MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #20

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Hard to believe that after running an obviously scared brown decided to bull rush an officer who had his gun drawn

Plus none of the witnesses say nor suggest that mike brown ran towards wilson once they met face to face after the on foot chase though

Some do say brown stumbled forward during which i m sure is when brown was shot in the eye than the top of the head

And it does a make a difference the matter in which brown move towards wilson.... wilson had to have been made to feel threatened. An injured man stumbling forward clutching his stomach doesnt sound like much a threat

The multiple eye witness accounts suggest to me the shots to browns arms and hand either occured when he was running away from wilson at one point or when he had his hands up

What i believe happened is there was a scuffle at the suv, wilson fired his gun, mike ran... wilson got out his suv running after him all the while shooting, mike scared or either braised by a bullet stopped to face wilson with his hands up...for whatever reason wilson kept firing as mike stumbled forward

You should also consider mike had no bruising on his knuckles fingers that would suggest he purposedly punched wilson in the face

There are eye witness that say Brown advanced.

I will never believe Browns arms were struck by bullets as he ran away.

There are witnesses that said Brown was moving toward Wilson ...Even the landscapers, if you see the entire video ...

Mike Browns behavior that day was aggressive, scary, illegal and out of control.

Officer Wilson has an exemplary record.

It's not rocket science for me to trust Officer Wilson in light of witness's that back up his version as told by his girlfriends friend & the video with guy in background, and police statement and autopsy.

It's my opinion, Darien Johnson is also telling a different story behind closed grand jury doors. That's why he's in protective custody,




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Edit to above: and the landscapers interview ...actually had Wilson backing up while shooting


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  • #823
I missed the part where the players are donating. Some might be but I read right through it and I read the article twice. Help please?!?!?!

I saw nothing saying the PLAYERS donated, only the fans,
from last Paragraph:

"Umar Lee also sent out a tweet thanking the St. Louis Rams fans who have already donated tickets to the protest. The Rams have been atrocious this season, and the Cowboys haven’t been much better. Given the poor quality of play as well as the widely publicized revelations that the NFL is an empty moral chasm of coverup and abuse, the specter of in-stadium demonstrators might actually be the only thing that makes this Sunday’s game worth watching."
 
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I was reading some comments on the Daily Mail article about the football game and all this talk about Justice for Mike Brown, etc...and one simple comment stood out to me that summed up everything I feel about the situation:

Justice WAS done.
 
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Hard to believe that after running an obviously scared brown decided to bull rush an officer who had his gun drawn

Plus none of the witnesses say nor suggest that mike brown ran towards wilson once they met face to face after the on foot chase though

Some do say brown stumbled forward during which i m sure is when brown was shot in the eye than the top of the head

And it does a make a difference the matter in which brown move towards wilson.... wilson had to have been made to feel threatened. An injured man stumbling forward clutching his stomach doesnt sound like much a threat

The multiple eye witness accounts suggest to me the shots to browns arms and hand either occured when he was running away from wilson at one point or when he had his hands up

What i believe happened is there was a scuffle at the suv, wilson fired his gun, mike ran... wilson got out his suv running after him all the while shooting, mike scared or either braised by a bullet stopped to face wilson with his hands up...for whatever reason wilson kept firing as mike stumbled forward

You should also consider mike had no bruising on his knuckles fingers that would suggest he purposedly punched wilson in the face

Bolded By Me...

What do you mean by a scuffle? If the officer didn't know about the robbery, why would there be a 'scuffle' ? How did it start? Why would a gun go off?
 
  • #827
I'm not sure I'm following. I legitimately meant they wouldn't have an interest or need to hear from her. And yes, if McCulloch wants an indictment, he can get one, even here. If he doesn't want one, he won't get one.


BBM.
I'm confused about the bolded portion of your opinion.

It's the Grand Jury that issues the indictment. Either a true bill or a no bill.

Our DA is the person who decides if a case goes to a Grand Jury here in upstate NY (unless a special prosecutor gets involved; which is extraordinarily unusual, btw) but the members of the GJ are the folks that make the decision whether a case goes to trial or plead etc...or not. I had to walk away from this case for a while to retain my sanity. Your post appears to be 2 days old. I'm uncertain if you will see it or not. If another member could clarify, TIA. It could be that I'm misunderstanding what you are conveying, reading it incorrectly or whatnot.
 
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BBM.
I'm confused about the bolded portion of your opinion.

It's the Grand Jury that issues the indictment. Either a true bill or a no bill.

Our DA is the person who decides if a case goes to a Grand Jury here in upstate NY (unless a special prosecutor gets involved; which is extraordinarily unusual, btw) but the members of the GJ are the folks that make the decision whether a case goes to trial or plead etc...or not. I had to walk away from this case for a while to retain my sanity. Your post appears to be 2 days old. I'm uncertain if you will see it or not. If another member could clarify, TIA. It could be that I'm misunderstanding what you are conveying, reading it incorrectly or whatnot.

I think what he is trying to say is that the prosecutor has a big role in which evidence is shown to the GJ. However in this case, he has already said he would have his prosecutors show EVERYTHING, and let the GJ decide what to charge or not charge.
 
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Okay, I sacrificed an hour, and took one for the team. I actually sat and watched the entire hour of Rev Al Sharpton show just now. I was really curious to see if he was going to mention the Rams game. Either to encourage or discourage the protests. He didn't say a peep. Actually never mentioned Ferguson. Although he spent the entire show on the problems in the NFL.
 
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I know we've been over this ad nauseum over the past 20 threads BUT........

How does someone know if someone else is 'obviously scared'? MB, after stealing blunts and pushing a store clerk around didn't seem 'obviously scared' when a police SUV approached him head on minutes later to get out of the street.

Is anyone absolutely sure MB was moving toward OW clutching his stomach because a couple witnesses said so out of 12 or more? (not even sure how many witnesses there are anymore, because my head hurts)

Scuffle LOL this messes me up. From the chief of police saying an eye injury, enough to take OW to the ER, was more than a scuffle. Even Brown's atty said serious altercation.

NO officer purposely shoots off his weapon inside his police SUV/car, unless of course, the felon has momentary control of the officer's weapon.

I'm not sure how some can feel that punching an officer (hey, I'll even go with an elbow in the eye at this point) AND fighting over his weapon inside a police vehicle, can think it's ok and that no way a cop should shoot a felon because of it. Yes, it's a felony to fight with an officer and grab his weapon. It's the LAW. Brown's atty even states that's what happened.

I would love a link to "MBrown had no bruising on his knuckles". I believe Baden said on a tv interview, "at this point, we cannot tell if there was bruising or not on Brown's hands". <-link in media thread.

There are also Missouri State Laws listed in the media thread.
*thank you imamaze!
 
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I saw nothing saying the PLAYERS donated, only the fans,
from last Paragraph:

"Umar Lee also sent out a tweet thanking the St. Louis Rams fans who have already donated tickets to the protest. The Rams have been atrocious this season, and the Cowboys haven’t been much better. Given the poor quality of play as well as the widely publicized revelations that the NFL is an empty moral chasm of coverup and abuse, the specter of in-stadium demonstrators might actually be the only thing that makes this Sunday’s game worth watching."

Liar! Pants are on Fire!!

we really should stop reading so much into this social media aka Twitter

and the Cards are playing with zero protesters this fine Friday evening :)
 
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Patricia Bynes, the "Democratic Committeewoman of Ferguson Township in St Louis County in MO. A delegate for MO's 1st Congressional District." Not only has Ms Bynes failed to get her peeps to vote, she's now unable to get them to protest. Protesting across the street from the police station at the nice tire company parking lot, where they've had an awning-tent for shade, folding chairs, refreshments, and still only 6 showed up?
 
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Even if OW is properly vindicated

This kind of thinking continues to bother me. Legally, OW starts out vindicated, just like everyone else. There is no burden on OW or his legal team to vindicate him. Right now, he is no more guilty of anything than you or I.
 
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