MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #5

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  • #541
Let's think about eye witness accounts, shall we? DISCLAIMER: Text edited minimally by me.


Watch The Video BEFORE You Read the Story! Pay close attention!

This video is of actual Detectives attempting to stop a CRIMINAL in Chicago in real time. This Video was taken by a Police Officer Videographer who, was also in harm's way.


[video=youtu;fbPjRCQv5Ko]http://youtu.be/fbPjRCQv5Ko [/video]

DON'T READ UNTIL YOU WATCH THE VIDEO!

WHAT DID YOU SEE???? Officers ordered the suspect to put the assault rifle down, and that is what he is doing. Right? It appears he is complying and then they shoot him!!!

OMG, he is shot! Is that what you saw? Do you want to know what it is like to work the streets as a cop, and what risks our Officers face daily? Watch the video again... Watch the suspect's right hand while he places the rifle down with his left hand. What you don't see by facing this Criminal face to face, but the Officer behind the suspect does see, is the suspect pulling a hidden handgun from his rear pants, with his right hand. {back-up yells "Gun" before firing}

Watch as the bad guy goes down..... the handgun is still in his right hand. What you think you see does not always tell the truth.

Our Officers lives are always in Jeopardy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbPjRCQv5Ko

moo omho mho and all that jazz
 
  • #542
Yep. No signal. Sigh. I'm done. Big day tomorrow. Night peeps.
 
  • #543
Feeds back. Lol
 
  • #544
I will watch the video and read your comments after the press conference. IF the press conference ever gets started!
 
  • #545
did they ever have a presser?
 
  • #546
Can't believe they havent had it yet. lol

They must have been waiting for me. We were out of milk and eggs today and I got so busy watching/reading I never went to the market. Just before hubby went to bed he looked in the fridge and 'casually' asked if we were going to have milk for coffee tomorrow. OOPS~~~~
Just ran to 7/11 and was sure I'd missed the presser....
 
  • #547
No news on twitter. Twitter folks waiting for press conference too. Did find this interesting article.
Hedy Epstein, 90-Year-Old Holocaust Survivor, Arrested During Ferguson Protest http://ift.tt/1rPU0G1
 
  • #548
Lost the live stream again.
 
  • #549
  • #550
Any ideas what this press conference will reveal?
only thing I heard was a teaser from Johnson that he wasn't happy with some of the media and would explain further
 
  • #551
on CNN they just said they were 'standing by' for an update from Johnson
 
  • #552
Well I cant wait anymore. I told the kids we need to start waking up for school this week with school starting next week. Need to be up at 6 so I guess I better go.
 
  • #553
only thing I heard was a teaser from Johnson that he wasn't happy with some of the media and would explain further

LOL After looking at twitter, the media is very unhappy with Johnson! This should be a good press conference especially if he lets the press ask questions.
 
  • #554
Right as I try to go to bed cnn says stand by grr okay 5 minutes then Im out.
 
  • #555
Right as I try to go to bed cnn says stand by grr okay 5 minutes then Im out.

Since live stream is down, I guess I will watch CNN for the press conference.
 
  • #556
"Do not throw objects at the police"

It says a lot about the mindset of anyone who would have to be instructed to not throw anything (rocks) at a cop.

An intelligent person should know better, but, here we are.

If this wasn't such a serious situation, it would be comedic.

"Please stop throwing objects"

Some people are in dire need of constant adult supervision.

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Sorrell sky- This is not exactly a direct response to your post. It started as one, but it got away from me. I am using it as a springboard, because there have been many posts with similar thoughts expressed. Any time I use the word you, I am referring to the general reader, not you specifically, except in this section. Don't feel like you have to respond or that I expect one. Unless, you are really moved to reply, then feel free.

Everyone Else- If this is pretentious or you disagree, point your wrath at me. Leave Sorrel sky out of it. If there is anything that rings false or absurd let me know.

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People are frustrated and don't feel like they are treated as American citizens but as second class in the country of their birth. A man was gunned down in the street and the LE seems to be dragging their feet on investigating it compared to if the roles were reversed. Then instead of using community policing, the LE act like an occupying force. It isn't this one shooting incident that is causing this reaction, it is just the latest in a series, the biggest one being the scarcity of jobs for 18-30 yo. It is the old straw that broke the camel's back cliche.

I have heard more than once in these threads "where are the MLK's" or "MLK must be rolling over in his grave." Well people are intimidated into not channeling their inner MLK or Ghandi, because they were assassinated for their beliefs. An entire vanguard of leadership was wiped out in the 1960s, when JFK, Macolm X, MLK, and RFK were assassinated. The civil rights and left have never really recovered from that loss of leadership. Jesse Jackson as far as I can tell was no more than a security presence for MLK at the time of the assassination. The status quo is perfectly happy with leaders like Sharpton and Jackson, because they are not very effective and can be bought off with bribes if they ever stumble onto an effective message or method to provoke change.

Then you have lottery winners like Oprah who uses most of her wealth to make more money and allots more of her charity to African causes than here in the US. Or Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Kenya who making a living by asking those without to live vicariously through their lyrics and exploits. Others like Russell Simmons preach taking care of their own when on MSNBC or Real-time w/Bill Maher, but has no problem promoting "credit" cards that ask poor people to pay 15-20% surcharges to use their own money to restore their credit. MSNBC gives the illusion of caring during a story like this or Trayvon Martin, but other than a media firestorm like this other than the odd poorly researched Chris Hayes report on shootings in Chicago or gentrification impacts in Brooklyn on poor brown kids (African-American and Hispanics), nary a peep out of Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews. Lawrence O'Donnell only cares about Kids in Africa, kids in Atlanta he couldn't be bothered unless there is a controversial shooting. The rest of the time they are arguing about the stupidest Republican, or which Tea Party leader is the biggest racist. Fox goes in the other direction and stokes the fears and resentments of older Americans. Bill O'Reilly is demonizing and practically begging for one of his "patriots" to take care of a late term abortion provider. While Sean Hannity is praising a tax cheat and a squatter like Cliven Bundy.

A brave intelligent man with limited resources doesn't play a game that is rigged against him. He either changes the game (revolution) or quits (suicide). Most of us aren't that brave or intelligent so we muddle through with rationalizations, like I am not personally a racist, I give to charity, or I vote, so I can't possibly be part of the problem.

Think of it on a personal level. If your own young adult child (19 years old) attempted suicide, because he/she could not figure out a better way to communicate his/her rage of being ignored, lost, and hopelessness, I would hope you would not berate their intelligence or ignore their mental health problems by telling them they have only themselves to blame. You would get them mental health professionals as soon as possible and do everything in your power to get them the resources necessary to lead a productive and happy life if possible. Why, because you provided them with half their genetic makeup and provided their environment that created this crisis. Even if your child made some some poor personal choices along the way and you felt like you were the best parent you could be, you would feel a responsibility for how their life has turned out so far.

Well, in the American experience African-American's have been dealt a pretty lousy hand. Slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, redlining, racial bias in LE, etc. have left a lingering impact that 50 some years of theoretical equality have not been able to eradicate. They have seen foreign waves of Irish, Italians, Chinese, Germans, etc., face a generation of harsh racism or bias, but be accepted into the American Melting Pot as full americans with standards of living and wealth comparable to white Americans that have been here for generations. Yet, african-americans get passed by these new ethnic group.

Yes there are success stories like Oprah or a great athlete that makes more money in a week or month, than most of us will in a lifetime. However, those are the exceptions, not the rule. Under that unrealistic standard, why aren't all white American's as rich as Warren Buffet or Bill Gates? That is an absurd standard, but some people hold african-americans to that standard if they complain about the current power structure.

When a large part of our fellow native born citizens feel like acting like child when on the national stage in the words of some posters, maybe we should start treating them as adults with full rights afforded by the Constitution. What we are doing now does not seem to be working.
 
  • #557
Regarding Shawn Parcells, the "assistant" to the eminent Dr. Baden, who conducted the private family second autopsy of MB.

Decide for yourself how much weight to give to his "work" and his "professional opinions." I can't link ALL the professional blog comments about him lol! I might ask a mod if those sites can be linked, but there is enough on the authorized sites to keep one busy reading for a while. I understand why the Brown family attorneys contracted his business, but I'm baffled why anyone keeps giving this man a microphone to talk. (Oh. Wait. Maybe I'm not baffled at all, lol!) Incidentally, Shwan Parcells also has a ministry business, Shawn Parcells Ministries. (Can't link all the blogs there either.)

Apparently, there is a lot of $$ to be made in the "private autopsy" business. Average price is $3000 cash. Nice WSJ article on same. Lots of outsourcing from counties and municipalities to private companies-- largely unregulated. That seems to be a bit of a problem to me for criminal cases, or insurance cases, etc.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_0662e5b1-dcfa-578f-9487-8ab6a176ea4d.html

http://cjonline.com/news/2011-10-25/private-autopsy-practice-provide-options

http://www.linkedin.com/company/parcells-forensic-pathology-group

http://www.macon.com/2011/09/30/1725025/doctor-baby-not-shaken-to-death.html

Shawn L. Parcells, a forensic pathologist assistant and founder of Parcells Forensic Pathology Group, testified an underlying infection likely led to disseminated intravascular coagulation.

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2011/09/30/1725025/doctor-baby-not-shaken-to-death.html#storylink=cpy

http://www.newspressnow.com/life/article_c5095f57-6395-52e0-9128-9fa0e0460e66.html?mode=jqm

By transporting the body from the funeral home to the morgue in his black SUV and bringing along his own autopsy tools, he saves coroners both time and money.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748703673604575550622802772994

http://www.nationalautopsyservices.com/

Lol-- here is a RECENT article that refers to him as "Professor Shawn Parcells!" His sum total of "professor" experience was ONE DAY of shadowing. He has no degree higher than a bachelor's degree. (Lol-- not even university "faculty", contract or affiliate, would try that stunt! Talk about credential inflation, whoooweee!) But WAIT!! Now he's an "instrumental participant". Or is he a Professor? Which is it? Getting whiplash here from all the fake credentials flying around!

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...n-preliminary-autopsy-michael-baden/14233029/

Professor Shawn Parcells, an instrumental participant in the autopsy evaluation, said Brown could have survived five of the wounds, but one, which hit the apex of his head, went through is brain and was not survivable.

You know, sometimes one just has to stop looking. There is just too much out there about this man's invented credentials for me to give a single instant of respect to anything he has to say clinically. He needs desperately to STFU, IMO. Or the media need to get a REAL "google clue" about this man!
 
  • #558
New twitter post from Tim Pool:

Tim Pool ‏@Timcast 8m

We are all back getting some rest and some of us working through the night. We will be here tomorrow covering events in #Ferguson as well.
 
  • #559
Why are cable news networks using Parcells as an "expert"? The more I read about him, the worse he looks.
 
  • #560
Why cable news networks using Parcells as an "expert"? The more I read about him, the worse he looks.

Because Parcells is the one willing to say what they are trying to sell. jmo
 
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