MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024 #3

[lonetraveler]

“After the shocking loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances, Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction,” the source said, without elaborating on the exact nature.

“He immediately checked himself into rehab after vacating his home and putting his things into storage.”

Kansas City Chiefs fan who hosted watch party where three friends froze to death checks into rehab

The Kansas City Chiefs fan who claimed to be oblivious to his three friends being frozen to death outside his home has checked into rehab, according to a report.

nypost.com

This move isn't surprising to me.

 

[10ofRods]

Thanks, for the perspective. Do you think the DA will have a PC or allow families to share?

I doubt it - but I don't see how the DA can keep the families from sharing in some form. They can have their own press conferences - the story is exceedingly popular and NewsNation would surely show up, just for starters (plus the Kansas City press).

OTOH, if this goes as the DA expects, the family should have most of its concerns addressed. They may be able to give us more facts (corroborated by the DA) after this event. At this point, there are "anonymous" sources "close to families" giving tidbits to various outlets (some of which are not allowed on WS, for good reason, I believe). Then of course NYPost and DM pick those stories up and embellish them, changing the wording from what the original (already anonymous) source as said. For me, I think the DA's decision shows real confidence in the facts of the case.

The story about JW going to rehab, for example, now supports a view that drugs were involved. But that story is from an unnamed source (it's linked just above, from the NYPost). I wonder how JW feels about...whoever it is...talking about his medical situation to the press. This entire story is disheartening on so many levels.

If true, I think we're nearing the bottom of this tunnel of mystery. I should also add that TikTok may well be the original source for the rehab story (which is one reason I'm wary of it) but also, there's another person with the same name as JW who has been on TikTok talking about rehab, etc. I don't like stories gleaned from suspect news sources (ones that WS's owner has banned for good reason) without independent sources.

IMO.

 

[Madison1905]

“After the shocking loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances, Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction,” the source said, without elaborating on the exact nature.

“He immediately checked himself into rehab after vacating his home and putting his things into storage.”

Kansas City Chiefs fan who hosted watch party where three friends froze to death checks into rehab

The Kansas City Chiefs fan who claimed to be oblivious to his three friends being frozen to death outside his home has checked into rehab, according to a report.

nypost.com

Seems like a great way to keep everyone waiting longer for answers. Their poor families.

 

[Forest_Wood]

In the video taken by the neighbors you can see 3-6 inches of old snow and 3ish inches of fresh snow (on the truck hood)- more than enough to camouflage a body lying on the ground in the backyard-

To me, It looks about no more than 2 inches on the truck. The truck looks like it's been there for awhile. But what stands out more is the car. Look at the windshield and side windows. The snow is not covering the windows, which indicates it might not have been parked there as long as the truck. IMO.

 

[Arkay]

“After the shocking loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances, Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction,” the source said, without elaborating on the exact nature.

“He immediately checked himself into rehab after vacating his home and putting his things into storage.”

Kansas City Chiefs fan who hosted watch party where three friends froze to death checks into rehab

The Kansas City Chiefs fan who claimed to be oblivious to his three friends being frozen to death outside his home has checked into rehab, according to a report.

nypost.com

Sad but not really unexpected. In my experience, people who do drugs don’t typically hang out extensively with people who don’t.

It certainly is a wake-up call and knowing now that he may have ended up dead, I hope rehab helps him.

More evidence that being intelligent with an important job involving scientific breakthroughs does not necessarily shield one from addiction.

The plot thickens, in a way, but IMO points away from JW having nefarious intent. Just doing illegal drugs with the guys. Maybe he partook of less or maybe being indoors saved him, as has been discussed ad infinitum.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

@alcaprari23

Stopped by the medical examiner who is performing the autopsies of the #KansasCity3. An investigator there said there is a major backlog from other cases they are responsible for across the Midwest. Basically there is no more urgency in performing these toxicology reports than any other case that comes across their desk.Wouldn't give me a single other detail specific to this case, but the investigator told me they follow all best practices for autopsies. Here are some details I was able to gather that would be relevant to this case.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752777557689201032

The families of the #KansasCity3 are meeting with the Platte County prosecutor today to discuss the ongoing investigation and possibility of criminal prosecution. Family sources tell me they are frustrated with the pace of the KCPD investigation.

 

[Frostysucker]

"...families have been invited to a MEETING tomorrow with the county prosecutors at the SITE of the HOME WHERE the men DIED." (my CAPS)

Doing this w property owner's permission?
Maybe I'm overlooking something, but otherwise I'm trying to imagine how LE/prosecutor could get warrant or ct order to do this, as part of their criminal investigation.

Trying to recall any case where prosecutor has done this.
[ETA: Prosecutor arranging for fam members of deceased to visit/tour a privately owned property which is a death scene but not officially deemed a crime scene.]
Anyone?

(Some fam of 4 uni/ID students wanted to go in 1122 King House, IIRC.
Did they? IF so, that was AFTER ARREST of BK and fam had LEGAL RIGHT to the return of students' personal property. I recall the pickup trucks being loaded, but IIRC, by LE, some for evd, some back to fam.)

____________________________
^ from a post by @sunshineray (entire post):
"Just listening the NewsNation Banfield re-broadcast from last night and she's saying one of the victim's father and step mother have informed NewsNation that the families have been invited to a meeting tomorrow with the county prosecutors at the site of the home where the men died. I hope they finally can have some questions answered <3"

Is it a criminal investigation though?
LE could go in the home without a warrant, they could just ask the homeowner for access

IMO I feel like they might be asking family to meet there so they can maybe show them what they saw in terms of being able to see out the windows or things of that nature that have to do with the house.. I think it would be something like that because the families have also questioned/wondered how they were missed for that long. Maybe even to show where JW was and how he might actually be unable to hear.
So they could just be clearing up some of these types of things since family are doing all these news interviews and JW is basicly being attacked, especially if they are '100%' that he did nothing wrong or criminal.
JW's lawyer has certainly not helped this matter with the varying/inconsistent statements.
So maybe LE feels that doing this might clear up a lot of the misunderstanding, and maybe slow the misinformed accusations or assumptions being publicly made.

 

[Curiousobserver]

To me, It looks about no more than 2 inches on the truck. The truck looks like it's been there for awhile. But what stands out more is the car. Look at the windshield and side windows. The snow is not covering the windows, which indicates it might not have been parked there as long as the truck. IMO.

Some of the vehicles look like more than others, some look like they have been brushed off- could be 1 inch, could be 3, you can see the color of most of the cars is completely obscured. It looks like more than enough to make a stationary body blend in with the yard.

 

[Simply Southern]

@alcaprari23

Stopped by the medical examiner who is performing the autopsies of the #KansasCity3. An investigator there said there is a major backlog from other cases they are responsible for across the Midwest. Basically there is no more urgency in performing these toxicology reports than any other case that comes across their desk.Wouldn't give me a single other detail specific to this case, but the investigator told me they follow all best practices for autopsies. Here are some details I was able to gather that would be relevant to this case.

View attachment 479625View attachment 479626

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752777557689201032

The families of the #KansasCity3 are meeting with the Platte County prosecutor today to discuss the ongoing investigation and possibility of criminal prosecution. Family sources tell me they are frustrated with the pace of the KCPD investigation.

View attachment 479627

ODD statement for Prosecuting Attorney office. Aren't they scheduled to meet with the families?

Moo

 

[MyBelle]

I agree. I don't think prosecutors would take any family to a crime scene and map out the case for them, if they had plans to prosecute.

Maybe, the prosecutors thought they could better explain what happened and give the family closure. Maybe JW offered up the house to prosecutors.

It is odd, and not a procedure I'm familiar with. Seems to me, it will open more speculation, questions, what ifs, why nots, and more screen time with the media.

Moo..a meeting with family, prior to a press conference, would provide clarity for all.

Moo..

BBM. The house isn't considered a crime scene. I think LE's goal may be to stop some members of the families from publicly accusing JW of a crime. Such public accusations place JW's life in danger.

JMO

 

[Waffle]

@alcaprari23

Stopped by the medical examiner who is performing the autopsies of the #KansasCity3. An investigator there said there is a major backlog from other cases they are responsible for across the Midwest. Basically there is no more urgency in performing these toxicology reports than any other case that comes across their desk.Wouldn't give me a single other detail specific to this case, but the investigator told me they follow all best practices for autopsies. Here are some details I was able to gather that would be relevant to this case.

View attachment 479625View attachment 479626

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752777557689201032

The families of the #KansasCity3 are meeting with the Platte County prosecutor today to discuss the ongoing investigation and possibility of criminal prosecution. Family sources tell me they are frustrated with the pace of the KCPD investigation.

View attachment 479627

Thank you for this. Regarding number 7, if this case is classed as an accident, does that mean they wouldn't try to go after whoever gave them the drugs? I've seen it mentioned in here that sometimes people get convicted of manslaughter for supplying drugs that led to an overdose

 

[MyBelle]

“After the shocking loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances, Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction,” the source said, without elaborating on the exact nature.

“He immediately checked himself into rehab after vacating his home and putting his things into storage.”

Kansas City Chiefs fan who hosted watch party where three friends froze to death checks into rehab

The Kansas City Chiefs fan who claimed to be oblivious to his three friends being frozen to death outside his home has checked into rehab, according to a report.

nypost.com

If true (and I have serious doubts because no source is named), that story is an incredible violation of JW's personal medical history. It certainly doesn't make him guilty of a crime.

JMO

 

[MesquiteO21]

“After the shocking loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances, Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction,” the source said, without elaborating on the exact nature.

“He immediately checked himself into rehab after vacating his home and putting his things into storage.”

Kansas City Chiefs fan who hosted watch party where three friends froze to death checks into rehab

The Kansas City Chiefs fan who claimed to be oblivious to his three friends being frozen to death outside his home has checked into rehab, according to a report.

nypost.com

interesting...

we've seen "rehab" trips A LOT after someone experiences an event that makes them look suspicious. but at the same time, if 3 friends passed away in your place and you really truly didn't know because you yourself were so F-ed up, that would be enough to prompt me into rehab too (cuz i mean if not that, what would?)

guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Simply Southern]

BBM. The house isn't considered a crime scene. I think LE's goal may be to stop some members of the families from publicly accusing JW of a crime. Such public accusations place JW's life in danger.

JMO

Let's hope so. Moo

 

[December]

Just based on pictures, i think that house has an unusual floorplan. And we don't know exactly how JW was utilizing that space. For all we know, there were parts he didn't use (speculation, obviously I have no idea).

I think seeing the actual house is probably important to the explanation of what could have happened.

And this is hypothetical because I think it applies to more than only this case (also we don't know what JW told the police): if you really didn't observe something that ought to have been observable, how does that even work? I know if you're driving a car, it's still your fault. But, otherwise? If you're in a situation where you could even be asleep? I just don't know. I know people will not like it (even if nothing bad has happened). But, legally, is this even a thing? (Again, not this case, in general.)

 

[branmuffin]

Wow. Shocker. Four men got s***faced watching a football game. I think in some ways it's more perplexing to me that more men don't die through misadventure when alcohol and drugs play a role in celebrating ......fill in the blank. It's a tragedy when people lose family members from something that is so preventable.

The problem is it's a national pastime to show your support for your team by doing dumb stuff. Tailgate parties prior to a game means lots of fans are already wasted before they enter the stadium. You see guys at football games where the temperature is below zero and they have no shirt one with their bodies painted blue or whatever their team colour is. And they are always drunk and the camera loves picking out rabid fans like that. You can multiply that level of inebriation tenfold when someone is celebrating at home. Some people try it in a bar but if they get too unruly they get cut off and kicked out and left to fend for themselves. But they need to pee so their drunk self stands beside a water source like a pier, a river bank or a good fashioned ditch. They lose their balance and the next day, a hundred people have their face on a poster putting them all over town muttering about foul play. Because someone who is hurting and fearful, their first instinct is that someone else is responsible for their loved one's disappearance. You might be thinking what the hell does this have to do with Clayton, David and Ricky? Because it's similar insofar that the location is different and the missing have already been found dead but the circumstances surrounding their death has become so commonplace that the truths are being eked out in dribbles where family members are acknowledging not only alcohol may have played a role in their deaths but begrudgingly admit that they can't eliminate drugs out of the equation. The addendum to those statements is still not letting go of pointing a finger away from the deceased.

I admit that I'm surprised that JW has voluntarily entered rehab to deal with his addictions but I can't help feeling that it's a sham and that he's only doing it to level the playing field: that he was as wasted as his buddies but because he doesn't smoke, or was tired, or didn't need any fresh air, in true survivor guilt fashion he's atoning for being alive. IMO

 

[10ofRods]

Is it a criminal investigation though?
LE could go in the home without a warrant, they could just ask the homeowner for access

IMO I feel like they might be asking family to meet there so they can maybe show them what they saw in terms of being able to see out the windows or things of that nature that have to do with the house.. I think it would be something like that because the families have also questioned/wondered how they were missed for that long. Maybe even to show where JW was and how he might actually be unable to hear.
So they could just be clearing up some of these types of things since family are doing all these news interviews and JW is basicly being attacked, especially if they are '100%' that he did nothing wrong or criminal.
JW's lawyer has certainly not helped this matter with the varying/inconsistent statements.
So maybe LE feels that doing this might clear up a lot of the misunderstanding, and maybe slow the misinformed accusations or assumptions being publicly made.

Your post made me realize that surely the actual homeowner has given permission for this to happen. I am assuming JW ceased his tenancy.

It is an unusual thing to read about - perhaps it happens more than I realize.

IMO

 

[arielilane]

Video: Kansas City yard where Chiefs fans' were found dead

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752561792314741045

Video: Kansas City yard where Chiefs fans’ were found dead

The video reveals the chair where one victim, Harrington, was presumably found, and the patio where the other two men were found.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[arielilane]

Video: Kansas City yard where Chiefs fans' were found dead

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752561792314741045

Video: Kansas City yard where Chiefs fans’ were found dead

The video reveals the chair where one victim, Harrington, was presumably found, and the patio where the other two men were found.

www.newsnationnow.com

Curious if it is a camera or a light fixture between the two upstairs windows? moo

 

[sunshineray]

Prosecutor & Fam's "Meeting" at Death House?

@sunshineray Thx for responding.

Not disagreeing about ^ PURPOSE of meeting, but puzzled about -
LOCATION, at scene of deaths not officially deemed the crime scene.
And
TIMING, before autopsy reports w CoD & MoD are released.
And
TIMING, before any ARREST (maybe no arrest is imminent now. Or ever?).


Such unusual circumstances re deaths. imo

You're absolutely right. Being that it's the prosecutor and not the chief of police setting up the meeting and it being at the death house is very unusual. That threw me on om second and third thoughts about this meeting. Why not just meet at his office, right? Only thing I could think was that because of the families strife being so vocal in the media maybe the the prosecutor thought they needed to know why there were no criminal charges going to be brought against JW? Idk, it IS confusing, this meeting.