Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

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  • #601
excellent info Gitana.

What do you think about the BF? Will he get off?

Deedee basically killed Gypsy. If for some reason Deedee would have been busted, she would have not received much prison time, I feel.

I am not sad Deedee is dead. What a monster!

I don't think he will totally get off. Whether right or wrong, I think Gypsy is another matter. Her attorneys are smart to sever her case from his as son as possible (which his attorney does not want).

By the time trial comes around her hair will be grown out. They will make her look childlike. She might testify. The abuse will be such a huge factor in this case.

I don't know enough about the boyfriend but he won't have the years of abuse to mitigate what he did.
 
  • #602
That's not at all what I was suggesting, but sorry if I offended you. I didn't mention anything about a developmental delay in relation to having a lazy eye. Only that perhaps if she does have a lazy eye, it could potentially be related to an underlying medical condition. The reason I pointed it out was just to suggest the possibility that maybe Gypsy did have some legitimate health issues.

I noticed it also! It might not be lazy eye at all. Maybe an accident or injury of somekind.
But it did catch my attention!

I also wonder if now her voice might someday go to a normal voice! all those years speaking like a child.... ugh!
 
  • #603
It sounds to me (JMOO) that at first DD was living off her family but when she scammed them using credit cards, they disowned her. It was at that point she played up GB's maladies and sought welfare. At some point that wasn't enough for her and she got full disability for GB and as the guardian had full control over the finances. This would continue until the age of 18 unless GB was not mentally able to care for herself (i.e. low IQ). So naturally - she was also low I.Q. according to DD. . . putting her in complete control of every cent coming in.

Here was a quote from the cousin that stood out to me: (BBM)



This wording drives home the fact that GB was not aware that her mother was being abusive.

ime, it's not uncommon for kids who are being abused don't recognize the abuse for what it is particularly if they are isolated, well protected or simply too young to have much experience of the world.

On another note, I am not sure what I think about the DeeDee poisoning rumors. I'm inclined to take them with a pinch of salt. It just seems like ... too much.
 
  • #604
This is a small observation in the grand scheme of things, and I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but I thought I'd bring it up.

In the photos of Gypsy we've seen since her arrest, especially her initial mug shot, I think she looks a bit cross-eyed or lazy-eyed (strabismus and/or amblyopia). Does anyone else think that? And of course she was wearing those horrid-looking glasses in the earlier pictures. I'm wondering if the eye issue (if there is one) could be indicative of a real underlying medical condition, underdevelopment, or genetic abnormality. Just something I thought of...but maybe her eyes are normal and I'm just reaching.

Strabismus causes: http://www.strabismus.org/what_causes_strabismus.html
Amblyopia causes: http://www.kellogg.umich.edu/patientcare/conditions/amblyopia.html

Yes it looks to me like she may have a lazy eye, but no, lazy eye doesn't indicate any underlying mental, developmental or medical problem. Source: My dad has had a lazy eye (three surgeries at this point because apparently the eye enjoys being lazy) and he is perfectly healthy in all ways.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/lazy-eye/basics/causes/con-20029771
 
  • #605
I don't think he will totally get off. Whether right or wrong, I think Gypsy is another matter. Her attorneys are smart to sever her case from his as son as possible (which his attorney does not want).

By the time trial comes around her hair will be grown out. They will make her look childlike. She might testify. The abuse will be such a huge factor in this case.

I don't know enough about the boyfriend but he won't have the years of abuse to mitigate what he did.
I personally don't think they will make her look childlike at all. Can you imagine the uproar and outrage from the public if her attorneys appear to perpetuate the abuse she withstood her entire life? No way! I think they will do the exact opposite. "See your honor? She is unstable because she was forced to be a child when she is clearly a young woman".
 
  • #606
someone had shown a photo of Gypsy with shading on her neck, possibly bruises.
Now do we know if anyone ever saw bruising on her?
I am wondering if DD was getting more abusive with G?
Mental, verbal and physical?
Was there a huge fight the night before? with or about the boyfriend?
Going to expose DD???

Looks like a hickey to me.
 
  • #607
I personally don't think they will make her look childlike at all. Can you imagine the uproar and outrage from the public if her attorneys appear to perpetuate the abuse she withstood her entire life? No way! I think they will do the exact opposite. "See your honor? She is unstable because she was forced to be a child when she is clearly a young woman".

Well they won't have her in pigtails holding a teddy bear. But I know this business and I'm certain of what they will do-outfits and hairstyles that make her look young and innocent. And no one will say a word. There will be zero outrage from the public.

Also, the crux of their defense is not going to be that Gypsy was forced to remain a child. It's horrific medical abuse and domination/exploitation/isolation since she WAS a child.
 
  • #608
I think the battered woman defense is quite a bit different than this. Frankly, I don't think battered women should spend a day in jail but that's just me. In Gypsy's case though, she's clearly messed up in the head. She doesn't function on the same level as your average 24 yr old because she's never been ALLOWED to be normal. I think when she discovered the internet and social media and saw what other girls her age were doing it messed with her so much, tugged on her heart so much she tried super hard to be just like those girls, but she's NOT like those girls.

I don't think she should be in jail after her trial but I do think she should be contained somewhere, in some kind of facility that will work diligently with her to bring to as close as possible to a place of right-thinking. If that's at all possible.

moo.

Im right with you.

Do you all think that Gypsy's defense attorneys will do the Nurmi thing of throwing DD under the bus? For some reason, I think DD will be on trial more than Gypsy.

And would throwing DD under the bus be warranted? It wasn't in the Arias trial and I just wondered what you all thought.

Yes. Dee dee will 100% be on trial. And it will 100% be warranted. The two cases do not compare at all. Jodi Arias suffered zero abuse at the hands of her victim. Gypsy was totally destroyed by the decades of horrific abuse her victim subjected her to. Dee dee took a normal kid and twisted her into a profoundly, irrevocably demented shell of a human.
 
  • #609
I get what you're saying, to a point, but then I don't. What is the difference in a mentally & verbally abused wife & a mentally & verbally abused child? When an abused wife, who may have possibly grown up in a normal household with normal parents & was taught right from wrong, snaps & decides to kill her abusive spouse it's justified? Even though she was taught & knows right from wrong? But when a child or adult in this case, has been raised from day 1, by a mentally & verbally abusive parent who taught the child that lying & deceiving people was ok, kept them isolated from the real world, no schooling or education, snaps & kills or has her bf, who seems to love & care for her unconditionally, kill her abusive parent, that it is not justified??? What if Gypsy was a 12 yr old? Or 15 yr old? Would that make a difference in justifying murder?
What if this was a father who had been sexually molesting his daughter from a very young age? Would that change anything?
An abuser is an abuser no matter the age of their victims in my opinion, what DD did as a parent is just as unacceptable as a husband that beats his wife. No one, child or an adult deserves to be abused, physically, mentally or verbally. And imo I think mental & verbal abuse are worse than physical abuse, not that any kind of abuse is ever acceptable, but black eyes & bruises can heal, but those words are embedded in your entire being & even when you think you've suppressed those words, they really never go away! And with mental & verbal abuse people don't think it's all that bad because they can't physically see the abuse with their eyes the way one can with physical abuse.
Sorry to ramble but I in my heart of hearts i don't believe one is more justifiable than the other. Abuse is abuse, murder is murder & a sin is always a sin no matter which one you commit!!!

The difference is that abuse of a child is far worse than abuse of a spouse. Especially systematic abuse of a child for over a decade. A battered spouse goes into the relationship as an adult with the understanding of the world an adult has- ability to navigate the world, knows there are resources, chooses to stay after the first blow, etc. A kid born into abuse like this - the kind that masquerades as love and is very difficult for the victim to even understand or characterize as maltreatment, simply doesn't stand a chance.

This is worse and Gypsy should be far less culpable than a battered wife who kills her spouse, IMO.
 
  • #610
But if she killed Dee Dee casue she was sick if playing the game and exploded - why would she continue playing it?

Who said she was? There was no wheelchair with her as she got into the cabs with her boyfriend and she walked fine.
 
  • #611
Hey, why I am I ll alone practically, on this thread? I guess I came into the case too late!!!! I suppose I will carry on with my sad one-sided conversations:

It could just come down to what the prosecutor quotes in the 1 article A prosecutor told the court that Gypsy wanted Godejohn to kill her mother “so they could be together.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article25032529.html#storylink=cpy
Maybe mom didn't want GB to have any but she found 1 anyways and didn't want her mother in her life anymore? Very sad if she chose this guy over her mother. A bit messed up to say the least.

I think Gypsy would've be better of choosing anyone over her mother, including this guy! I agree with the posters who state the eventual outcome would've been Gypsy's death, had she not killed her mother first.

I mean I have sympathy for her. I'm sorry she had to live like that for her 18 to 24 years, whatever it was, but I wonder if we would have the same sympathy for a young man who was abused and such had manipulated a young girl to kill his mother or a stranger.

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I have a question for anyone. On the threads about this case, I have seen use of the word "manipulated" repeatedly when it comes to Gypsy and her boyfriend and why he killed the mother. I think I missed an article. Can someone tell me why this is being said?

I mean, I know it's been stated he may have an intellectual disability. Have we confirmation of that? Do we know about her communications to him and what was said? What has been released about this?

TIA all!

A family of six boys Known as the Wolfpack (Featured on "48 Hours" on Fri and in a documentary) were kept in a NYC apt for years. They are doing well - are delightfull in fact. Learned coping skills by watching over 10,000 movies during their fathers control. They are amazing - a joy to watch. Anyone see the 48 hours segment? You should watch it as it restores your faith in humanity. Shows not everyone snaps, although I am amazed the turned out the way they did. It will make you feel good! Conflicted about this case and wondering if GB is diabolical at this point or it's just very sad. Can't help but think she could've figured out another way to gain freedom.
Murder is never an option.

I know everyone thinks the Wolfpack boys are doing well. I don't. They did have the benefit of each other's support and solidarity and the look at life through their movies (which does not give an accurate sense of reality) and their mother's stories, but I believe they are very brain damaged by missing billions of interactions and experiences that we take for granted, that every baby and child experiences, which create a vital network of synapses in the brain that help us understand the world around us and our place in it.

The Wolfpack brothers did not get to see people, over and over again, as they greet each other on the street, say hello to them, hug each other, help each other, yell at one another, warn each other, have countless conversations about life and themselves and each other. They did not get to spend thousands upon thousands of hours, as children do, jumping, running, climbing, on jungle gyms, fire hydrants, sidewalks, asphalt, grass, sand, dirt, hills, learning the limits of their bodies and the world.

They did not get to look directly above them and view the limitless sky reaching in all directions, or to see bird flying over their heads, or a plane pass over, or skyscrapers looming above them into the heavens. Yes, they saw things out of their windows, but not above them, which gives a child such a different sense of space and time and distance and their own smallness in the universe.

These kids did not get to crunch through fallen leaves, run as fast as hey can, smell mown grass, flowers, feel snow on their faces, or rain, or watch the leaves on the trees above them turn into fall colors (they only left the apartment in summer, the few times they ever did).

They didn't get to interact or socialize with other children, relatives, or even other adults almost ever. Or learn the games kids play, or how to begin to notice the cute girl in class, or how to drive or date or fight with a friend or enemy.

Our brains are products of our experiences. Our brains create vital connections that help us evolve as humans and gain wisdom about the world, whenever we experience even the most mundane thing, like shaking hands, seeing a dog run past us, hearing someone sneeze in a library, seeing our shadow on the ground around us. What was denied these boys has a similar effect to that of a person who has been blind since birth and suddenly is able to see - their brains lack the ability to understand depth, human emotion on a face, etc. They still need canes, and the faces of their loved ones are meaningless. Their brains never learned how to see the world with vision and now it is too late to learn.

I predict that once the sweet and exuberant veneer fades from these boys' personas, incredible dysfunction will be apparent. I predict mental health disorders, addiction issues, rage and suicide for at least some of them, sadly.

There is no way these boys can navigate the world normally due to what they were deprived of and once they realize they are so vastly different and cannot comprehend things the way others do, there will be consequences.

That would be difficult to answer without knowing if she suffers with mental health issues. I would have a lot more sympathy and understanding if Gypsy would be found to have had problems functioning mentally.
Many people do grow up in abusive households but don't resort to killing.
As for Dee Dee...whatever she did, she paid for by dying a horrible death. Her own family (sister and nephew) don't have a kind word for her even in death.
I would like to think in spite of the way she raised Gypsy that she did love her....hopefully that was the case and it wasn't all bad.
I'm really waiting to see what more info comes out in regard to who Gypsy really is.

Remember the case of the little girl adopted by a pedophile from Russia? Who raped her nightly and used her to make child 🤬🤬🤬🤬? Restricted her diet to keep her small and prepubescent? Well he also bought her toys and took her to Disney. So should we say maybe he loved her and it wasn't all bad? If that kid had not been rescued and had instead grown up with him, and then coerced an online boyfriend to have him killed, would there be any sympathy for the abuser? As much need to hold her accountable for his murder and to have her thrown in prison for 50 years or whatever?

I see little difference. The mother here destroyed this child's life. Decimated it. Ruined her kid. Twisted her. Devastated her future. Emotionally amputated all her limbs.

I excuse Gypsy.
 
  • #612
Hi Gitana. No you're not alone here, but some of your replies are to posts we discussed as infinitum pages ago, so I guess we're pooped out! :) I'm so glad you're here as I always appreciate your perspective, even if it's belated.

This case has turned my brain into a pretzel. I will say more later, but I'm having trouble posting right now, either due to an iPad or WS glitch.
 
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Somewher it states that tge BF says he has Asperger's. No indication of the impacts.
 
  • #615
Apparently the link I saved and posted above was not the one referencing the messages via the dating website. My apologies. I did locate another link with this quote from the search warrant:

The new search warrants say that the 26-year-old Godejohn told investigators when he arrived at the family’s home on the 2100 block of North Volunteer Way, Gypsy handed him a knife and gloves and told him Dee Dee, 48, was in the master bedroom.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...gators-seize-gypsys-medical-records/29276555/

I was not able to find the proper link that references a number of messages the two had. Perhaps someone else has it handy?

ETA - found it:
Gypsy Blanchard and her boyfriend Nicholas Godejohn used a Christian dating website to plan out how to kill Blanchard's mother, according to a recently unsealed search warrant.

Authorities seized 26 files of communication last week between Gypsy and Godejohn on the website ChristianDatingForFree.com. Documents say Godejohn told authorities he and Gypsy met on the website where they communicated about needing to kill Gypsy's mother — Clauddinnea "Dee Dee" Blanchard — so that he and Gypsy could be together.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...john-planned-killing-dating-website/29462497/
 
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Gitana, The word manipulated is being used in reference to the messages (via a dating website) that LE found; in which GB supposedly asks / tells / cons her bf into killing her mother so they can be together. I have not seen any MSM quotes of these supposed messages.

link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ther-man-fell-love-Christian-dating-site.html

Thank you!

Somewher it states that tge BF says he has Asperger's. No indication of the impacts.

I remember that.

Apparently the link I saved and posted above was not the one referencing the messages via the dating website. My apologies. I did locate another link with this quote from the search warrant:



http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...gators-seize-gypsys-medical-records/29276555/

I was not able to find the proper link that references a number of messages the two had. Perhaps someone else has it handy?

ETA - found it:

http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...john-planned-killing-dating-website/29462497/

Thanks. You know, I don't see anything indicating Gypsy manipulated anyone. Even with Aspergers, the boyfriend was likely more functional than she.

There are so many cases of "lovers" who plot to and kill the parent of one of them so they can "be together". Doesn't mean one manipulated the other.
 
  • #618
With all the talk of Disney movies -- how does anyone save the Princess, specifically Snow White or Sleeping Beauty?

Simple, kill the Evil Queen, right?

In the Habitat home dedication video, Gypsy says "fairy tales really do come true."
 
  • #619
With all the talk of Disney movies -- how does anyone save the Princess, specifically Snow White or Sleeping Beauty?

Simple, kill the Evil Queen, right?

In the Habitat home dedication video, Gypsy says "fairy tales really do come true."
So true.
 
  • #620
With all the talk of Disney movies -- how does anyone save the Princess, specifically Snow White or Sleeping Beauty?

Simple, kill the Evil Queen, right?

In the Habitat home dedication video, Gypsy says "fairy tales really do come true."
Wow! Usually it was the "evil step mother" but hauntingly, the mother in this situation. No fairy tale here.
Eta: I get it though. That's how GRB was raised.
 
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