MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #7

[EvilSoup]

can someone clarify? Was it reported that it is fact that it is PROVEN that Brown touched Wilson's gun or was it being discussed that IF Brown touched Wilson's gun that SHOULD be something that can be proven? TIA

This is what I would like to know. It seems to be gospel, but I have not read or seen confirmation from investigators that this actually happened.

HOWEVER...it makes sense, why else would MB be riddled with bullets? He was obviously in grabbing range and threatened LEO.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Music? Glad I'm not the only one that didn't hear it. Are you taking pain meds? Once long ago I had taken lortab for pain and while lying down I heard music in my ear against the pillow but nothing in the other ear. I think it was an auditory hallucination.

Isabelle---please read post 433. The original poster states that she had a link open above the one below and left it open while attaching another link and it was playing the theme from "Rent".
Regarding substances, clearly if I had taken a pain pill I would know it 'cause my first profession was as an RN (NJ-Trenton NCLEX, 1982) but thank you for your concern.

 

[i.b.nora]

Really? 'Cause in a link in one of the posts above, the recorder of the phone video is talking at first about the guy who stole some cans of a beverage. But when it comes to the point where things get a bit hairy, there is some sort of classical-type piano music playing loud. So loud that you can not hear if there were warnings issued by the police before the shots fired or what the guy's words were prior to the shooting.

Why would someone purposely put loud music drumming out the verbal exchange?

The full phone video, with all sound, nothing censored or blurred out, (as it is on the Fox version) is at link below. The first video shows the action of his shoplifting inside and outside the store. The second video shows the actual encounter with the police. The one that says "Note: this contains both graphic language and violence."

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/st-louis-police-release-video-calls-city-shooting

When you play that video all the way through, the next video in line starts up and there is some guy playing a harpsicord (I think).

 

[mdana]

Next time they thank you in private, can you ask them to come back and answer the questions that have been asked? Please?

If I may be so bold as to summarize their frustration as I understand it.

They feel ostracized for their perspective on the case. They want to be able to post in other threads and not burn bridges with other posters. I am not going to guilt people into doing something that makes them feel uncomfortable, even if it would not stop me from posting. I have stated I can hold down the fort if they need to take a break, so to speak.

This is not a complaint just my perspective. This website is way to conservative and authoritarian for my taste:jail:, but I appreciate the information it exposes, I can't get anywhere else. So I post when I feel like I have something to add. I lurk most of the time, because someone has more knowledge or explained it better than I have.

-JMO

All my posts are just my opinion. If I fail to type JMO on a specific one, I forgot.

 

[Linda7NJ]

That there IS evidence. Must have prints

Or gun shot residue IMO it's likely his DNA is on that gun, and that hand injury occurred in the vehicle. That's my guess.


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[ATasteOfHoney]

I did the same thing, turn off volume from 1st/store video, in goes into a long commercial. Then watch 2nd video.

Thank you.

 

[tlcya]

Even young killers who without a doubt are guilty of the crimes they stand accused of.....I read post after post speculating about abuse or sexual abuse or brain injury or medication use or wrestling injury.

I read no such posts in defense of this young man. None. He committed a crime, yes. Not murder. Not rape. Not baby rape. Not killing his mother and little brother. I understand what Officer Wilson did. What I do not understand is why, with all the looking for "answers" we do on here regarding other young offenders, we are content to just assume MB needs none of this consideration.

Where is the discussion as to "why?" for Michael Brown? Why is this 18-year-old just a ?

Guilty is guilty. But to search for explanations for some, while just treating others as "here comes another one"?

That, I do not understand.

Respectfully snipped for focus.

Those why's tend to come up in cases where a young man or teen has killed another. We don't often debate crimes where a teen allegedly may have attempted to kill someone and then died. Nor do we often discuss cases in which the alleged victim may have been attacking the alleged perp who also happens to be a policer in full uniform and on the clock.

This case is extremely different.

In addition, if we were to spend pages and pages debating what may possibly have made Mr. Brown engage in attacking a polic officer and trying to disarm him as some are alleging, then we would be taken to task by others saying we were attempting to further villify an alleged victim.

This case is extremely hard to discuss responsibly without offending others or seeming to attack. It is complex because as it stands right now IMO each man is an alleged perp and victim of the other. Then throw that cherry of a uniform on top.

We respect and advocate for victims.

We respect LE.

:crazy:

Right now we don't know who is which is what is up is down . . .

 

[Elley Mae]

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[bettybaby00]

can someone clarify? Was it reported that it is fact that it is PROVEN that Brown touched Wilson's gun or was it being discussed that IF Brown touched Wilson's gun that SHOULD be something that can be proven? TIA

Damn it, damn it. I was watching. They gave out a new witness statement.
And they gave out his name as well. Nothing come up on google yet.

He said there was a fight, it looked like MB was hitting Wilson. I couldn't catch the rest.

Then they started switching to "sources tell us" there is conclusive evidence MB touched the gun.

I can't source this as she doesn't have anything on her site yet...so take it for what you will.

She ended with a supporter of Browns, and reiterated that there are two conflicting sides to this story, and most,don't want to admit that, referring to MSM

 

[Linda7NJ]

popcicle come home! is Tim live

his station is saying rumors of fights, gunshots?
walking to area where people are gathering.

Tweet said he's back in NYC


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[Yoda]

But they can't buy a beer or rent a car........probably a good reason for both.

And current brain research shows that the frontal cortex of the brain is not completely mylenized until about age 24. That part of the brain governs critical thinking, executive functioning and decision making.

In fact, the brain of the 6-12 year old is in a much more 'stable' state than that of an adolescent. Once adolescent chemical changes meet the underdeveloped frontal cortex.....well, yeah, teenagers.

Not that all teens are incapable of rational thought, but generally speaking, well, if you have a teenager, it will remind you of the toddler years.

"Um did you REALLY think shaving your head was a good idea?"
"Well, I know you were angry, but could you have thought of a better way to express that than calling him a ?@$&&?# ?"

Not excusing criminal behavior. But am explaining that an 18 year old is not an adult, developmentally speaking. And also that on these very boards I have read posts positing that minor perps must have "had to have been victims, themselves".

Hannah Anderson comes to mind. Super sketchy stuff there (IMO and not just MO) and yet she was a pretty, popular cheerleader and as such, given a huge pass. And called a victim in MSM and everywhere other than comments from real people who smelled a rat.

Even young killers who without a doubt are guilty of the crimes they stand accused of.....I read post after post speculating about abuse or sexual abuse or brain injury or medication use or wrestling injury.

I read no such posts in defense of this young man. None. He committed a crime, yes. Not murder. Not rape. Not baby rape. Not killing his mother and little brother. I understand what Officer Wilson did. What I do not understand is why, with all the looking for "answers" we do on here regarding other young offenders, we are content to just assume MB needs none of this consideration.

Where is the discussion as to "why?" for Michael Brown? Why is this 18-year-old just a ?

Guilty is guilty. But to search for explanations for some, while just treating others as "here comes another one"?

That, I do not understand.

I don't think anyone on here thinks he should have been killed for walking in the street or robbing a store. I don't. But as soon as it becomes physical between MB and the officer, the officer has a right to protect himself and a duty to protect others. The store clerk was assaulted by MB. It is not the store clerks job to protect the community. It is the officers. JMO

 

[CHERIE.T]

On FOX now... prove MB touched DW's gun

prove or proof?

 

[DebinGA]

By definition, an "altercation" is a verbal, not physical, dispute.

 

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As thunder rolls: Officer Wilson supporter creating commotion in #Ferguson.

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[popsicle]

prove or proof?

can prove

 

[katydid23]

Trying to make him seem childlike.

Not working.

PLus, I think they want to get rid of the name 'Big Mike.' That brings too much attention to his size.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Respectfully snipped for focus.

Those why's tend to come up in cases where a young man or teen has killed another. We don't often debate crimes where a teen allegedly may have attempted to kill someone and then died. Nor do we often discuss cases in which the alleged victim may have been attacking the alleged perp who also happens to be a policer in full uniform and on the clock.

This case is extremely different.

In addition, if we were to spend pages and pages debating what may possibly have made Mr. Brown engage in attacking a polic officer and trying to disarm him as some are alleging, then we would be taken to task by others saying we were attempting to further villify an alleged victim.

This case is extremely hard to discuss responsibly without offending others or seeming to attack. It is complex because as it stands right now IMO each man is an alleged perp and victim of the other. Then throw that cherry of a uniform on top.

We respect and advocate for victims.

We respect LE.

:crazy:

Right now we don't know who is which is what is up is down . . .

How many people were shot & injured and shot & died during these "protests" to date?

No one cares about them...that's the REAL problem.


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[popsicle]

popcicle come home! is Tim live

his station is saying rumors of fights, gunshots?
walking to area where people are gathering.

Tim Pool @Timcast · 10m

Back in #NYC now. @vicenews is still out in #Ferguson. Stay tuned!

 

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