MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

  • #161
Why do you think she doesn't have to comply with federal agents giving a lawful order? Where did you learn this terrible advice?
She was complying, they were yelling at her to get out of the way, she was trying to drive away until she was executed. You didn't watch the video? Thank heavens for people recording ICE, otherwise we'd never know the ugly truth.
 
  • #162
Just replying to clarify my eyeroll reaction was for the idiot spouting the nonsense, and not your post about the odiot spouting the nonsense 😉
same here at the linked comments, not at the member
 
  • #163
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers have federal authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), particularly Section 287 (8 U.S.C. § 1357), to arrest individuals violating immigration laws, and they can arrest U.S. citizens who obstruct government functions or interfere with their lawful duties, often under general federal laws against obstruction of justice, like 18 U.S.C. § 1509.

We know she didn't violate immigration laws, per the statement put out. What lawful duty was she obstructing? She was trying to leave as instructed to do.
 
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I'm assuming it's this video?

The person who posted it works for fox news,which isn't an approved source, but the video has a abc5 news watermark, and they are considered mainstream media. I think it's fine to upload

nvm I found the original source

Thank you for posting the video. In that one it is a little too far away to see everything. I'm trying to find the one at ground level showing the car facing whoever is taking the video.
 
  • #166
We know she didn't violate immigration laws, per the statement put out. What lawful duty was she obstructing? She was trying to leave as instructed to do.
When the federal agent told her to get out of the car.
 
  • #167
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers have federal authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), particularly Section 287 (8 U.S.C. § 1357), to arrest individuals violating immigration laws, and they can arrest U.S. citizens who obstruct government functions or interfere with their lawful duties, often under general federal laws against obstruction of justice, like 18 U.S.C. § 1509.
<modsnip: personalizing> She was not violating any law. She was actually there as an ICE "legal observer". Someone who monitors federal agents. MSN and
 
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  • #168
Thank you for posting the video. In that one it is a little too far away to see everything. I'm trying to find the one at ground level showing the car facing whoever is taking the video.
Posts #17 and #18

ETA also #26
 
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Not true, as a US citizen federal agents do have authority over her and you. When you don't comply and then drive straight toward an agent you are going to get shot. It's not nice, sweet, and sugary but its real life. She has the right to protest but she doesn't have the right to obstruction of government, and she surely didn't have the right to run over someone.

Was she even protesting though? We don't know what happened before the video starts but it looked to me that maybe she pulled out of her either a driveway or building, then Unidentified Trucks come speeding up quickly on her as they barrel thru the neighborhood and she stopped in the middle of the road trying to figure things out, then Rambo got out of the vehicle and then the confrontation started. I'm sorry but at this point, I can't take anything coming out of the "official" version until I can see what happened before and if this woman was in fact interfering with ICE or just going about her day. No matter what, she didn't deserve to be executed the way she was from the video footage I've seen.
 
  • #172
When the federal agent told her to get out of the car.
She obeyed the federal agent that spoke first, telling her to leave. She was leaving. The ICE agent who told her to get out of the car did not have jurisdiction to do so, and if properly trained, should not have contradicted his coworker.
 
  • #173
When the federal agent told her to get out of the car.

While another federal agent was telling her at the same time to leave. Impossible to comply with both orders at once. Are you supposed to ask the agents giving opposing orders what their ranks are and obey the order of the higher ranking federal agent in that moment?
 
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From what you can SEE and HEAR on the videos, all the different angles too, there is ZERO justification for the ICE agents actions and he should be prosecuted. Jmo.
 
  • #176
While the other one is telling her to leave?
It’s almost like ICE agents purposely cause chaos and confusion in an effort to make a situation escalate to the point where they decide they need to use violence. MOO.
 
  • #177
While another federal agent was telling her at the same time to leave. Impossible to comply with both orders at once. Are you supposed to ask the agents giving opposing orders what their ranks are and obey the order of the higher ranking federal agent in that mom

She obeyed the federal agent that spoke first, telling her to leave. She was leaving. The ICE agent who told her to get out of the car did not have jurisdiction to do so, and if properly trained, should not have contradicted his coworker.
Can you tell me in the video when you hear leave? I don't hear it. At what second mark?
 
  • #178
She obeyed the federal agent that spoke first, telling her to leave. She was leaving. The ICE agent who told her to get out of the car did not have jurisdiction to do so, and if properly trained, should not have contradicted his coworker.

Also, when you have contradictory orders, then you're damned either way. If she had gotten out of the car, then posters would say "well she didn't comply, she was told to leave." She leaves and they say "well she didn't comply, she was told to get out of the car."

The woman would have been killed no matter what she did, thanks to incompetence and malice on the part of ICE. This agent needs to be charged with 1st degree murder.

MOO.
 
  • #179
The one who walked away looking perfectly fine? I have no doubt he presented to a hospital to keep up the charade, but he certainly didn't look injured. Probably just anxiety at this point because he knows he killed a woman in cold blood.

MOO.
My jaw is dropping at how the scene was handled.

What protocols are they following? They are trained, I'm assuming. So is the training to shout conflicting orders, shoot civilians, and then scatter before the police show up?


jmopinion
 
  • #180
I thought this was supposed to be an open discussion and a safe place and you are getting personal. I am stating facts that a federal officer gave her an order, she ignored it and then drove her car into one. Then someone asked me what gives them right - i'm answering.
It is an open discussion but it's also a place for compassion and for not supporting people being shot repeatedly in the face. Jmo.
 

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