MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #10

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  • #881
I've had a suspicion that both boys were threatening the DW and playing mind games with him. One of the many interviews said that at one time DW didn't know where MB's friends was - and that the friend was hiding behind the car. Does anyone else think the two were somehow involved in the initial confrontation and then it got out of hand real quickly?
 
  • #882
I'm nit picking I know, but the size of the body showing the entry wounds is also much leaner than MB. Imo MB chest and upper arm are in contact much of the time.
His size alone makes being shot from behind almost impossible at least in the upper arm anyway.
6 ft 4 and 280# is a BMI of about 33.4%..
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Oh gngr! You so smart! :loveyou:

I never even thought of that! Great point
 
  • #883
So why is Parcells signature on there if he did not actually perform the autopsy and why is his signature above Dr. Baden's? Would that be normal?

I honestly didn't even notice that. Funny how he's disappeared. Many newspapers and the blogging world exposed him, but as far as I could tell MSM, even Fox, didn't touch this story. Probably b/c they would have looked stupid for not doing their own due diligence.

The fact that Parcells had access to that body before Baden arrived could prove problematic for them during a civil trial. And quite frankly, if they had any aspirations of trying to get that "theory" in front of the GJ or at trial, it ain't never gonna happen now.

Parcells is an idiot, I can't believe he believed he could get involved in a high profile case where that County's ME knows knows his reputation.
 
  • #884
I believe MB was in motion when shot, or else it wouldn't have taken so many shots to neutralize the threat. Or OW was a bad shot. IMO.

I think the assault by MB had a lot to do with that.
 
  • #885
Jumping off your post.

IMO, if Police Chief's short, yet to the point statement is true--MB assaulted OW, a struggle for the gun ensued, and a shot was fired--then OW had no choice but to stop the the threat MB posed.

Those are the actions of an extremely dangerous, and violent person. That is a protocol that is most likely never, ever, never going to change. An officer in this situation has a duty to protect himself, and the community at large. assaulting an officer, and attempting to take his gun is never going to be an action that police are taught to tolerate, or that it's a situation which can be negotiated.

Of course this argument only holds if what the Police Chief said actually happened. And IMO, the fact that Parks has been forced to admit there was a "serious altercation, his gun coming out, and a shot fired" tells me that's exactly what happened.

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And if there were any possible way for the Brown's attorney to answer questions about Brown's assaulting the officer with anything close to "we have no evidence that Brown assaulted Wilson in the car... ", he would have.

I'm not even going to say JMO! :lol:
 
  • #886
Couldn't have been a revolver. Most revolvers are 6 shots. More than 6 shots e fired.

Liloleme: you are taking my quote out of context. The convo was about how some posters have had problems with guns that have slides (fingers jammed by them). My general reminder was that they could opt for a revolver which doesn't have a slide.
My post was nothing about what type of gun LE use.
 
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Dang ma'am! You are on a roll tonight!

What's next? Crime scene drawing with police vehicle, MB and MB's hat?

Pretty please? :please:
 
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  • #889
What mike??? Do you mean his radio?

I guess it's possible, and maybe that's how the first officer on the scene got there so quickly.

Yes, I meant his radio.
 
  • #890
No. If premeditation occurs in a blink of an eye, let alone after there is a separation of the parties involved and the second one picks up the gun or knife and shoots them 6 more times they are charged with murder. OW could have and should have (and have the training to) realize his quarry is running away, unarmed and to call for backup. Not then take out his gun and fire bullets into him.

Yes he turned around, i agree with aa to say something like "i surr3ender" but he was falling before he could get anything out.

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Do you have links to support this protocol?
 
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Nice picture, but that could just as easily represent MB falling forward as the gunfire hit him. We do not know the position of the legs, do we?


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  • #893
So was MB thinking that he was going to deflect bullets with his arms like Iron Man?

Was he thinking he was going to survive onslaught of bullets and somehow come back and get his hands on OW?

Same thing we have to think what reasonable police officer would do, shouldn't we apply some reason to what a reasonable human being in the same situation would do?

Why in the world would MB come running back to OW who at this point was pointing the gun straight at him?

MB never acted like a reasonable human being in the moments leading up to this event so no, he doesn't get that. He gets the reason that would be applied to the state of mind he showed himself to be in AND to what has been testified.
 
  • #894

Wait :waitasec: Wasn't this the guy that was all over SM saying he threw it back because there were children around and he was trying to protect them?

Or is this a different guy?
 
  • #895
Nice picture, but that could just as easily represent MB falling forward as the gunfire hit him. We do not know the position of the legs, do we?


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Doesn't matter does it?

It certainly would appear to officer Wilson to be threatening. IMO


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  • #896
And if there were any possible way for the Brown's attorney to answer questions about Brown's assaulting the officer with anything close to "we have no evidence that Brown assaulted Wilson in the car... ", he would have.

I'm not even going to say JMO! :lol:

Nor does he say, "officer Wilson physically assaulted Michael, and he had to defend himself."

Baden has shown a bias a couple of times, but thus far, he has not flat out lied. When he was on fox last night, and Judge Jeanine asked...

"It's been said that when Michael--who was 6'4 & 290+ lbs--was standing outside the officers window, OW grabbed onto him, and tried pulling him into the car. Does that something that could happen?"


He said, "it's unlikely he would be able to do that given Michaels size. Maybe if he grabbed him by the neck, but even then"

JJ: were there marks on his neck?

B: no, we checked, there were no marks on his neck"

Paraphrasing, link should be a few pages back.
 
  • #897
I've had a suspicion that both boys were threatening the DW and playing mind games with him. One of the many interviews said that at one time DW didn't know where MB's friends was - and that the friend was hiding behind the car. Does anyone else think the two were somehow involved in the initial confrontation and then it got out of hand real quickly?

No, not even once.

I don't believe the friend was involved.


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  • #898
Doesn't matter does it?

It certainly would appear to officer Wilson to be threatening. IMO


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I honestly can't see why a suspect falling upon being shot repeatedly would be threatening to a trained police officer who was shooting him. More like expected cause and effect.


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  • #899
The VMA's just had a moment of silence for MB and for peace... :thinking:
 
  • #900
The VMA's just had a moment of silence for MB and for peace... :thinking:

Well, that's nice. Don't we all want greater peace? I know I do.


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