MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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The worst idea ever.
Like pouring gasoline on a five alarm fire.
Tensions are beyond high.
IMO
There will be more blood, IMO.
 
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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and administration officials have vigorously defended her agency’s response, insisting that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer who fired three shots at Renee Good while she was behind the wheel of her car was “surrounded and assaulted” by protesters.


BBM

Some statements by the officials seem to not be supported by the evidence available.
 
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IMO, that’s why they are deploying more ICE agents there - to further fan the flames and escalate the situation in Minnesota. Minnesota does not have a proportionately higher number of illegal immigrants than any other state. So why there, if ICE’s whole purpose is to find and deport illegal immigrants?
Mission creep.

Now their job appears to be to silence protesters and end free speech rights.

MOO
 
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It appears that the claimed increase in assaults isn't supported by any publicly available information.

If that stat is true, why is the government not prosecuting people who commit assault against agents?

Wouldn't you expect prosecutions to increase by 1000+% as well?
The “1,000% increase” claim isn’t very legitimate. It’s based on a tiny baseline, so even a small rise looks dramatic when expressed as a percentage. DHS also uses a very broad definition of “assault,” often including minor, non-injurious incidents, and hasn’t released transparent data or methodology. Independent reviews show nothing close to a 1,000% rise in serious attacks, so this reads more like political messaging than a meaningful statistic. Again, similar to why ICE don't wear body cams, you have to wonder why there isn't a more transparent way of reporting incidents?...I think most of us know why. Jmo.
 
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One other thing I don’t understand is why Ross didn’t order Good to shut off her engine before circling the SUV and pausing at the back and front.

I watch those silly bodycam Youtubes sometimes and if a car’s engine is running when the officer approaches that’s the first order he gives. Ross in contrast acted like a rookie cop on his first day, which IMO put himself and other officers in danger by then demanding Good exit the car. With the motor running. Isn’t he supposed to have around 10 years of military and LE experience?

JMO the shooting was about intimidating a woman who wasn’t showing proper respect. Was ICE even conducting a raid on that street or were they simply traveling to a different location?

And what experienced ICE agent chooses to stand in front of an SUV while its engine is running then demand the person to exit and then shoot multiple times into a moving vehicle? If this wasn’t such a serious event I’d laugh at Ross’ behavior.
All MOO

I agree fully. I'm not someone who is always up in arms over the behavior of law enforcement, but these two things really did stand out starkly. I've even heard similar from some who genuinely have a pro-law enforcement stance.

The wife, Rebecca, making the remark about him needing to go to lunch, may have inadvertently been Ross' breaking point.
So it seems ICE was conducting an operatin right there. New video shows Renee's car blocking the street for about 4 minutes as she honks the horn and others blow whistles. ICE is on the scene. That truck that shows up are follow up, not the first on the scene. She had been told to move her vehicle earlier
 
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I could see an argument in a court of law that the drive baby drive comment in and of itself was incitement.
Yes, agreed.
 
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So it seems ICE was conducting an operatin right there. New video shows Renee's car blocking the street for about 4 minutes as she honks the horn and others blow whistles. ICE is on the scene. That truck that shows up are follow up, not the first on the scene. She had been told to move her vehicle earlier
So?

It does not make shooting her in the face an appropriate response.
MOO
 
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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and administration officials have vigorously defended her agency’s response, insisting that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer who fired three shots at Renee Good while she was behind the wheel of her car was “surrounded and assaulted” by protesters.


BBM

Some statements by the officials seem to not be supported by the evidence available.
Well, that's to be expected when officials comment before it's possible to have done any investigation.

MOO
 
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So it seems ICE was conducting an operatin right there. New video shows Renee's car blocking the street for about 4 minutes as she honks the horn and others blow whistles. ICE is on the scene. That truck that shows up are follow up, not the first on the scene. She had been told to move her vehicle earlier
True. But you wouldn't expect it to escalate to a fatal shooting. More an arrest or detainment.
 
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One thing I have noticed with the witness statement is that NONE of them have ever said Renee Good hit Officer Ross with her car. They were standing around in close proximity and witnessed the entire thing yet there are no statements from anyone there that she struck him with her vehicle. All MOO.
Good point.
 
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No doubt this will be huge.
If there is some kind of trial, yes, it will be a key point. It's unfortunate that the wife, Rebecca, inadvertently made things very dangerous for Renee.

Not to say Ross was justified in his actions, but it seems clearly to be the point where confusion on his part may have become a factor.
 
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Of course he was ready to defend himself. Who knows what these "protesters" will do. We have all seen the extreme violence at these protests against ICE officials. We can all read the hatred for LE online and even on this thread. They are hated and many people wish death on them. He would be stupid not to be prepared to defend himself.
"Protesters" in quotes?

I need a little clarification as to what that is.

I know what a protester is. Someone who exercises free speech in a free country (or a country like ours, sliding away from free.)

But what exactly is a "protester?" Is it a woman? A gay person? Why did you put it in quotes?

MOO
 
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What are the legal consequences for having your vehicle in that position in the road?
Maybe LE drives by and ignores it. Maybe LE asks the driver to move along. It's not a parking ticket because the driver is in the car.

MOO
 
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I looked this up yesterday but can't remember where, but it's a misdemeanor, generally.
If they even bother to cite the driver instead of just giving them the chance to move their vehicle and leave with a warning.
But... ICE agents are not local LE, and they do not enforce traffic violations.
The agents should have called for local LE to deal with it.
This was overkill - in many ways :(
IMO.
Not even. She wasn't parked there.

She was maneuvering her vehicle to leave.

She thought she was going home to her family.

MOO
 
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Ok here it is go to about 2:08 into this video. <modsnip>

 
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Not even. She wasn't parked there.

She was maneuvering her vehicle to leave.

She thought she was going home to her family.

MOO
Was Rebecca in the car when Renee drove away? What happened to the dog?
 
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The wife of Renee Good, the woman shot and killed in her car by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis, says the couple had stopped to support their neighbors on the day of the shooting and described the mother of three as leaving a legacy of kindness.

"We had whistles. They had guns," Becca Good said in a written statement Friday that was provided to Minnesota Public Radio.....

Becca said Renee was a Christian who "knew that all religions teach the same essential truth: we are here to love each other, care for each other, and keep each other safe and whole."


Trump administration officials have painted Renee Good as a domestic terrorist who tried to run over an officer with her vehicle. State and local officials in Minneapolis, as well as protesters, have rejected that characterization.


 
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If there is some kind of trial, yes, it will be a key point. It's unfortunate that the wife, Rebecca, inadvertently made things very dangerous for Renee.

Not to say Ross was justified in his actions, but it seems clearly to be the point where confusion on his part may have become a factor.
Of course there is no justification.

Because one person legally heckles you and hurts your feelings, you can shoot and kill a related person? I think not!

A person trusted with a gun in any kind of LE has to have emotional control.

MOO
 
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