Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[atmosphere]

She doesn't have to take the stand.

Yes, but I and many others really hope she does. I would like to hear the story from her perspective because after all thats what brought her to this dismal point.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I think this is the first time I have ever defended a murderer.

Lol. Me too. Welcome to the club. The prosecution would be highly upset if I was a juror.

Sorry I snipped the comment though. I just wanted to respond directly to that. Thanks CM.

 

[concernedmother]

I bet their wont be too many dry eyes in that court room when her story comes out. I know I wouldn't be able to stop the tears.

 

[pepelepolecat]

I am not speaking of the 8 yr old Gypsy!
She did as Mom told her.

Im speaking of the adult Gypsy.

guess we all have to wait and see wont we?

Sadly tho we will only have one side of this story!

None of us know how DeeDee treated Gypsy when they were not doing their act!

Like I said id love to know if they went out incognito to other places I do not for one second believe they never ventured out.

All JMO

Eight-year-old Gypsy grew to be 23-year-old Gypsy. The experiences she had at 8, 10, 12 and so on (even those years she seemed to repeat an age or two) all went together to mold her into what we see today. The adult Gypsy did not develop in a vacuum.

I don't know how DB treated GB when they were alone, but if experience is worth anything, how she treated her in public was likely vastly better than how she treated her in private.

 

[Lilibet]

Personally, with the facts we have so far, I hope this case never goes to trial. I'd like to see Gypsy offered a deal to spend a certain number of years in a mental facility undergoing treatment, with ongoing counseling and supervision after she is released, if necessary. IMO She is not insane, but has been severely damaged psychologically by the abuse she endured. Prison will not repair what was done to her. I'm not sure that a mental facility will either. JMO

Because Gypsy was trained to lie and manipulate, I can't imagine that she would change during a trial and tell "the whole truth." I think we possibly got a small taste of her training already in her response to the judge when he was displeased that she consulted with her attorney before answering a question. She responded that she has only a third grade education and is on anti-seizure meds in jail, both of which may be true. IIRC Gypsy went to public school through third grade, and maybe that's all she counts as "education." Or else she was completely homeschooled to an unknown level. But her rather bold response to the judge struck me as if she was trying to portray herself in court as having quite limited understanding. I could be very wrong, but it hit me as manipulative. Due to DB's training and their public appearances during the scam, Gypsy may have the ability to handle herself in a courtroom to her own advantage, without being intimidated by the surroundings or the charges she faces IMO. Time will tell.

I am in NO way minimizing the abuse Gypsy endured. Even if we disagree about the courtroom incident I described above, it seems realistic to recognize that that her abuse included training in successfully lying and manipulating others for her own ends. I think it is very possible that she could manipulate perceptions just sitting in court during a trial, without even testifying. That isn't something I want to see happen, especially if it leads to acquittal and no psychological help.

All JMO, MOO, Etc.

Edited for clarification.

 

[jjenny]

She might be still on anti-seizure meds while in jail.
Even if she doesn't need anti-seizure meds (which we don't know for sure), she would have to be weaned off these meds rather than stopping suddenly.
As for education, since she didn't actually go to school, and Dee Dee was supposedly home schooling her, who knows what her level actually is.

 

[Lilibet]

She might be still on anti-seizure meds while in jail.
Even if she doesn't need anti-seizure meds (which we don't know for sure), she would have to be weaned off these meds rather than stopping suddenly.
As for education, since she didn't actually go to school, and Dee Dee was supposedly home schooling her, who knows what her level actually is.

Thanks for your input. It helped me clarify my post about the courtroom incident (I hope ). I'll clarify further here. Whether what she said to the judge about her education and meds was the truth or not, it amazed me that she had the nerve to even answer back to the judge under these circumstances. It came across to me as surprisingly bold and she seemed to seize the opportunity to portray herself as someone unable to function very well. My perception could be way off, of course. Maybe she wasn't functioning well that day for the reasons she stated, and doesn't understand courtroom decorum. I'm OK being wrong. But my main point is that given her abusive training by DB, lying and manipulation would come easily to her during a trial. I just hope it never goes to trial.

 

[watergirl62]

I don't think Gypsy knows who the real Gypsy is.
She was never given a chance to find that out. :twocents:

ITA. Thanks for saying it.

 

[jjenny]

Thanks for your input. It helped me clarify my post about the courtroom incident (I hope ). I'll clarify further here. Whether what she said to the judge about her education and meds was the truth or not, it amazed me that she had the nerve to even answer back to the judge under these circumstances. It came across to me as surprisingly bold and she seemed to seize the opportunity to portray herself as someone unable to function very well. My perception could be way off, of course. Maybe she wasn't functioning well that day for the reasons she stated, and doesn't understand courtroom decorum. I'm OK being wrong. But my main point is that given her abusive training by DB, lying and manipulation would come easily to her during a trial. I just hope it never goes to trial.

Now I am really confused. If judge was asking her questions, wasn't this judge expecting her to answer back? Why shouldn't she answer questions from the judge?
As for her not functioning well, do we really expect that she should be able to function well?
Given her apparent upbringing, is it possible in any way, shape or form for her to be a well functioning adult?
Somehow I don't think so.

 

[Jo in Calif]

A few questions, at what age was Gypsy when this started? I mean her real age since there seems to be a 4 age discrepancy.
Another thing, did Gypsy bring her meds with her, when she left after the killing, or did she go without meds while she was on the run?

 

[jjenny]

A few questions, at what age was Gypsy when this started? I mean her real age since there seems to be a 4 age discrepancy.
Another thing, did Gypsy bring her meds with her, when she left after the killing, or did she go without meds while she was on the run?

It has been confirmed she was born in 1991. By the time she was 8 years old, there was already an article written how she was in wheelchair, poor vision and hearing, with a feeding tube, etc, and her health was deteriorating for years, so it started when she was very young. It hasn't been reported if Gypsy brought any meds with her.
Multiple meds belonging to Gypsy were found in Blancharde home, so if she brought any with her, she didn't bring all of them.

 

[Jo in Calif]

It has been confirmed she was born in 1991. By the time she was 8 years old, there was already an article written how she was in wheelchair, poor vision and hearing, with a feeding tube, etc, and her health was deteriorating for years, so it started when she was very young. It hasn't been reported if Gypsy brought any meds with her.
Multiple meds belonging to Gypsy were found in Blancharde home, so if she brought any with her, she didn't bring all of them.

So was that article written in 1999?

 

[Eileen730]

It has been confirmed she was born in 1991. By the time she was 8 years old, there was already an article written how she was in wheelchair, poor vision and hearing, with a feeding tube, etc, and her health was deteriorating for years, so it started when she was very young. It hasn't been reported if Gypsy brought any meds with her.
Multiple meds belonging to Gypsy were found in Blancharde home, so if she brought any with her, she didn't bring all of them.

But she did grab the money!
LOL sorry I had too.

 

[Eileen730]

Id like to know if this was the first time NG saw Gypsy in the 2 yrs they were communicating?

 

[Jo in Calif]

http://www.oley.org/2007Award_Winners.html
This was in a 2007 award for her what says she was 12 years old, I think she was more like 16.

 

[Lilibet]

Now I am really confused. If judge was asking her questions, wasn't this judge expecting her to answer back? Why shouldn't she answer questions from the judge?
As for her not functioning well, do we really expect that she should be able to function well?
Given her apparent upbringing, is it possible in any way, shape or form for her to be a well functioning adult?
Somehow I don't think so.

Sorry about the confusion. In re-reading the original story, I very well could have misunderstood what was happening in the exchange with the judge. As I said in my earlier response to you, I'm OK with finding out I'm wrong.

Judge Michael Bohren asked Blancharde if she understood what she was doing. She said yes but conferred with her attorney. The Judge wasn't happy with that and wanted her to answer the questions. She told the judge she has a 3rd grade education and was taking anti-seizure medication in jail.

I am certainly not looking for ways to be critical of Gypsy. I simply had a strange impression based on my initial reading of the paragraph. I am happy to publicly retract that portion of my posts. It was meant as an illustration of one of my reasons that I don't think this case should go to trial. Even though my illustration may be flawed, my basic reasons haven't changed.

My personal opinion is that, because of her upbringing, I would expect Gypsy to be manipulative during a trial, whether she testifies or not. I'm not saying she can help it. It's probably an automatic response. But it's one reason I don't think this case should go to trial. JMO, MOO, etc.

The other reason is that she needs help that prison won't provide, and an acquittal will not help her either.

I hope this helps. If not, I'm sorry. Thank you for your patience. Perhaps it's best if we agree to disagree.

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/new...ri-to-face-charges-for-mothers-stabbing-death

 

[jjenny]

http://www.oley.org/2007Award_Winners.html
This was in a 2007 award for her what says she was 12 years old, I think she was more like 16.

Dee Dee was trying to pass Gypsy off younger than her actual age. At the time Dee Dee was killed, they were claiming Gypsy was 19. She was actually 23. Gypsy is very short, skinny, in wheelchair, bald, toothless, huge glasses, bonnets and grandma clothes, it would be easy to pass her off much younger than her actual age.
I presume to get more sympathy out of people.
Also, if Gypsy tried to run off with some man, Dee Dee could claim Gypsy was a minor and get her back. Which she apparently did in 2011, when Gypsy run off to some older man. Dee Dee got her back.

 

[jjenny]

So was that article written in 1999?

In 2001. She would have been 9 years old at the time article was published.

 

[bluesneakers]

Does anyone think she will tell the real truth on the stand or will she be shady and manipulative? We all have seen ala CA and JA how the attornys twist reality. Is she remorseful or will many months listening to attorneys spin the events twist her mind yet again? Will all those months in jail with all those opinions and schemes and new personalities mold her and harden her more? Of couse she is most likely in isolation I would think. Be interesting to know her frame of mind now. Yes she was like a scared rabbit in court but what is she really like? Who is the real Gypsy?

No, I don't think she's mature and sophisticated enough to cover the truth with a manipulative story.

 

[Inthedetails]

No, I don't think she's mature and sophisticated enough to cover the truth with a manipulative story.

I think the opposite. While I do not think she is mature, I think her "normal" mode of communication with others is manipulation and deceit.

I don't think she knows what "honesty" means. This is not her fault - she was raised in a deceitful environment. She and her mother survived through conning others. I really don't think Gypsy knows HOW to recognize the truth.

And, I'm guessing that Gypsy assumes that everyone else is conning and manipulative too. Because of that, she will always be on guard in order for herself not to be conned.

It's a mess.

JMO.