MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #8

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#Seattle #KingCounty #NAACP Solidarity with #Ferguson Remembrance ceremony to honor #MichaelBrown #Q13FOX pic.twitter.com/7bHwOpVOJJ
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[LambChop]

Very good sluthing ---who put that out defense casue you are correct:
CT with contiguous thin axial and coronal sections should be ordered to confirm the diagnosis and plan for treatment (See Figure 1A). - See more at: http://www.revophth.com/content/d/plastic_pointers/i/1203/c/22686/#sthash.isMeYbbd.dpuf

CT with contiguous thin axial and coronal sections should be ordered to confirm the diagnosis and plan for treatment (See Figure 1A) - See more at: http://www.revophth.com/content/d/plastic_pointers/i/1203/c/22686/#sthash.isMeYbbd.dpuf


CT with contiguous thin axial and coronal sections should be ordered to confirm the diagnosis and plan for treatment (See Figure 1A) - See more at: http://www.revophth.com/content/d/plastic_pointers/i/1203/c/22686/#sthash.isMeYbbd.dpuf

Cariis, do you mean very good sleuthing? :giggle:

 

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Rachel Lippmann ‏@rlippmann 10m
Back up on W. Florissant after talking to some people in Canfield Green. One dedicated group marching and chanting. Most others just stroll.

 

[CoolJ]

Let's not forget that MB's mother called for the death penalty for the LEO. (refer to links regarding what the family/mother have stated). I cannot express how much this upsets me.

What is also so very upsetting to me, is that according to some of the news stories I have read; these people (the family) could potentially sue the police department and others all in the name of civil rights. Civil rights? How about the right of the LEO to defend himself? What about him? The true victim in this incident. Makes me so darn mad.

I haven't provided links to support my opinion, however, they are all over this forum. I will provide links if anyone asks me to.

I agree with everything you said except Wilson being the true victim. That IMO is disrespectful to Michael Brown, his family and his friends. Wilson May end up being a victim in all of this but IMO Michael Brown is the True victim.

 

[CARIIS]

Post quick is acting on me anyone else ?


I turned the volume off first time I saw her. That is so completly inapproriate. As an elected figure she should not be threatening innoccent folks with world war II. It was disgusting until I turned her down until she down threatening evceryone

So not ok

Just a ps here i do not use caps intnetionally like yelling it is just a coordinated ordeal as it relates to my hoarrible relationship wiht my typing teaching Mrs Brown. Chilhood trauma! <modsnip>

oh lady why dont you do something like get out instead of elbows out !

 

[KEVINinTO]

Just watched an interesting exchange on Anderson Cooper. He had Mark O'Mara on (Trayvon Martin's attorney) and O'Mara said that he was very surprised that we have not heard from a lawyer representing Wilson. O'Mara said it is important to hear from supporters of Wilson in order to counter the narrative being put out by the MB family attorneys. Also on the program was the president of the St Louis police association. He couldn't confirm that Wilson has an attorney . He added that if he was advising Wilson he would tell him to "keep his head down". I wonder if the president of the St Louis police association has been advising Wilson and if this is why we have not seen a counter narrative put forward by supporters of Wilson?

I think they are making a big mistake with this approach. Right from day one Wilson should have had an attorney to represent him in the media who could counter the false narratives being created.

 

[Minette]

Honestly, do you think if this were over just one isolated incident, that people would be this upset, to the extent of protesting all these days? What is there to gain for them? Why would people be this angry over just one isolated incident??

Can anyone just acknowledge even the possibility that these people of Ferguson have focused on MBs case simply because it was the last straw??


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Yes, I can acknowledge that! And if there has been systemic racism or police brutality against the people of Ferguson then I say "sic 'em, DOJ!" And there is no denying that there are still a lot of racial tensions in this country and there have been injustices that have gone unpunished.

I just think that THIS is not the case to fall on your sword over, THIS is not the victim to hold up as a hero, and THIS is not the cop to throw to the mob to pacify their anger. Of course MB's parents are anguished, how could they not be? Their son is dead. But you know what? Rioting, looting, burning and firing off guns into a crowd is not the way to express the fact that you are upright citizens deserving of respect. It just isn't. I have a lot of admiration for the peaceful protestors, I have none, ZERO for those who incite and treat a tragedy as an excuse to terrorize store employees and steal from others.

 

[katydid23]

A reasonable explanation would be that Wilson called him over to his window...... But that's just speculation... I have no idea, maybe he went over there to smash the cops head in..... My point is that we do not know, and there is no evidence showing me a definitive answer. The eye witness reports don't make it sound so good for the officer right now but hopefully the FBI is going to complete an unprejudiced investigation and be able to give us the most likely scenario after they speak to all witnesses

So the cop calls him over to the window, then pulls out his gun and points it at his head, with no provocation? Just feels like shooting an innocent teen that day, right in broad daylight in front of that huge apt. building?

 

[bettybaby00]

Been mainly lurking due to the highly charged emotional comments as of late.. and my observation that I've never got into trouble with my mouth closed and my ears open...
Although my career was in public safety for twenty five years, it was not as a law enforcement officer, but as an Atlanta firefighter. Retiring as Captain, I had the opportunity of working along side LEOs in all economic, social, and cultural areas of the city, as well as in many different circumstances, tragedies, and hazardous environments.
My observation of law enforcement officers were that the overwhelming majority of them were fair and honorable public servants that conducted their duties in a very professional manner..

Imo, from info known, Ferguson Police officer Darren Wilson, is an honest, honorable, and professional LEO who is being unjustly persecuted... JMO

BBM

This is the crux of it, and believing he's being unfairly persecuted doesn't mean I think MB deserved to die.

Unrelated to your post, but I noticed a number of posters asking for a link re: Brown's family's lawyers statements admitting there was more than a "tussle" at the car...

"Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car. We don`t deny that,” Daryl Parks, attorney for Brown’s family said Monday night. “I think as evidence comes out, you'll see and hear more of that. But that`s not what killed him.”

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/18/michael-brown-shooting-autopsy-fight-car

And for me, if they are willing to admit this to the media I've gotta wonder how bad it really was. And although he's not mentioning the gun shot that happened "at the car" that fact has been reported in witness accounts, and by the Police Chief.

Sunday Aug. 10

10 a.m. – Michael Brown, 18, was unarmed, St. Louis County Police Chief Joe Belmar says in a news conference. Belmar says Brown physically assaulted the officer, and during a struggle between the two, Brown reached for the officer's gun. One shot was fired in the car followed by other gunshots outside of the car.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...el-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/

 

[CoolJ]

The strong arm robbery video made a huge impression on me and totally blew the "gentle giant" narrative out of the water.

The fact it occurred mere minutes before his confrontation with officer Wilson shows me Browns state of mind.

The witnesses and the Brown family attorney describing MORE than a TUSSLE at the vehicle.

I'm judging.
It was a justifiable shoot.

All IMO



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Judge away. It is your call.

 

[LambChop]

No I am not saying that at all... I am saying we cant believe anything any of these people (including those lying to support Wilson) are saying. I don't understand how folks can't see what is happening here. Each "side" is releasing something consistently everyday, numerous times a day, to support their narrative. Until the next day, when what was said the day before turns out to be either greatly exaggerated or outright lies.
It is a game now, and we the public are being duped. I have faith though that 40 FBI agents will be able to get to the real truth out of this. In fact I think the biggest joke so far is that Holder has already seemed to have convicted Wilson. That sure isn't right. He deserves a fair trial, or maybe the evidence they have is so clear that he won't even be indicted.... But I sure don't see any of that thus far.

I have not seen that reported. Do you have a link for any statement that Holder has made regarding his belief? I thought Holder was above that type of rush to judgment. Do you mean the Governor?

 

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Rachel Lippmann &#8207;@rlippmann 3m
Tactical teams are sitting on car/truck hoods watching the protestor in #Ferguson. Officers in uniform guarding buildings.

 

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Oh dear! My eyes are weary from trying to post on my phone.

I actually read that to say "Sen, Claire McCaskill is encouraging people to shoot" !!

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[CARIIS]

w, the victim would not be physically able, or conscious, and able to curl into a fetal position, then "uncurl" into the position he was found and photographed in by so many. I


interesting and makes sense

 

[Wysteria]

I agree with everything you said except Wilson being the true victim. That IMO is disrespectful to Michael Brown, his family and his friends. Wilson May end up being a victim in all of this but IMO Michael Brown is the True victim.

Okay, fair enough. We can just agree to disagree. eace: to you and thank you for your reply.

 

[TheDuchess]

Honestly, do you think if this were over just one isolated incident, that people would be this upset, to the extent of protesting all these days? What is there to gain for them? Why would people be this angry over just one isolated incident??

Can anyone just acknowledge even the possibility that these people of Ferguson have focused on MBs case simply because it was the last straw??


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Well....they picked the wrong straw....IMO....

 

[JLSChook]

Oh dear! My eyes are weary from trying to post on my phone.

I actually read that to say "Sen, Claire McCaskill is encouraging people to shoot" !!

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That's okay, I'm on a HUGE computer and I saw the same thing at first. :doh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Law enforcement needs to build a bridge with the community they serve.
Go into the elementary schools, middle schools and high schools...don't they have a police athletic league or community sports program where officers can coach? Police need to chat up residents and build a rapport with the very young and the very old. IMO

That's the only way to change the community and take it back from criminals and thugs. That's the only way to build a "blacker" police force.

Respect is earned and it's a two way street.

All IMO


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[Minette]

Just watched an interesting exchange on Anderson Cooper. He had Mark O'Mara on (Trayvon Martin's attorney) and O'Mara said that he was very surprised that we have not heard from a lawyer representing Wilson. O'Mara said it is important to hear from supporters of Wilson in order to counter the narrative being put out by the MB family attorneys. Also on the program was the president of the St Louis police association. He couldn't confirm that Wilson has an attorney . He added that if he was advising Wilson he would tell him to "keep his head down". I wonder if the president of the St Louis police association has been advising Wilson and if this is why we have not seen a counter narrative put forward by supporters of Wilson?

I think they are making a big mistake with this approach. Right from day one Wilson should have had an attorney to represent him in the media who could counter the false narratives being created.

I think Officer Wilson naively believes that he will one day be able to come back to active duty and be a cop so he is keeping his head down and probably listening to his police superiors and possibly his union rep and trusting them not to throw him to the wolves. I'm not sure that trust is his best strategy, but it's probably what I would do if I was rattled over the shooting and truly believed it was justified and that I would eventually be exonerated.

 

[LambChop]

I do not think any of us feel MB deserved to die. When it comes to 18 year olds they think they are invincible. Add a cocky attitude and things happen that put them in some very dangerous situations whether it be with a gang member or with the police. That is what needs to be corrected. jmo