MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

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Tim Pool feed kind of freaking me out.
 
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The message should be... "Calm the hell down and wait for the investigation to reach a conclusion."
If a young man was gunned down for no reason the killer will be prosecuted.
If it was a justified shooting, than that's what it was.
Let the investigators do their job and stop adding to the problems of the community!

All IMO


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I'm all for peaceful protest...and our Constitution allows for it. However, someone has to rethink these demonstrations because the violent few are ruining it for the rest who want to voice their opinions.
I wish I had as much faith as you in the system working...pray that it will.
 
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I usually don't follow all these cases.But I am very much this one. So far I believe him and the lady that called in that this happened like she said it did. He was very rough and bullying with that poor man in the store. Maybe possibly he was with this police officer too. Maybe he did bum rush him. I am trying not to make any decisions on what I feel happened until I hear more on the autopsy and FBI and others investigations. But right now I believe this officer. When did it become ok to do assault and battery on a law officer?

finding her (Friends) story

http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/
 
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Tim Pool feed kind of freaking me out.

He said when the gunshots went off, he heard someone say they couldn't feel their leg.

This is madness!!!
 
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I wanted to add - I'd LIKE to see a sit in, but it sounds from reports like that won't happen tonight. Sounds like the adults are at home and the hotheaded youth are out instead. Concerned protestors really need to show up!


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Were you watching the LIVE feed? It was not a civil rights protest, imo. It was a huge outdoor House Party. KIds literally dancing in the middle of the streets. Partying, high fivin, laughing, holding their hands up and chanting here and there. Meanwhile there are hot heads running around with molotov cocktails to throw at the cops and some have guns and there was at least one shooting that we know of.

I grew up in Berkeley. I have taken part in a hundred plus sit-ins, marches and civil rights or anti-war protests over the years. THis was nothing like that, imo. This was just an excuse to run around and act wild in the streets and throw chit at the cops.
 
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Trying to remember that ferguson has a population of over 21,000. At least 20,000 people need the LE there to protect them from these few criminals. Jmo
 
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that protesting injustice has a proud civic tradition. My issue with protests of the current type is that people are protesting what they have concluded is injustice without all the necessary information to arrive at that conclusion. To me, the time to protest an individual incident such as this, is after the justice system has failed to do it's job. I don't even understand what these protestors want. I know they want the officer indicted. But the necessary process to deterine whether an indictment should issue has not concluded yet. You can't indict someone without due process just because a crowd wants you to. I really don't get leaders of any sort encouraging this type of protest. To me, it's the let's do away with due process protest. I'm never going to get on board that one, no matter who is advocating it.

And now, the officer has protestors supporting him. To me, that is equally premature. I am sympathetic though, to the idea of supporting him in the sense that there is an absence of proof that what he did was unlawful. I can appreciate that people want to give this police officer, who is without a history of excessive violence or misconduct, support in view of how he has been villified. I have to admit to feeling worried about him. I can't imagine what it must be like to be the focus of so much hate & rage, especially if what he did was lawful. He isn't even being accused, it's already been decided on the national stage that he's guilty of a horrible crime, of executing a person for absolutely no reason while the person was surrendering. Just because he's a public servant doesn't mean we can throw away his rights to due process. But my protest would be more about that, reserving judgment until the facts are in evidence, letting the justice system decide if what the officer did was lawful instead of just making an emotional decision loudly, on the public stage.



Some people believe protesting what they see as an injustice IS doing good. Protests have led to better labor laws, an end to segregation, helped sway public opinion on the Vietnam war, helped being attention to many, many issues over the years.

If you are looking for more "concrete" good, look through twitter using the #ferguson tag. Many good pics and interviews with just regular folks who come out in the mornings after the protests and the later trouble to clean up. Regular folks who protested the day or evening before helping clean up looted stores. Folks who lined up to protect businesses.

Many of these stories you won't find in MSM. For these and more long-term-good try hitting some of the indie black media. There is great reporting out there of great stories at community level. Just because the public doesn't see or hear them doesn't mean they aren't happening!


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It is. However if people are protesting quietly and not looting or rioting they should be allowed to do that as well too!

Yes, they are permitted to protest quietly.

Thank goodness for that right, yes?

I agree with you. Although, perhaps you misunderstood my original intent with my original questions. Sometimes it gets a bit confusing here, unless quotes are quoted completely or bolded with the entirety of the original post.

In my original post I was asking questions regarding another members statement.

What I am seeing now and what I have seen in the past does not indicate to me in that these protests are civil, quiet and productive. Quite the contrary. There are young children at this protest, however most are adults.
 
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I'm interested in hearing your opinion on that. Could you flesh it out?


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The people rioting were looking for an excuse to do so. Simple as that.
 
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ALL Bullets fired in his front.

And that is Baden's report. Four to his arm, two to the head. Fatal bullet into the top of his head, which tends to support the theory he was aggressively moving toward the Officer with head lowered.

JMO
 
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/1...least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0&referrer=

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

So there you have it, he was NOT shot in the back. It seems he was facing the officer and likely charging towards him. The initial bullets were to the right arm which apparently did not stop him.
 
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ALL Bullets fired in his front.

My opinion is the protestors will not read this. This is a very sad case in so many ways. Have cable TV news stations reported this?
 
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