MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #6

[popsicle]

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[EvilSoup]

I'm gonna take a much needed break from my own frustration and watch some stupid mindless fluffy stuff...like Dance Moms...or something.

BBL

Everyone please stop posting until I return, especially if anything major happens...wait till I get back..lol


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Weelllll. Maybe. But I'm gonna need some wine and cheese straws.

And even then, I'm not promising.....

 

[popsicle]

I think you are being kind of unfair in saying that the 'mentality' here is that everyone is the same race so they are all the same. I have not seen that said here at all. jmo

ps= my own kids are mixed race. I would never say they were exactly the same as all other mixed race people. So I dont like that assumption being made against the 'mentality' here. jmo

TY I have a son and daughter who are mixed black/white.

 

[Lovejac]

Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 4m
Owner, Muhammad, said two hours ago that he would stay open til 10, per usual. But he just locked the door.
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Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 4m
Jacques Wilson, 28, of north St. Louis, on tonight: "It depends on how forceful they are. I'm still going to stay."
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Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 5m
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Some say man shot here today had been accused of shoplifting here.
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Did Jacques Wilson not get the memo that there is no curfew?

Or did they reinstate the curfew?

 

[katydid23]

Sounds like we are in for a bumpy ride tonight:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Ferguson-MO-Protests&p=10877681#post10877681

 

[Starry Night]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?253894-Scanner-Thread-Ferguson-MO-Protests/page7

2071 on scanner-

just in case you don't know exactly what police deal with on a daily basis

 

[nightwatch]

Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 57s
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Handing these out at Riverview and McLaren, site of today's police-involved shooting:
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Oh no!!

ciao

 

[Lovejac]

Is anyone watching Dr Drew.

I want to know who this TH is.

 

[popsicle]

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Lilly A. Fowler ‏@LillyAFowler 27m
Quiet again in #Ferguson as the sun sets. Folks just milling about. About 250 or so spread across W. Florissant.
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[bettybaby00]

Watching Megan Kelly

They are discussing case, and said reporter tweet "12 witness confirm Wilson version" has had to walk that statement back? :dunno:

Btw she's out on maternity leave.

Also talking about how governor is "rushing to judgement"

 

[Lovejac]

She is calling out the mainstream media trying to sanitize what we are seeing.

BTW she is mixed race, she's in the bottom right corner.

She's saying that the video they released of MB should have been released. She says the video doesn't paint MB in a bad light, MB and his actions put him in a bad light.

 

[bettybaby00]

I was trying to reply to Frydaddy's post about witness statements earlier and then the thread closed on me!

When this first broke and MBs friend Dorian started making statements to the media, his recounting of events was too over the top for me. He made his version of events too hard to believe. I went back and looked up one of his initial interviews. You can't tell a story like this and make it so outrageous, cause when you do IMO it only makes it that much more harder to prove, and so far the evidence completely contradicts much of what he's stating.

FERGUSON, Missouri —

“I saw the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” said Dorian Johnson, 22. “Then I saw the fire come out of the barrel.”

Johnson, in an exclusive interview with msnbc, said what began as an order by a police officer to ‘get the f— onto the sidewalk’ quickly escalated into a physical altercation and then, gunfire.

“I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close,” said Johnson, who said he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer when the first of several shots was fired at the teen. Johnson says he feared for his life as he watched the officer squeezing off shot after shot.


About 20 minutes before the shooting, Johnson said he saw Brown walking down the street and decided to catch up with him. The two walked and talked. That’s when Johnson says they saw the police car rolling up to them.

The officer demanded that the two “get the f—k on the sidewalk,” Johnson says. “His exact words were get the f—k on the sidewalk.”

After telling the officer that they were almost at their destination, Johnson’s house, the two continued walking. But as they did, Johnson says the officer slammed his brakes and threw his truck in reverse, nearly hitting them.

Now, in line with the officer’s driver’s side door, they could see the officer’s face. They heard him say something to the effect of, “what’d you say?” At the same time, Johnson says the officer attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into Brown and bounced closed. Johnson says the officer, with his left hand, grabbed Brown by the neck.


“I could see the muscles in his forearm,” Johnson said. “Mike was trying to get away from being choked.”

“They’re not wrestling so much as his arm went from his throat to now clenched on his shirt,” Johnson explained of the scene between Brown and the officer. “It’s like tug of war. He’s trying to pull him in. He’s pulling away, that’s when I heard, ‘I’m gonna shoot you.’”

At that moment, Johnson says he fixed his gaze on the officer to see if he was pulling a stun gun or a real gun. That’s when he saw the muzzle of the officer’s gun.

“I seen the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” he said. “He had it pointed at him and said ‘I’ll shoot,’ one more time.”

A second later Johnson said he heard the first shot go off.

“I seen the fire come out of the barrell,” he said. “I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close.”

Johnson says he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer. He looked over at Brown and saw blood pooling through his shirt on the right side of the body.

“The whole time [the officer] was holding my friend until the gun went off,” Johnson noted.

Brown and Johnson took off running together. There were three cars lined up along the side of the street. Johnson says he ducked behind the first car, whose two passengers were screaming. [/b]Crouching down a bit, he watched Brown run past.

“Keep running, bro!,” he said Brown yelled. Then Brown yelled it a second time. Those would be the last words Johnson’s friend, “Big Mike,” would ever say to him.

Brown made it past the third car. Then, “blam!” the officer took his second shot, striking Brown in the back. At that point, Johnson says Brown stopped, turned with his hands up and said “I don’t have a gun, stop shooting!”

By that point, Johnson says the officer and Brown were face-to-face. The officer then fired several more shots. Johnson described watching Brown go from standing with his hands up to crumbling to the ground and curling into a fetal position.[/b]

“After seeing my friend get gunned down, my body just ran,” he said. He ran to his apartment nearby. Out of breath, shocked and afraid, Johnson says he went into the bathroom and vomited. Then he checked to make sure that he hadn’t also been shot.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-continue/13989945/

I've bolded many parts, many of which are simply too outrageous to be believable, and a good number of them the evidence thus far flatly contradicts.

But I guess some believe it.

BTW hi Islandmixed :seeya:

I feel much of what he says in this recounting is what has fueled so much of the outrage in Ferguson. Outrage that refuses to acknowledge and accept that this is a process, and sometimes it can be a lengthy one. This is why Pres. obama, Holder, the senator I quoted earlier, and the governor are doing a great disservice with their words and actions.

If Wilson is found to have acted egregiously in his duties as an officer, then the investigation will prove that.

But where is the process of justice amid the chants of....

"who do we want.....Wilson!"

"How do we want him...dead!"

This is fueled by more than a few elected officials, and civil rights leaders asserting that MB was executed....why? B/c he was shot multiple times? That doesn't answer why it happened, and until all the evidence is reviewed we won't know what those answers are.

As a mother my heart hurts to think about either of my 2 kids dying in such a way. But I also have a great deal of empathy toward this cop. A cop that doesn't have a bad record, and who I'm sure didn't wake up that day and think, "gee, today I'm going to kill someone."


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[Lovejac]

Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 57s
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Handing these out at Riverview and McLaren, site of today's police-involved shooting:
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Whoa!

 

[Phoebeb]

I missed that- she said reporter has to retract that 12 witness confirm Wilson's version? Was that man she was talking with from PD?

Watching Megan Kelly

They are discussing case, and said reporter tweet "12 witness confirm Wilson version" has had to walk that statement back? :dunno:

Btw she's out on maternity leave.

Also talking about how governor is "rushing to judgement"

 

[KEVINinTO]

Thank you! I really hope he screwed up and used the wrong word and meant to say investigation instead of prosecution.

Nixon is a former Attorney General for Missouri so I can't imagine him mixing up these two words. Prosecution involves arresting someone first and I am surprised that there has been no uproar over his comments. I would have expected to see headlines by now "Governor Nixon call for arrest of officer Wilson". I suppose it hasn't sunk in yet or the significance of his wording is lost on most of the journalists .

 

[EvilSoup]

Also, another for the IMO true victims in this incident, the LEO and the shopkeeper.

Again, have Mods or Admin stated who we can consider the victim here?

I have never read a thread where there was so much leeway allowed on a deceased person without them having been named a POI or perp.

That has not happened here. I have asked mods several times about what is allowed, since this thread is obviously not like the others, but I have had no reply.

I wanted to just keep quiet, but this is just over the top. And it makes no sense. In one case a dead child's convicted molester dad is off limits because he is a victim. Why isn't MB afforded the same consideration?

Neither has been convicted in their relevant cases. But MB's juvie record is talked about often, where the SO dad and whole family is protected from any speculation or discussion.

I really want to know why?

Sorry if this is against TOS, but I asked for help and got no answer, and I went back and read the rules, and this thread is not compliant, IMO.

I hope I don't get TO'd. I really did ask, and read and re-read the rules. I just don't get it.

 

[popsicle]

Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 44s
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Business owner, citing fear, hauled goods out of shop she rents from Ald Dionne Flowers.

 

[Wysteria]

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Thank you. You are a peach flavored popsicle LOL
:star: A gold star for you.

IMO this particular reporter is biased and some/most of the things that he has stated; I have "issues" with. At least I'm able to see what's going on via his video recorder and make up my own mind as to what is really going on.
I really like Tim though.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

A very very good defense attorney will get him off. Does Officer Darren Wilson have a good defense attorney to look after his interest and him? It's just good to get one now.

I SURE hope so! He shouldn't suffer because of the damn protests going on!

 

[popsicle]

Again, have Mods or Admin stated who we can consider the victim here?

I have never read a thread where there was so much leeway allowed on a deceased person without them having been named a POI or perp.

That has not happened here. I have asked mods several times about what is allowed, since this thread is obviously not like the others, but I have had no reply.

I wanted to just keep quiet, but this is just over the top. And it makes no sense. In one case a dead child's convicted molester dad is off limits because he is a victim. Why isn't MB afforded the same consideration?

Neither has been convicted in their relevant cases. But MB's juvie record is talked about often, where the SO dad and whole family is protected from any speculation or discussion.

I really want to know why?

Sorry if this is against TOS, but I asked for help and got no answer, and I went back and read the rules, and this thread is not compliant, IMO.

I hope I don't get TO'd. I really did ask, and read and re-read the rules. I just don't get it.

PM a MOD