MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[popsicle]

This will get interesting real quick. Msm will make sure of it. Whipping each side up. Jmo

ciao

How are they whipping each side up?

 

[popsicle]

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.

Why keep posting something that is false? You ask where it says otherwise and it has been posted several times in response to that request.

 

[SStarr33]

Yes, it's only from the first night though I think.

Yes, and I can't find the arrest records for St. Louis County.

 

[Muffet]

Thank Goodness the DOJ and the FBI are in charge of the investigation. I think with these two independent agencies in charge, we're more likely to get to the facts of the matter, or as close to the facts as possible, given the circumstances.

I hope that peace prevails if the investigation determines the shooting was justified or if the findings are inconclusive. But with the unrest and the violence on the part of some that we've seen this past week, I fear there may be even more unrest and violence unless Wilson is indicted.

One of the things that stands out to me regarding Wilson is that he has a 6 year exemplary record serving as a police officer in both Jennings and in Ferguson. Six months ago, he earned a commendation for his “extraordinary effort in the line of duty.”

http://news.yahoo.com/photos-fergus...police-award-earlier-this-year-021255893.html

It seems to me that if he had a history of problematic behavior in the line of duty, he wouldn't have been awarded the commendation. Plus, with the FOIA, it seems to me that the press would have discovered any disciplinary actions against him if they existed.

I understand that folks are outraged that an unarmed 18 year old was shot and killed. I fully support the family and the community in their quest for answers. If it was my loved one, I'd want answers, as well. If it was my loved one, I'd be angry and hurting, too. If it was my loved one, I'd probably be blaming LE and demanding justice.

Since it's thankfully not my loved one, I can look at the situation less emotionally and wait for the facts to come out before pointing fingers.

As someone on the outside looking in, I must say that I'm opposed to vilifying an officer who, to date, seems to have exercised his sworn duty to protect and serve without violating departmental procedure or the law, as far as the public is aware. Until and unless it's proven that he was anything but the exemplary officer he's reputed to be, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in this tragic situation.

I think your post is great:thumbup::thumbup:, except that I worry about the DOJ's objectivity.

Unless I'm mistaken, they condemned the release of the surveillance video. If so, I don't trust them, even though I understand their participation might be necessary to quell others' distrust, they shouldn't do it by suppressing evidence at the expense of the officer.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Yes he did, and I heard him (or a different atty there in Ferguson- not sure) say the same thing yesterday too. Made me stop and take notice when I heard it, but I heard Crump say that today too. There must be something either in his past they know is coming out or something in toxicology or autopsy like you said, imo. They are gearing up for something seems like. But really, the only thing that matters is what happened during the shooting imo. That info isn't out yet but already many have tried and convicted Wilson of murder. To many, there's no need for all the details, that's sad.

Or due to the video of the store.

He smoked weed.

he drank beer.

This is the new way of defending the accused, you (general you) start trashing the victim. Most trials are geared this way lately..

 

[popsicle]

David Carson ‏@PDPJ 2m
#Ferguson chant

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[popsicle]

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Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench 4m
Our call for backup is being answered all over the globe. We all want #JusticeForMikeBrown and #PeaceInFerguson.
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I really don't think they needed anymore people there imo.



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Alice Speri ‏@alicesperi 44m
Jesse Jackson in #Ferguson
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Let's see...he walked with them last night and the craziness was off the hook imo.



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[SwampMama]

Bahhhh haaaa haaaaa!

Yeah, he's there to help!

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Yep, there to help himself to a good sized chuck of any money to be had. His typical standard operating procedure it to file a lawsuit or complaint, make noise and intimidate the opponent with threats of boycotts, complaints, demonstrations, etc. Then he will agree to withdraw his complaints or settle the matter if the opponent agrees to have some "training or sensitivity classes or some such BS that is put on by his cronies (and that the opposing side must pay for) and the opponent must also give "donations" to causes which the good reverend recommends (which are controlled by him or his cronies).

In the end, the real so called victims get little, little changes and the good reverend leaves town with his pockets full, on to the next publicity stunt where he can exploit the next group. He does not want to stamp out racism or anything of the sort, that would put him out of business. He makes a living fanning the flames so he can reap the rewards. Is this just my opinion? Nope, I got it straight from a group of incredibly intelligent and hardworking black colleagues who despised sharpeton, jesse jackson and others of their type. ( And I completely agree with them).

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Why keep posting something that is false? You ask where it says otherwise and it has been posted several times in response to that request.

it's not false, the Chief said it, then miraculously a BOLO came a minute later and Wilson then backed up due to seeing the description and approached DJ and MB..

I don't post false information, I just might not be on the side of the fence you or anyone else sits..

 

[JLSChook]

Yes, and I can't find the arrest records for St. Louis County.

I think you have to have a specific name to enter. I don't believe they just have a general jail log site.

 

[MyBelle]

FOX2now ‏@FOX2now 6m
Watch Capt. Ron Johnson’s amazing Michael Brown speech http://ift.tt/1oHrNns

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Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 2m
T-shirts on sale with police-style badge saying "Officer Darren Wilson - I stand by you". $7, just sold out



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Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 16m
A silent protest in support of Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, who shot Mike Brown, starting in St. Louis
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Wow. He's apologizes because he wears a police uniform? Couldn't he at least wait to see if charges are filed against Wilson before throwing Wilson under the bus?

I can't think of a better way to drive an even bigger wedge between the community and the Ferguson police department. He's doing the same thing Ray Nagin did after Katrina. Blame it on the government rather than the criminals doing the looting, torching and harm.
This Capt. Johnson seems to be cut from the same cloth.

 

[nightwatch]

How are they whipping each side up?

IMO I'm please to see supporters for the police officer. My only concern is reporters asking questions they know will garner reactions from the brown supporters. Jmo

ciao

 

[Linda7NJ]

it's not false, the Chief said it, then miraculously a BOLO came a minute later and Wilson then backed up due to seeing the description and approached DJ and MB..

I don't post false information, I just might not be on the side of the fence you or anyone else sits..

Do you think there was no BOLO? Do you believe it's a lie?


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[DeDee]

Just reposting since it seems that some are concerned IF Mike was shot in the back:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e9b5412f-2283-512e-8636-0d2bbe958c5c.html

No concern from me. The PO did not shoot MB in the back. MOO From information I have gathered over the past week, this is my timeline of the events that led to the death of Michael Brown.


1. Officer Wilson is on patrol when he sees the two men walking in the middle of the road. He pulled alongside them. He rolled down his window. He asked them to get on the sidewalk and out of the street. They refused. They mocked and cursed the officer. "We're almost where we were going."

2. His police car kept rolling forward. Officer Wilson pulled his car over and to a stop. He kept watching them.

3. While Officer Wilson's vehicle is pulled over, and while he is watching them, a call from dispatch announces a strong arm robbery.

4. Officer Wilson hears the description of the suspects and concludes that the description matches the two individuals he has encountered. He notices something in MBs hands.

5. Officer Wilson reverses his patrol vehicle to go back to where they are still walking in the center of the street.

6. Officer Wilson opens the driver's side door. However, MB slams the driver's door violently before the officer could exit.

7. Officer Wilson opens his door again and exits the vehicle but before he could close his door, he is rushed by MB and forcefully shoved back into his patrol car.

8. MB punches Officer Wilson in the face. The officer is going for his gun. MB also went for control of the gun.

9. MB has the gun pointed against the officer's hip. Officer Wilson shoves it away. One shot goes off.

10. MB takes off with his friend and accomplice.

11. Police are trained in the pursuit of a suspect. Officer Wilson stables himself. The suspects are about 35 yards away when Officer Wilson yells: Freeze!

12. MB turns around to face the officer whose gun is aimed at the suspect.

13. While continuing to walk toward the officer, MB taunts the officer "Whatcha gonna do bout it?"

14. Suddenly, Michael Brown bomb rushes Officer Wilson at full speed.

15. Officer Wilson began shooting and MB kept coming at him.

16. The final shot was to the forehead. MB collapsed a few feet from Officer Wilson after the fatal head wound.


If this timeline is accurate, IMHO, either MB had a death wish or surely the AR [autopsy report], including toxicology, will indeed indicate that, MB was using some type of hard illegal drug(s) that made him feel invincible enough to assault a police officer.

I can only imagine the fear held by this officer while being attacked in his patrol car. His ability to recover enough to confront his assaulter, and not run for the hills, makes him a Hero.

moo mhoo and all that jazz

 

[KEVINinTO]

I think your post is great:thumbup::thumbup:, except that I worry about the DOJ's objectivity.

Unless I'm mistaken, they condemned the release of the surveillance video. If so, I don't trust them, even though I understand their participation might be necessary to quell others' distrust, they shouldn't do it by suppressing evidence at the expense of the officer.

I agree. I don't think that the DOJ is objective. As we know the DOJ tried to suppress the release to the media of the video showing Brown violently robbing a store. Was Holder afraid that releasing the video would destroy the myth of a "gentle giant". That video should have been released on day one! It seems that <mod snip> Holder and Obama are intent on pouring gasoline on the fire.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Do you think there was no BOLO? Do you believe it's a lie?


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I dont' know, I'm not privy to the PD...

It's the timing. It's the feeling of cover the cops mode. Some police are rogue, have an agenda. Police have falsified info too (not saying that the case here). Many NYPD have been charged an convicted of crimes lately. Not all are trusted and you are usually able to tell what cops are corrupt..attitude matters..

 

[Amber29]

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.

I disagree with withholding the surveillance video as it goes to show the mind set MB was in at the time. Also Wilson didn't initially stop them based on the robbery but it's been stated that he backed up to them because of the BOLO.

 

[MyBelle]

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.

The officer's weapon discharged in his cruiser. He was injured in the face. At that point in time, MB became a threat to the officer's safety and to the public's safety.

The video could not be held if the media were filing FOI requests. It's been linked here repeatedly.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

I disagree with withholding the surveillance video as it goes to show the mind set MB was in at the time. Also Wilson didn't initially stop them based on the robbery but it's been stated that he backed up to them because of the BOLO.

I sense your frustration. These facts have been repeatedly backed with links. The video could NOT be withheld. Not sure why some don't want to believe it or try to twist it into some sort of conspiracy.

JMO

 

[cady]

Why keep posting something that is false? You ask where it says otherwise and it has been posted several times in response to that request.

Is it false??? Maybe I missed the posts, but my understanding is that Wilson was not responding to the BOLO. I know that the Chief said he wasn't then later said he was and then later said he wasn't. Can you please post the most current statement that as a matter of fact, Wilson was responding to a suspicion that MB was a suspect in the robbery? TIA. JMO