MO - Grief and protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown

[Gardenlady]

I agree however, police don't have xray vision.

I don't think you need to have X-ray vision to see someone running away though.


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[ScarlettScarpetta]

THANK YOUk they sure do.
All the rioting and violence was becaUse <<<< the deceased DID commit a crime. just omg... So typical oft times of law breakers,

The problem is not the people.. The problem was the police dept. If they had released that DAY that there was a robbery and there was pics and video of the alleged suspect and that the officer responded to that first and then the incident took place that resulted in MB death, There would not have been any issues. Or at least not as many as now.

This police dept needs serious help.

 

[K_Z]

Oh Absolutely!

With the BOLO being released and MB knew what he had just done and then there is the police asking him to stop. And after he had just robbed a store he was not about to empty his pockets. jmo



After reading the presidents words on the matter I kinda knew it was nothing more then what it is.


http://www.ibtimes.com/president-ob...own-shooting-calls-death-unarmed-teen-1657230

I'm sure by the time the president was briefed, they had the security footage of the robbery.

 

[Gardenlady]

I don't think shooting someone to death who has assaulted a cop and wrestled with him for his gun is excessive force. I think that's justifiable force. There's even a phrase for this type of behavior - 'suicide by cop'.

So the punishment for robbery or assault should be death, in your opinion?

Especially of they're black and male, I guess?

Gods help us all.


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[Peliman]

"Strong arm" or not, there is no justification for using deadly force against an unarmed suspect.

I'm not saying the officer is justified or not but what I will ask is.

How would the officer know if he was armed or not prior to the shooting taking place?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I guess it depends... did he turn around and face the cop before raising his hands, so that the cop maybe thought he was reaching for a gun or did he raise his hands and then turn around? What really is the real truth?

He knew he did not have a gun already. And it does not matter. He was RUNNING away when he was shot first according to witnesses. If he was shot in the back I am sorry, That is wrong.

 

[Gardenlady]

I'm not saying the officer is justified or not but what I will ask is.

How would the officer know if he was armed or not prior to the shooting taking place?

And in turn I will ask you - so do you think police should shoot first just in case?

Wild West time, I guess.


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[oceanblueeyes]

I cannot believe how quickly the facts of this story has changed in just one morning. I have always felt there was way more to the story than had been told previously.

 

[EGirl]

I don't think you need to have X-ray vision to see someone running away though.


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I want to see the autopsy results to confirm a shot or shots to the back. I have wondered if the 'hands raised' description was really him being shot from inside the car and the force pushing him back with his arms flailing?

 

[JeannaT]

It's viewed as petty, and mean-spirited to come right out when a family is grieving and say well you know what, your kid is a . I don't think I usually see LE departments do that - when there's a fatal shooting, they immediately say something about tragic loss of young life. They don't say yeah well just before that did you know your kid assaulted a store clerk and we figured it was him walking down the street?

It's unseemly. But now, in light of this enormous public over reaction because they believed - based on the family's interpretation of events - that an innocent young man was shot completely out of nowhere. And the public refused to believe what is apparently true, that the guy had grabbed the cop's gun.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

This mess falls right into the Police dept lap.

They could have handled this differently. From the beginning.
They could have been forth coming with information and facts.

I really hope there is video some where of the altercation between MB and the officer. I still think there is some somewhere as each day we get more and more video.

 

[Peliman]

And in turn I will ask you - so do you think police should shoot first just in case?

Wild West time, I guess.

I didn't say he was justified or not, I have no opinion because I don't have the facts.

 

[Gardenlady]

It's viewed as petty, and mean-spirited to come right out when a family is grieving and say well you know what, your kid is a . I don't think I usually see LE departments do that - when there's a fatal shooting, they immediately say something about tragic loss of young life. They don't say yeah well just before that did you know your kid assaulted a store clerk and we figured it was him walking down the street?

It's unseemly. But now, in light of this enormous public over reaction because they believed - based on the family's interpretation of events - that an innocent young man was shot completely out of nowhere. And the public refused to believe what is apparently true, that the guy had grabbed the cop's gun.

Where do you get that it is "apparently true" that he grabbed the gun?


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[K_Z]

Not sure if these photos of the robbery got posted:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/darren-wilson-shot-and-killed-michael-brown.html

Brown looks like a big .

I think Dorian Johnson is going to be arrested and charged in the robbery as well.

 

[Gardenlady]

I didn't say he was justified or not, I have no opinion because I don't have the facts.

I know you didn't say he was justified, but your question implied that the officer shot because he didn't know that MB was unarmed.

And so I ask, hypothetically, do you think police should just always shoot first, ask questions later?


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[Irisha]

Stopped the victim for walking in the street or stopped a strong arm robbery suspect?

ULBM, Police had a discription by the time he was spotted.

 

[epiphany]

This mess falls right into the Police dept lap.

They could have handled this differently. From the beginning.
They could have been forth coming with information and facts.

I really hope there is video some where of the altercation between MB and the officer. I still think there is some somewhere as each day we get more and more video.

BBM

WTH took the Ferguson PD sooo long to release these photos we are now seeing?

 

[SStarr33]

I think Dorian Johnson is going to be arrested and charged in the robbery as well.

No doubt. And he has lost all credibility.

 

[K_Z]

It's viewed as petty, and mean-spirited to come right out when a family is grieving and say well you know what, your kid is a . I don't think I usually see LE departments do that - when there's a fatal shooting, they immediately say something about tragic loss of young life. They don't say yeah well just before that did you know your kid assaulted a store clerk and we figured it was him walking down the street?

It's unseemly. But now, in light of this enormous public over reaction because they believed - based on the family's interpretation of events - that an innocent young man was shot completely out of nowhere. And the public refused to believe what is apparently true, that the guy had grabbed the cop's gun.

I think this is exactly correct. The police probably WERE trying to be sensitive to the mother's grief, but in this case it backfired terribly. I think there is even more that will come out shortly. There are other pictures that have been withheld, IMO.

 

[Irisha]

Well, I'm about 200% sure that the store clerk involved in the robbery has been interviewed thoroughly, as well as asked to look at pictures of the deceased and his companion.

Speaking of his companion, is he still giving interviews?:moo: