MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #6

[MyBelle]

Link please. Mods have stated no suspects have been named in this case, which is why everyone is fair game.

Thanks.

This is the second time I've posted this link tonight.

a police report calling Brown a suspect.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...d-18-year-old-michael-brown-article-1.1904539

 

[nightwatch]

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Rawan ‏@itsRawanE 5h
#Ferguson has reached Istanbul. This is during a soccer match. RT@G_Coppo: Besiktas fans. Istanbul, Turkey
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Other countries wagging finger at US

http://abcnews.go.com/US/international-critics-turn-tables-wag-finger-us-ferguson/story?id=25039992

ciao

 

[katydid23]

The report claims that DJ has admitted to investigators that MB struck DW and fought for the gun, i.e. he changed his previous statements. This seems believable to me because DJ made statements previously to the media (and I presume police) that have now been proven false. He claimed that MB was shot in the back which has been proven false by the autopsy report. I suspect that his attorney probably advised him that he was in serious legal jeopardy for making false statements and probably arranged immunity from prosecution in exchange for making a full confession.

If in fact this is what has happened it seems strange to me that a GJ was convened. Not even the proverbial "ham sandwich" could get indicted with this set of facts.

Given the source of this information - a local (albeit small) media outlet - I think we can give weight to this report.

From what I read, the GJ is automatically convened every Wednesday. So that part was easy.

But I think they are FORCED to either go to a GJ or have a Probable Cause hearing. They have to do one of those things because if McCulloch just decided on his own not to bring charges, Ferguson would go up in smoke , imo.

 

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Jesse Bogan ‏@JesseBogan 3m
Police officer says people can protest all night. He doesn't care. "I am gettin' paaaaaid." #ferguson

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Rory Carroll ‏@rorycarroll72 15m
'We young, we strong, we pushing all night long' Nary a hooligan in sight. #ferguson

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[CARIIS]

Well guys I thank you for an infmative and learning experince today. I hope to discover after awakening tomm that Ferguson is still there! Retiring these error prone typing fingers!

Goos night all!

 

[jggordo]

The report claims that DJ has admitted to investigators that MB struck DW and fought for the gun, i.e. he changed his previous statements. This seems believable to me because DJ made statements previously to the media (and I presume police) that have now been proven false. He claimed that MB was shot in the back which has been proven false by the autopsy report. I suspect that his attorney probably advised him that he was in serious legal jeopardy for making false statements and probably arranged immunity from prosecution in exchange for making a full confession.

If in fact this is what has happened it seems strange to me that a GJ was convened. Not even the proverbial "ham sandwich" could get indicted with this set of facts.

Given the source of this information - a local (albeit small) media outlet - I think we can give weight to this report.

Do you have a link to this article? I believe there is a big difference between giving a report to CNN or the like and giving the FBI a sworn statement and actually being deposed to give testimony under oath. If he was trying to lie to the FBI and they knew based on autopsy and DNA from gun and the police car it was a crock what he was saying, I'm sure they advised him and his attorney what the penalties would be for lying. Could have been a real revelation for him.

JMO's

 

[CHERIE.T]

I do. I also hope they have arranged for protective custody for Mr. Johnson and his family. It is a toxic environment he is in and it takes a lot of courage to tell the truth.

Surely LE will provide protection. If this report is true, it shows what a good, honest man Johnson is.

 

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Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 4m
The barely concealed subtext of this sign. Please don't hurt us.

 

[Starry Night]

I've read some posts here about if this is a race issue or not. The actual incident had nothing to do with race.
However, I ask who is making it about race now?

To bring some levity into this mess I will share that I would not mind being stuck in an elevator with Denzel Washington for and hour or 4 LOL. Yummy he his.

You would not mind?
What does that mean? That because he is so handsome/famous/rich/intelligent whatever-that you would mind otherwise? Please explain.............

 

[Phoebeb]

Me too, exactly- had just seen that choke hold in NYC and was sickened, then thought this was the same type situation until I read details. I agree with someone interviewed tonight that justice works both ways.
As for the gov, I believe he is pandering to his base... sorry to be cynical, but that's how I see it.

I saw the video of the poor heavy set man choked to death in New York and feel THAT was excessive force by a police officer and that police officer was guilty of the bare minimum of manslaughter. So when I heard this story, I thought, oh here we go again...until I watched the information come in...it is painfully obvious and clear to anyone paying any attention that this is FAR from what was first served up to us by initial reports. The initial story was of an unarmed teenager innocently walking to his grandmas that was gunned down as he had his hands in the air, begging for his life. But almost every portion f this story has been ruled out. He was far from a "Gentle Giant" as clearly shown in the video. He was shot in the front, not in the back. Witnesses have been corroborating the cops story more and more. The guy was bumrushing the cop. At the very least, it should be incumbent upon ANY responsible person in the media or government to literally tell everyone to shut up and go home and let justice take its course. But there is so much invested in this already, that there seems to be no turning back, and this is no longer about this young man, or this poor cop. It never will be. Everyone take a breath! Go home. Let the world take a turn. Let the justice system do its job. Let people like the Governor of Ohio shut up and Eric Holder to STAY OUT OF IT!!! But they just can't help themselves, can they? Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, even Obama, just cannot stay out of it, and God forbid they tell the masses that there is a better than good chance that they are WRONG!!! No one is even interested in hearing any of the evidence. Even the governor wants this cops head on a platter - prosecuted to the full extent of the law. With absolutely not a shred of evidence presented in any court of law whatsoever??? It is so irresponsible and this has become an out of control situation careening toward a full blown catastrophe if some cooler heads don't get in there and prevail! ENOUGH!!!!

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

Tim Pool

Swoon.....


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He really does need to get some sort of award for his efforts.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

media is providing protestors with water

 

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Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 17s
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Many said they had been going to Ferguson every night to protest but shifted protest to here tonight.

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Robert Cohen ‏@kodacohen 2m
Peaceful rally at #Ferguson police station. #MikeBrown
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Robert Cohen ‏@kodacohen 4m
Tears at a peaceful rally at the #Ferguson police station. #MikeBrown



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Paul Hampel ‏@phampel 3m
#Ferguson #NorthSTL Situation here calming down. But about 50 young men still hanging around mkt door.

 

[Frydaddy]

When did I say such a thing? NEVER!

I only said that, in accordance with Mod statements, the investigation is still open, so all speculation is within TOS, excepting the families.

There has been no evidence, either, that MB needed killing. Until the investigation is complete and statements are issued, I will just keep refreshing and reading.

Many here have called MB a and a criminal. Yes. It appears he stole cigars. But again, we can only speculate so far.

Again, in another case, a white boy, only a few months younger than MB, brutally rapes and murders a little girl and we MUST find a reason. He was abused, injured, etc.

But for MB, being black is enough to explain his (?) crime. Which was not raping a little girl to death.

My apologies, I wrongly assumed by the tone of your posts that you were of a particular opinion. There have been statements that have indicated potential legitimate reasons that caused the Officer to end Mike's life. You find none of that compelling? I do not know the extent of the Wilson's injuries for a fact, I do not know whether the woman who gave an account that allegedly came from Wilson himself as fact either. But I do know that the Chief of Police for STL County, not the Ferguson chief (Wilson's boss) said there was an altercation in the car and a shot was fired for a fact. So, perhaps the better question is, why are some people willing to give so much weight to three non-credible witnesses, but yet give none to the chief's statement and the fact that there isn't one wispy hint of impropriety known about Wilson? While those two things are not evidence, they're far more credible than anything we've heard to support excessive force, yet so few who make comments like "Mike needed killing" ever really acknowledge the weight of what has been presented. By the way, no one here has even hinted that Mike needed to die, deserved to die, etc. Why does defense of Wilson have to have some sinister hatred of Mike attached?

BTW, I have no idea what issue you are talking about, I only know two things that loosely relate. One, grinding an axe from elsewhere here isn't the way to go. (See my infractions file, I learn lessons the hard way sometimes...love you Fran and Kimster!) Two, I'm a zero tolerance zealot for crimes like rape and murder of children, you'll find few people less sensitive to the rights and regard for these animals who steal the innocence of youngsters. Permanent incarceration in a medical facility for the insane and execution of the simple freaks. So, I'm all in on whatever you are referring to. Just don't think it is related in any way, shape or form to the discussion of this case.

 

[EvilSoup]

This is the second time I've posted this link tonight.

a police report calling Brown a suspect.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...d-18-year-old-michael-brown-article-1.1904539

Gotcha. Going by mod warnings. But thanks.

 

[gramcracker]

hey, sleuthers who are techies, Tim said to send him questions and he will answer them: "my phone is on, so ... "

oooh, and he just said "yeah yeah yeah" again

 

[MyBelle]

Respectfully, I've been reading for days....and I have never seen anyone post that "being black is enough to explain his crime" except in your post right here.

there also not been anyone posting that MB deserved to die or that "MB needed killing." It gets tiresome wading past such repetitive baseless accusations but I try to do my part.........

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

There is someone telling the protestors as they pass, all women and children go home" Cnn just reported this, and they are thinking that something is gonna go down

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

I AM MICHAEL BROWN is going mobile to where protestors are gathering. they will lose feed for a few minutes while they are doing this.

 

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Jesse Bogan ‏@JesseBogan 3m
Police officer says people can protest all night. He doesn't care. "I am gettin' paaaaaid." #ferguson

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Rory Carroll ‏@rorycarroll72 15m
'We young, we strong, we pushing all night long' Nary a hooligan in sight. #ferguson
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I love it. The po po must be making money hand over fist in OT