue, it's not summary execution by the side of the road!

And, from what I understand, not having ID doesn't make the carry unlawful. The offence is one of not having ID, not unlawful carry!
 
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Can you please show in that article where it says he didn’t have his permit on him? I read it twice and never saw anything that said that. You stated it like it was a fact.

Edit, I apologize, I did see the quote in the article about him not having ID.
"DHS added that the suspect had two magazines on him, no identification, " You have to carry ID and the permit under MRS 624.714
 
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"DHS added that the suspect had two magazines on him, no identification, " You have to carry ID and the permit under MRS 624.714
It doesn't make the carry unlawful, though.

Did you check what the penalty for not carry ID/the permit, btw?
 
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I've just watched a video where they mention that very point.

Firstly, it's irrelevant because they weren't tackling him because he was armed as they didn't know what he was until they had pepper sprayed him and beaten the crap out of him.

Secondly, yes, it's a requirement to carry ID when you are carrying a gun. Do you know what the penalty for that is in MN? I'll let you look it up for yourself - as a clue, it's not summary execution by the side of the road!

And, from what I understand, not having ID doesn't make the carry unlawful. The offence is one of not having ID, not unlawful carry!
It is a misdemeanor under 624.714.
 
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Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.
So now it’s the local MPD’s fault that ICE is shooting citizens in the street 10 times in the back and 3-4 times into their open car windows? You stated that as a fact, I do not agree with that. When does ICE get to be held responsible for their own actions?
 
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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, a Democrat, said he understood the risk of people trying to bear witness and document the actions of federal agents.

"Thank God, thank God, we have video because, according to DHS, these seven heroic guys took an onslaught of a battalion against them or something. It's nonsense, people. It is nonsense, and it's lies."
Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti
 
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It is a misdemeanor under 624.714.
It’s a $25 fine, which they wave if you bring your current conceal carry ID down to the station with the violation.
 
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It’s a $25 fine, which they wave if you bring your current conceal carry ID down to the station with the violation.
In effect, nothing, then. Yet ICE decided that they get to choose summary execution instead!
 
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"DHS added that the suspect had two magazines on him, no identification, " You have to carry ID and the permit under MRS 624.714
Not sure what your comment is meant to achieve. Are you saying Alex Pretti was executed justifiably?
 
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In effect, nothing, then. Yet ICE decided that they get to choose summary execution instead!
Also ICE is immigration enforcement, they have nothing to do with gun permitting or making sure US citizens are carrying with proper documentation. So seems like they may have overstepped their duties there, to put it lightly.
 
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So now it’s the local MPD’s fault that ICE is shooting citizens in the street 10 times in the back and 3-4 times into their open car windows? You stated that as a fact, I do not agree with that. When does ICE get to be held responsible for their own actions?
I didn't say it was MPD's fault. But there is no question that the Mayor could be making these situations safer and is choosing to not do so.
 
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Not sure what your comment is meant to achieve. Are you saying Alex Pretti was executed justifiably?
Boy, lots of people want to put words in my mouth this morning I guess. I am pointing out that Pretti was not in fact legally carrying that morning. Nothing more.
 
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SBM

Here is the article from representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum and why they find it inappropriate.

ETA link

I read it and I think you could replace the work 'Jewish' with 'brown' and here we are.
 
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I didn't say it was MPD's fault. But there is no question that the Mayor could be making these situations safer and is choosing to not do so.
I would argue Trump, DHS could make this safer. Wonder why they aren't?
 

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