MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024 #4

[girlhasnoname]

RSBM

Some are wondering why Willis is being charged if Carson was the supplier. I'm going to guess that since the drugs were purchased days before the game/party, that Caron sold the drugs to Willis and then, Willis provided them to the deceased.

Plus Willis's fingerprints were on a bag along with Carsons according to the article.

 

[tlcya]

so it sounds like LE played the long game and slowly methodically identified Carson as Willis's regular supplier, applied all kinds of pressure and got him to flip on party host Willis. JMO

I do still believe the 3 men died in the backyard and were not moved there. Willis is lucky to be alive but still deserves his charges IMO. it's a prime example of FAFO. He will pay for procuring the drugs that killed his friends. I think he was so out of his gourd high that he truly didn't know they had gone out back and never returned.

I hope Mr. Carson didn't get too sweet a deal for flipping on Willis if he indeed flipped, because as the provider of the tainted drugs and a drug dealer, I feel like his crime is as bad if not worse. Whether he knowingly sold fentanyl tainted cocaine or not, he is in the business of selling illegal drugs and therefore assumed that risk every time he engaged in such commerce. And yet he still choose to be in that business. MOO

 

[friendlysleuther]

so it sounds like LE played the long game and slowly methodically identified Carson as Willis's regular supplier, applied all kinds of pressure and got him to flip on party host Willis. JMO

I do still believe the 3 men died in the backyard and were not moved there. Willis is lucky to be alive but still deserves his charges IMO. it's a prime example of FAFO. He will pay for procuring the drugs that killed his friends. I think he was so out of his gourd high that he truly didn't know they had gone out back and never returned.

I hope Mr. Carson didn't get too sweet a deal for flipping on Willis if he indeed flipped, because as the provider of the tainted drugs and a drug dealer, I feel like his crime is as bad if not worse. Whether he knowingly sold fentanyl tainted cocaine or not, he is in the business of selling illegal drugs and therefore assumed that risk every time he engaged in such commerce. And yet he still choose to be in that business. MOO

It’s just very sad. I’m not sure what the laws in Missouri are, but—

Indiana has “Aaron’s Law & Overdose Good Samaritan Law” , which provides legal protection for individuals who seek emergency help during a drug overdose.

If you …

1. Call 911
2. Administer naloxone (if available)
3. Stay with the person until help arrives
4. Cooperate with authorities

You are protected from arrest and prosecution for certain offenses like possession of drugs or paraphernalia. The goal is to encourage people to get help without fear of legal trouble, ultimately saving lives.

 

[ch_13]

RSBM

Some are wondering why Willis is being charged if Carson was the supplier. I'm going to guess that since the drugs were purchased days before the game/party, that Caron sold the drugs to Willis and then, Willis provided them to the deceased.

I think the specifics really matter here. Did Willis make any money from reselling the drugs? Was Willis always the procurer, or did the guys take turns? Did Willis know anything about the potency that the others did not? How does his background as a chemist play in to this?

I'm curious to see what details come out if this goes to trial.

 

[friendlysleuther]

It’s just very sad. I’m not sure what the laws in Missouri are, but—

Indiana has “Aaron’s Law & Overdose Good Samaritan Law” , which provides legal protection for individuals who seek emergency help during a drug overdose.

If you …

1. Call 911
2. Administer naloxone (if available)
3. Stay with the person until help arrives
4. Cooperate with authorities

You are protected from arrest and prosecution for certain offenses like possession of drugs or paraphernalia. The goal is to encourage people to get help without fear of legal trouble, ultimately saving lives.

After reading more about comparing similar laws for each state,
Missouri- no treatment requirements for protection

This law provides immunity from:

• Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015)
• Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074)
• Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078)
• Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105)
• Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310)
• Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320)
• Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325)
• Violation of a restraining order
• Violation of probation or parole

To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (i.e., call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes.
Source

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Anyways, this is what has made me so confused about this entire situation. I wish he would have just called 911. Do you guys think he didn’t know or wasn’t around when they did overdose?

 

[friendlysleuther]

After reading more about comparing similar laws for each state,
Missouri- no treatment requirements for protection
View attachment 568592
This law provides immunity from:

• Possession of a controlled substance (RSMO 579.015)
• Possession of drug paraphernalia (RSMO 579.074)
• Possession of an imitation controlled substance (RSMO 579.078)
• Keeping or maintaining a public nuisance (RSMO 579.105)
• Sale of alcohol to a minor (RSMO 311.310)
• Possession of an altered ID (RSMO 311.320)
• Purchase or possession of alcohol by a minor (RSMO 311.325)
• Violation of a restraining order
• Violation of probation or parole

To receive the protections under this statute, a person must actively seek medical assistance for an overdose or other medical emergency (i.e., call 911, or otherwise seek help). Under this law, the person who seeks assistance and the person who experiences the overdose or medical emergency may not be arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted or have their property subject to civil asset forfeiture under any of these statutes.
Source

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Anyways, this is what has made me so confused about this entire situation. I wish he would have just called 911. Do you guys think he didn’t know or wasn’t around when they did overdose?

Hypothetically, if he did call 911 & tried to save them, do you think he would have still been arrested & charged the same as he is today?

 

[friendlysleuther]

I think the specifics really matter here. Did Willis make any money from reselling the drugs? Was Willis always the procurer, or did the guys take turns? Did Willis know anything about the potency that the others did not? How does his background as a chemist play in to this?

I'm curious to see what details come out if this goes to trial.

Ah, a chemist.. yes.. have you seen breaking bad?

 

[Chimera]

IMO - Well, well, well. My suspicions of JW were absolutely correct all along. MOO

I concur.

 

[Chimera]

I think the specifics really matter here. Did Willis make any money from reselling the drugs? Was Willis always the procurer, or did the guys take turns? Did Willis know anything about the potency that the others did not? How does his background as a chemist play in to this?

I'm curious to see what details come out if this goes to trial.

Bbm.
All good questions.
I'm curious as well regarding the bolded.
Now that JW has been arrested & charged -- he's sleuth-able.
Imo.

 

[Leilei]

I think the specifics really matter here. Did Willis make any money from reselling the drugs? Was Willis always the procurer, or did the guys take turns? Did Willis know anything about the potency that the others did not? How does his background as a chemist play in to this?

I'm curious to see what details come out if this goes to trial.

Chemist was a nickname type of thing from high school, wasn't it? The rumors about that were never proven, IIRC. His actual career was a research scientist in AIDS related vaccine research.
If he'd been involved in this as a chemist, he'd be charged with manufacturing, wouldn't he?
IMO.

 

[STLBlues]

I think the specifics really matter here. Did Willis make any money from reselling the drugs? Was Willis always the procurer, or did the guys take turns? Did Willis know anything about the potency that the others did not? How does his background as a chemist play in to this?

I'm curious to see what details come out if this goes to trial.

Agree with specifics mattering. I have the same questions as you.

 

[Chimera]

Chemist was a nickname type of thing from high school, wasn't it? The rumors about that were never proven, IIRC. His actual career was a research scientist in AIDS related vaccine research.
If he'd been involved in this as a chemist, he'd be charged with manufacturing, wouldn't he?
IMO.

Bbm.
It's been a while.
Thanks for the reminder.

Yes, I think that may have been a nickname and JW's background was/is in aids vaccines research ?
Guess we'll find out more, now ?
Imo.

 

[Leilei]

Bbm.
It's been a while.
Thanks for the reminder.

Yes, I think that may have been a nickname and JW's background was/is in aids vaccines research ?
Guess we'll find out more, now ?
Imo.

It's going to be an interesting trial, if it actually goes to trial.
IMO.

 

[Peppery]

First time I’ve seen this but not surprising. I kinda feel like JW is only being charged because he survived.

“Another witness claimed that before heading to Willis' rental home, he saw a "large plate of cocaine allegedly supplied by Mr. Willis that everyone was using" at Harrington's home.”

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[azure]

First time I’ve seen this but not surprising. I kinda feel like JW is only being charged because he survived.

“Another witness claimed that before heading to Willis' rental home, he saw a "large plate of cocaine allegedly supplied by Mr. Willis that everyone was using" at Harrington's home.”

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The causes of death have been revealed for three Kansas City Chiefs fans who were found dead outside their friend's rental home last January.

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LE is definitely trying to make an example of Willis. However (and not intending to victim blame), that doesn't absolve the deceased of their personal responsibility. It's widely known that fentanyl is present in nearly every drug these days. Test kits are available for regular users. I don't know that I see the point of vilifying the purchaser and not the users, but we will see what charges stick.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

He's highly educated, would have known the many risks. So what did he get out of obtaining and supplying cocaine to his friends? I wonder how often this group "partied" like this?

 

[Cedars]

My understanding is there were 2 separate bags of drugs.

1 bag was pure cocaine and has been associated with Wllis.

A second bag had the fentantyl and was associated with Carson, and allegedly purchased by Harrington.

"The messages allegedly indicate Carson supplied Harrington with cocaine, Zahnd said." https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/us/kansas-city-deaths-chiefs-fans-hnk/index.html

So, if Willis only consumed his own safe, pure supply, that's why he didn't die

It appears to me the deceased Harrington shared his tainted supply with the other two, that's why they died.

I don't understand why Willis is charged with manslaughter...maybe they want him to confess or something?

 

[GeorgiaRai]

This just makes a sad story even sadder, IMO.

 

[Cedars]

No. His behavior was totally unbelievable. There's no way he didn't know they were lying dead outside, especially when you couple that with him not answering the panicked phone calls of their loved ones. This was a man with something to hide.

However, I don't understand why he left 2 baggies of drugs in his home for police to find. Flush them down, or plant them on the bodies!

"Detectives obtained consent to search the home after the bodies were found and subsequently found two “plastic bags containing white powdery substances,” https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/us/kansas-city-deaths-chiefs-fans-hnk/index.html

 

[arielilane]

He's highly educated, would have known the many risks. So what did he get out of obtaining and supplying cocaine to his friends? I wonder how often this group "partied" like this?

If this was the case with him, repetitive drug (drug addiction) use has no boundaries, it can alter brain function no matter who you are or what you have done in life. No rules apply. moo