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They were labeling Renee Good as a domestic terrorist before we had barely even learned her full name. MOO.Considering the administration we have it's an 85% chance that's a lie.
They were labeling Renee Good as a domestic terrorist before we had barely even learned her full name. MOO.Considering the administration we have it's an 85% chance that's a lie.
No, I do not think any possible second or third shots would have been justified. I also agree with your analogy that it equates to shooting somebody while fleeing.Do you think that still justified the shooter firing a second and third shot through the open passenger door window AFTER he was well clear of the vehicle and the the perceived threat was gone?
To me, that's the equivalent of shooting someone in the back after they are in the process of running away and that's not self-defense, that's murder.
False. False. False. ICE has been terrorizing Portland for months, stalking children and families at school, stores, places of employment, kidnapping people off the streets. Now, they've shot two people.You mean the attempted arrest by our border patrol agents of member (or members) of Tren de Aragua, a foreign terrorist organization? Or are you referring to another situation?
He was not standing in front of her car- until she started to turn towards him at a high rate of speed.Please can you tell me why you think an ICE officer who has previously been dragged by a car would stand in front of a car in a tense situation? Does he bare any responsibility for his own safety or the public's?
In a news conference tonight, officials provided more details on the shooting incident in Portland, Oregon, that hospitalized a married couple.You mean the attempted arrest by our border patrol agents of member (or members) of Tren de Aragua, a foreign terrorist organization? Or are you referring to another situation?
wow that's not what I sawHe was not standing in front of her car- until she started to turn towards him at a high rate of speed.
Our Roman law system guilt plus or minus, guilty or innocent. If we had the Napoleonic code which allows for a shared guilt concept, I would assign some to the officers and the victim (if she were not deceased)
Basically, I don't buy the various excuses for her behavior. She choose to put her self at risk by her actions.
I don't doubt you. Alot of people have different perceptions watching those videos.wow that's not what I saw
Why wouldn't they be?In a news conference tonight, officials provided more details on the shooting incident in Portland, Oregon, that hospitalized a married couple.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minneapolis-ice-shooting-01-08-26
Are members of Trwn de Argua typically married couples?
Because they're not?Why wouldn't they be?
Basically, I don't buy the various excuses for her behavior. She choose to put her self at risk by her actions.
We're not blind, the video is out there.He was not standing in front of her car- until she started to turn towards him at a high rate of speed.
I hope it finds Jonathan Ross guilty and sentences him to a cold, dark cell for life.Our Roman law system guilt plus or minus, guilty or innocent. If we had the Napoleonic code which allows for a shared guilt concept, I would assign some to the officers and the victim (if she were not deceased)
Heartless.Basically, I don't buy the various excuses for her behavior. She choose to put her self at risk by her actions.
Link, please.Because they're not?
A majority of the American voters identified illegal immigration as one of the top issues for them in the last election.
As I stated in my post, the majority of American voters voted for President Trump and one of their top issues was dealing with the open borders and illegal immigration crisis. That is simply a fact.47% of Americans who voted for Trump is not the majority of the country. More people did not vote than cast a vote for him.
Just so I'm clear, you agree with ICE gunning citizens down or kidnapping people off the street? That's what you voted for?As I stated in my post, the majority of American voters voted for President Trump and one of their top issues was dealing with the open borders and illegal immigration crisis. That is simply a fact.
And it’s that statistic in many years worth of fear mongering news cycles. Many people not having their material needs met have found solace in being given someone else to blame (instead of the crummy politicians or billionaires). I’d imagine it’s a more particularly salient boogeyman to blame for people who don’t even have undocumented neighbors to reference as living, breathing humans… mooThat is a very foggy statistic because only about 2/3 of the voting public actually voted, and only about 1/2 of that 2/3 voted for these policies. So, about 1/3 of the voting public gave their mandate for these actions.
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Thank you, and I have added further comments from the same witness below.From a different witness...
Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to “get out of here.”
Whatever happened to that wall that Mexico was going to pay for to fix this “problem”?As I stated in my post, the majority of American voters voted for President Trump and one of their top issues was dealing with the open borders and illegal immigration crisis. That is simply a fact.
I agree, but in some of our cities the local LE won't cooperate with our federal immigration officers who are there doing their jobs. If the local LE are not willing to be present at protests where federal agents are working, then the ICE agents have to protect themselves.