MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #7

[jdedmom]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/20/us/missouri-police-officer-suspended/index.html

The officer was suspended indefinitely.

 

[CARIIS]

RE: I am afraid this is going to get very very ugly on a national level, no matter the outcome of th


I so agree with you and the implication are enormous -- Ferg is little paralize a big city -- econmics in and of itself huge issue - that is why I am sorry - (and trust me I think govt is way to intrusive way !) but in this instance I think they need to do mariial law now.

Once whatever happens in terms of a next step - lets say the GJ says go on , after two weeks everyting is going to blow up again taking too long

or if the dont then the whole nation is out of control

I am glad the whole issue of LE use of force becoming an issue, cause it is one. BUT, playing WW2 in our streets is just not a good idea -even just for kids to see in terms of in 10 years lets go do that.

There needs to some sort of message, in this instance, that this will not be tolerated by socieety. Imagine if this whole thing was in Atlanta or somewhere its gonna blow up unless they try something they have not.

QUOTE=tlcya;10882219]This thing is about to reach a national flashpoint IMO.

 

[Lovejac]

http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=556&vid=-906706579840604863

OMG, that was good. Thanks for posting Foxfire

 

[CARIIS]

I vote he will be on vacation only a week --how long you vote? It will be neat to follow how long! When media gone hes back without diversity trainingd.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/20/us/missouri-police-officer-suspended/index.html

The officer was suspended indefinitely.

 

[Phoebeb]

The thing the officer was doing that even caused the reporter to ask for his name was that the officer was pointing a large gun (don't know the type) at him and the crowd who were standing very close to the cops (maybe 6 feet away or so). It was over the top, imo, the way the cop had that machine gun looking-thing pointed at people in very close range. Believe me, I support the police exerting control, I have no problem with that whatsoever. Just this guy was too in-your-face, imo.

At a recent presser, Capt Johns*n eloquently asked for the media's cooperation and restraint due to interfering with some police actions necessary to confiscate bullets from a car where there was a shooting into an apartment complex. He has asked the media to take a responsible approach and utilize appropriate behavior. He has asked that they remain in the safe "green" zone because it is difficult to protect them if things become violent.

Not all of the media/journalists are wearing the "Press" designation attire. It is difficult to determine who is friend or foe in a public protest that seems to become mob like every night. The police have a volatile situation at hand, are weary from this, hungry, tired, and frankly are getting burnt. They are probably very frustrated and saddened too---after all, it is tough to be decent human being and have people hating you. They are human too.

Botton line: for the officers it is impossible to tell who is going to do the next crazy move. They have to be on guard right now.

Maybe some of the Press want to antagonize the police so they can "sell" the story to the media. Everybody wants their 5 minutes of fame.

 

[Sincerely]

There was discussion about waiting for back-up, thought I would share this. This jury started deliberations today in the murder case of 25 y/o Lakeland Police Office Arnulfo Crispin. Hopefully he will get the DP. jmo


http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/loca...s-in-lakeland-police-officers-death/14365499/

I was here when he was shot and killed. Our community came together! What a sad day that was though.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Fox News has chosen the wrong protest guy to interview. He is clueless.

Imo he represents the majority out there.


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[JLSChook]

This woman is just going off off off

I had it on for about 12 seconds.

 

[mdana]

Your makes it difficult to tell if you are serious or not. FWWI I don't generally "thank" a comment that I'm replying to. I either do one or the other...usually.


I see the parallel you're making Re: the nurses, but this article references some pretty serious allegations by his "peers." And in many of them, if true, he's breaking the law. Not only in the work he's done in doing autopsies, but he flat out lies about his credentials.

I was serious, but I am harmless and not upset. I get a lot faint praise to anesthetize from the brutal cuts to follow. JK

These are allegations. If he is such a serious threat to public safety, why has he not been sanctioned, due to appear in court, or in jail? Doesn't mean he is not fraud, but why aren't these people working to file charges, if they are so concerned?

This attack is the reverse of an appeal to authority in a debate. For, instance are you going to argue with the pope, President, whatever authority figure you hold in esteem? Well, Nobel Prize winner thinks x is wrong, are you going to argue with him? The debater wants you to be so flustered as to not realize that what x is advocating may not be in his field of expertise and his advice may be worse than the average person.

It is trying to discredit Mr. Parcell's character, credentials, expertise, while not really addressing if what he is stating is suspect. Baden is well respected, so they go after Parcells. I think what he is stating is medically sound, and Baden has repeated the same points. I have not seen any attacks that address problems with the autopsy, only attacks on Parcells credentials. etc. That is a cue they can't impugn the autopsy. They want to sidetrack interested parties in a sideshow and muddy the situation.

He may be a fraud, but it doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is explaining. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

The thing the officer was doing that even caused the reporter to ask for his name was that the officer was pointing a large gun (don't know the type) at him and the crowd who were standing very close to the cops (maybe 6 feet away or so). It was over the top, imo, the way the cop had that machine gun looking-thing pointed at people in very close range. Believe me, I support the police exerting control, I have no problem with that whatsoever. Just this guy was too in-your-face, imo.

And that proves my point----don't mess with the police.

Actually, my common sense tells me not to be comfortable with any person near me with a gun, let alone taunt them in any way.

I'm sure there's plenty of police officers at Fergus*n that are absolutely disgusted with what is going on there. The whole shabang is sad.

Although I am not defending the actions of this particular officer, I will say that I heard in the beginning of the video a few people yelling, "Don't throw anything" repeatedly.

Seriously, this situation s*cks.

There's no winning here.

 

[JLSChook]

Just FYI, "Support" for Officer Wilson has reached their next goal of $100,000.

Actually it's $102,262 in just 3 days.

 

[Lovejac]

And that proves my point----don't mess with the police.

Actually, my common sense tells me not to be comfortable with any person near me with a gun, let alone taunt them in any way.

I'm sure there's plenty of police officers at Fergus*n that are absolutely disgusted with what is going on there. The whole shabang is sad.

The back story to that incident is that the officer saw, what he thought was someone holding a gun in that crowd. He asked the reporter to move and he wouldn't. It turned out to be a bb gun, I think. I'll try to find the article I read.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Woman "counsel woman" on Hannity being interviewed....
Frightening!


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[Ms Suzanne]

That's just despicable :furious:

What's next? Poop? :facepalm:

Throwing urine in bottles? This really makes me mad. I just can't believe they really think this is alright to do.

 

[tlcya]

The officer was not from Ferguson and Cpt Ron Johnson said he has been removed from security duty in Ferguson.

Well I would hope so! While I found the reporter's response quick witted the officer is supposed to be there to calm the situation and not add to the escalation. I totally get that this is a very tense situation and it can be hard to deal with people treating these police disrespectfully (bottles of urine flying for goodness sake) but that is his duty and what he is being paid to do. Enforce the law and maintain peace. That sort of behavior is not in line with that goal.

 

[CARIIS]

Thats big , but IMO just the big pic this is gonna end up in a long and exhausting trial - there is no way out too politicalzied

Likely forensics of some sort, prints, blood, skin/dna, etc., gngr~snap.. When MB fought over Wilson's firearm and it discharged, it likely injured MB's hand when the slide then moved forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.. jmo

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/M9.html
The M9 is carried by crew-served weapon crewmen and by others who have a personal defense requirement, such as law enforcement personnel and aviators.
The 9mm pistol has a short recoil system utilizing a falling locking block.

Upon firing, the pressure developed by the combustion gases recoils the slide-barrel assembly. After a short run, the locking block will stop the rearward movement of the barrel and release the slide which will continue its rearward movement. The slide will then extract and eject the fired cartridge case, the hammer and compress the recoil spring. The slide then moves forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.

 

[KEVINinTO]

I haven't seen this posted before. According to this FOX report the video of MB robbing the store was released in response to a FOIA request and that Chief Jackson held off releasing as long as possible in order to allow MB's family to view the video first.

If this is true (and it should be easy to prove) how was the false narrative of a "smear" allowed to take hold? If Ferguson PD Chief Jackson was simply responding to an FOIA request how can people ascribe an ulterior motive for the release? Of course if this is true Chief Jackson did a lousy job in presenting this information to the media or defending himself in the aftermath. In his presser he should have made it clear that he was simply complying with the law in releasing the video.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/2...en-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

On Friday, Ferguson police released surveillance video showing Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store just before his death. Jackson came under intense criticism for disclosing the tape and a related police report as he also insisted that the alleged robbery and the encounter with Wilson were unrelated matters. Brown’s family, through their attorney, suggested the tape’s release was a strategic form of “character assassination.”

However, FoxNews.com’s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape’s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown’s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

“He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,” noted the insider. “A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.”

If the above is true it is despicable that the lawyers for the family would issue the statement claiming Ferguson PD smeared MB. They had to be aware of the video being shown to MB's parents and most likely aware that the video was to be released in response to a FOIA request.

 

[Phoebeb]

She was in total denial of innocent until proven guilty. And that's a community leader... shudder. Kept saying but he was shot twice in the head! Never wanted to hear anything about possible self-defense

Woman "counsel woman" on Hannity being interviewed....
Frightening!


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[popsicle]

"We want justice, Here's your peace"

 

[CARIIS]

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