MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #8

[i.b.nora]

Here is the official Ferguson Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting:

Edit to add correction. This is the official St. Louis County Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting.

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/237504285

It might take awhile to read.

If for some reason you are unable to access that document, you can reach it via this Time Magazine article:

http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/

 

[Gardenlady]

With all due respect K_Z, I really think the term "lynched" could be substituted with a more accurate and appropriate term in light of the circumstances being discussed here. Whatever you may think about the media's coverage of Darren Wilson, I can assure you that it does not even come close to the equivalent of being "lynched."

RE: "Interesting what brings out people to donate money, and how they choose their causes."

<modsnip> I hope Darren Wilson recognizes that, by accepting their money, he is also accepting, approving of, and advancing their views. JMO ~

Good post. I also did a double take at the use of "lynching". Unfortunate word choice brimming with historical connotations.

I tried linking to an MSM article earlier that had collected some of the more telling comments of donors to Wilson, but apparently that isn't allowed. I encourage folks to look into it themselves before getting too happy about the donation amounts.


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[krimekat]

With all due respect K_Z, I really think the term "lynched" could be substituted with a more accurate and appropriate term in light of the circumstances being discussed here. Whatever you may think about the media's coverage of Darren Wilson, I can assure you that it does not even come close to the equivalent of being "lynched."

RE: "Interesting what brings out people to donate money, and how they choose their causes."

<modsnip> I hope Darren Wilson recognizes that, by accepting their money, he is also accepting, approving of, and advancing their views. JMO ~

BBM for emphasis: I am supporting Officer Wilson because he is an Officer of the Law!

Good Gawd! It's these generalizations that create the divide! IMHO of course

 

[DebinGA]

The moment Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson shot an unarmed teenager, a 25-year-old Supreme Court case became the prism through which his actions will be legally judged.

To most people, an 18-year-old unarmed man may not appear to pose a deadly threat. But a police officer&#8217;s perspective is different. And that is how an officer should be judged after the fact, Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote in the 1989 opinion.

The Supreme Court case, decided at a time when violence against police was on the rise, has shaped the national legal standards that govern when police officers are justified in using force. The key question about Wilson&#8217;s killing on Aug. 9 is whether a reasonable officer with a similar background would have responded the same way.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08...e-court-case-to-shape-ferguson-investigation/

From above link: "The Graham decision found that an officer&#8217;s use of force should be considered on the facts of each case. Officers are to weigh the seriousness of the crime, whether the suspect poses a threat to the safety of police or others and whether the suspect is trying to resist arrest. &#8220;The &#8216;reasonableness&#8217; of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight,&#8221; Rehnquist wrote.

 

[popsicle]

Here is the official Ferguson Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting:

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/237504285

It might take awhile to read.

If for some reason you are unable to access that document, you can reach it via this Time Magazine article:

http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/

That is the St Louis County PD report.

 

[tlcya]

Here is the official Ferguson Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting:

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/237504285

It might take awhile to read.

If for some reason you are unable to access that document, you can reach it via this Time Magazine article:

http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/

BBM I see what you did there

 

[krimekat]

Senator Nasheed is a product of her environment & voted into the State by her constituents. It's StL -- a City which has lost >700K residents in a century & STILL has 28 wards. A City in a free fall decline but the County is doing quite well! Well, some parts of the County (collar counties are doing really well)

http://house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=060&year=2012

 

[tlcya]

Senator Nasheed is a product of her environment & voted into the State by her constituents. It's StL -- a City which has lost >700K residents in a century & STILL has 28 wards. A City in a free fall decline but the County is doing quite well!

http://house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=060&year=2012

yes, kind of my point.

 

[Isabelle]

Here is the official Ferguson Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting:

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/237504285

It might take awhile to read.

If for some reason you are unable to access that document, you can reach it via this Time Magazine article:

http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/

Not much to it.

 

[katydid23]

Earlier today I saw part of a panel on MSNBC, which included a black female attorney. She was talking about the Grand Jury and was very outraged by the fact that the prosecutor gave the officer 'an invitation', as she called it, to 'defend himself.' She was angry because she said that prosecutors are before the GJ to try and get indictments. So why allow the target of the indictment to tell their story? That is just wrong, according to this attorney.

Also, she was upset because she said this sitting grand jury MIGHT HAVE met the officer if he has testified in any cases. So that would be unfair to MB if they already knew the officer and then were expected to indict him.

Anyway, at the end of her rant, I felt encouraged. :wink:

 

[LambChop]

I know we can't post links to donation sites, but is there a link to a MSM site that has a link to donation site.

Can we post that?


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No links to donation sites of any kind.

Also because we cannot link please do not get into a discussion about what is being posted on the donation sites. Thanks, Lambchop

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by Shimon Prokupecz
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Katie Hinman &#8207;@khinman 2m
Grand jury breakdown: 9 white, 3 black, 7 men, 5 women. From the St Louis County Circuit Court, via @ShimonPro
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[aa9511]

Wilson will not get a life sentence, no way. I think the most he would get in the end, IF it goes to trial and IF he's found guilty of something, is like maybe 5 or 7 years, something like that. I followed the Chrisman case in Arizona (also cop accused of killing someone while on duty)....that case had IMO clear evidence that he, Chrisman, was the trangressor, and there was clear evidence that the victim was trying to get AWAY from him when Chrisman shot him......yet even in that case he was not found guilty of M2 (hung jury on that count). Instead he was only found guilty of lesser charge (something like agression with a weapon, I forget technical name now)....which has only gotten him a few years in prison compared to what he probably should have gotten.
Now, of course, those who think Wilson was completely justified in the shooting will say that he should not even get 5 years if he did nothing wrong? That is question for the jury to decide.
But IMO he will not get anything like life in prison or anything like that.
Btw, I loved your post!

 

[DebinGA]

Retweeted by Shimon Prokupecz
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Katie Hinman &#8207;@khinman 2m
Grand jury breakdown: 9 white, 3 black, 7 men, 5 women. From the St Louis County Circuit Court, via @ShimonPro
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St. Louis County grand jury 33% AA / St. Louis County 24% AA

Seems fair to me.

 

[SStarr33]

Here is the official Ferguson Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting:

Edit to add correction. This is the official St. Louis County Police Department incident report of the Michael Brown shooting.

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/237504285

It might take awhile to read.

If for some reason you are unable to access that document, you can reach it via this Time Magazine article:

http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/

Is this what you meant to post? It has been out for a while.

 

[Gypsy Road]

One of the largest donations, for $1,070, came from Anne Arundel County&#8217;s Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 70. Most donations are more modest, in the $5 to $50 range.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...en-wilson-the-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/



BBM My Father died May31 2010 Memorial day, it was about 90 degrees that day. He was out side doing yard work and had a heart attack. He lay in the yard for over 3 hours before a coroner from the next county showed up. He was a good cop, 32 years he was a good cop. Anne Arundel Co Fraternal Order 70 was his Lodge. I know he would be proud to read that. jmo

Sorry for the loss of your dad. 32 years in the force - wow....I thank him for his service and protection! I lived in Anne Arundel Co. and went to Anne Arundel High when I was a teen. I grew up in a military family, but Anne Arundel was by far the best place I ever lived. Good people there!

 

[aa9511]

IMO, assaulting a shopowner and assaulting a police officer are two totally different things. I don't think MB would have equated the two, so as to take assaulting a police officer as such a light matter. JMO. I'm not saying he did NOT assault the police officer, I'm just saying that I don't think it's fair to say that b/c MB assaulted the shopowner, that he would have just as easily assaulted a police officer, as if the two were equal.
JMO.

 

[katydid23]

Wilson will not get a life sentence, no way. I think the most he would get in the end, IF it goes to trial and IF he's found guilty of something, is like maybe 5 or 7 years, something like that. I followed the Chrisman case in Arizona (also cop accused of killing someone while on duty)....that case had IMO clear evidence that he, Chrisman, was the trangressor, and there was clear evidence that the victim was trying to get AWAY from him when Chrisman shot him......yet even in that case he was not found guilty of M2 (hung jury on that count). Instead he was only found guilty of lesser charge (something like agression with a weapon, I forget technical name now)....which has only gotten him a few years in prison compared to what he probably should have gotten.
Now, of course, those who think Wilson was completely justified in the shooting will say that he should not even get 5 years if he did nothing wrong? That is question for the jury to decide.
But IMO he will not get anything like life in prison or anything like that.
Btw, I loved your post!

BBM

At this point, that is how I feel. jmo :moo:

 

[tlcya]

No links to donation sites of any kind.

for clarification please: We can link to MSM articles but not direct links to donate sites. Correct? Because several MSM articles are now featuring embedded links to those donate sites. The MSM link is okay but not the donate link if I understand the rule right.

So in this new format of WS we as members need to use caution to make sure that when copy pasting, an actual embedded link to the donate sites is not being carried over with our posts.

Do I have it right? Please and thanks.

 

[aa9511]

BBM

I'm sure the small storekeeper would disagree.

And probably Officer Wilson

Disregarding the event with Officer Wilson, so does pushing a storekeeper warrant him getting shot 6 times?!