GUILTY MO - Hailey Owens, 10, Springfield, 18 Feb 2014 #1

[Blue_Dolphin308]

But why wait...IDK...bust the darn door down and go in...:banghead:

What happened if he would have come home with her in the vehicle and saw police in his house, and then fled with her??

 

[blue22]

Yes, but my point was, being a suspicious meeting/exchange between the perp and the girl, there was still many seconds of time to holler out at the perp, and likely scare him off, saving Hailey's life.

The witnesses did what they were supposed to. Gather information and make an effort to help the victim.

We create the culture of witnesses being fearful to help. I think it's time we stop enabling that. The witness is innocent.

 

[CuriousGuy]

Life can be so cruel at times. Just yesterday this sweet angel was celebrating her "half birthday" , texting all her buddies and joyfully playing with her little neighborhood friend. Within moments she stared evil in the face and was terrified I'm sure.

My heart aches for her and her family.

RIP Hailey Owens

I love you even without knowing you in this life

 

[Methodical]

he RAN after the car!!! His wife got the lp # and called 911.. for all we know he did yell.

THIS is why people hesitate to get involved...all the second guessing and criticism of how the witnesses reacted.

How about some second guessing and criticism of the MAN who kidnapped and killed Hailey? So frustrating....:banghead:

He was yelled at, he was chased by foot, he was chased by car, they took down the license plate number, and immediately called 911 as well. I think the witnesses did what they could when they realized what was going on.

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20140219/NEWS12/302190065/craig-michael-wood-hailey-owens

Witnesses said Owens ignored the man at first, but came closer when he was insistently asking a question. A witness told the News-Leader the man was asking where “Springfield Street” was. Williams said the girl was grabbed when she got closer to the suspect.

Chief Williams said in all his years of police work he had never had to help investigate or deal with a case like this: allegations of a child abducted by a stranger.

Police say witnesses called police, got a license number and chased the car on foot. One witness attempted to follow the vehicle in a car, Williams said, but lost the suspect.

A witness, Ricky Riggins, 23, told the News-Leader he heard yelling and saw his neighbor trying to get the girl away from Wood.

"He was yelling at her, let her go, let her go," Riggins said.

Then Wood drove off. Riggins followed him in his car as Wood drove at an estimated 60 mph through the neighborhood.

"I couldn't keep up," Riggins said. "He was probably five to six cars ahead of me. "

Everyone is *repeatedly* missing the point and replying with things the witnesses did AFTER she was grabbed. I won't pursue this any longer as you all continue to state only what actions were done AFTER she was abducted.
Because the reality is there was no shout, or no action taken BEFORE Hailey was grabbed.

I'll refer to the USA Today video, which is the witness himself, in his own words. He was in a garage extremely close to Wood's vehicle and Hailey, and he did not shout out while he sat there hearing Wood ask Hailey questions. The fact is,, nobody did anything or move an inch prior to Hailey being grabbed (outside the vehicle and after the perp opened the door)

USA Today Witness Video

Honest question (for those brave enuf to answer):
Now if your 10 yr old were seen talking to a 45 yr old male stranger in a car, honestly, would you be completely understanding and comfortable with a nearby adult merely watching an obvious (to me) setup for a possible abduction, without that adult taking action BEFORE your child was grabbed? Just so long as he took the perp's license tag number, all would be ok?

I'd like to concentrate on the actual perp now, but keep getting an influx of faulty defenses re the witness's actions.

 

[Jewels53]

For those that have never driven in Springfield, MO, it isn't the easiest city to drive in. Many, many stop light and the addresses are on the opposite side of town.

jmo

 

[Knox]

That is beyond disturbing & heartbreaking. I can't come up with any scenario where remains couldn't be 'reasonably concluded' to be that of a missing child of 4 hours immediately upon discovery. A fire maybe, but since the body was located inside the residence I don't see it as a possibility. Perhaps they are just being careful regarding what & how much info they're releasing but the statements released so far seem somewhat out of the norm re: what you would expect to hear (within a 4 hour time frame), IMO.

It took police about three and half to four hours to track the vehicle to Wood’s residence. Police were watching the house when he drove up in the truck.

Police had a brief discussion and he agreed to accompany them to police headquarters for questioning, Williams said. Once there, though, he refused to talk and asked for an attorney.

About 11:30 p.m., authorities searched the area around the home on Stanford Street.

“That resulted in evidence to this case and evidence of foul play,” Williams said.

Police got a warrant to search the house about 2:15 a.m. Wednesday and discovered the body about 2:40 a.m. Williams said the body was inside the house, but would not discuss details.

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/19/4834066/man-arrested-in-springfield-abduction.html

IMO, something was found outside the home which told police sweet Hailey was not alive. I really don't want to speculate what that forensic evidence is, but my mind keeps recalling details of what Austin Sigg did to Jessica Ridgeway.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/1...d-in-springfield-abduction.html#storylink=cpy​

 

[blue22]

Everyone is *repeatedly* missing the point and replying with things the witnesses did AFTER she was grabbed. I won't pursue this any longer as you all continue to state only what actions were done AFTER she was abducted.
Because the reality is there was no shout, or no action taken BEFORE Hailey was grabbed.

I'll refer to the USA Today video, which is the witness himself, in his own words. He was in a garage extremely close to Wood's vehicle and Hailey, and he did not shout out while he sat there hearing Wood ask Hailey questions. The fact is,, nobody did anything or move an inch prior to Hailey being grabbed (outside the vehicle and after the perp opened the door)

USA Today Witness Video

Honest question (for those brave enuf to answer):
Now if your 10 yr old were seen talking to a 45 yr old male stranger in a car, honestly, would you be completely understanding and comfortable with a nearby adult merely watching an obvious (to me) setup for a possible abduction, without that adult taking action BEFORE your child was grabbed? Just so long as he took the perp's license tag number, all would be ok?

I'd like to concentrate on the actual perp now, but keep getting an influx of faulty defenses re the witness's actions.

So you were there? Or do you somehow just know that's how it happened?

You aren't getting a faulty defense. People are concentrating on the person who ACTUALLY committed a crime here. Which, happens to not be the witnesses. If you want to have outrage, be mad at the amber alert that COULD have saved her, but was woefully late.

 

[CHERIE.T]

How many hours between the time of the abduction to the time they discovered what could be her remains? It sounds *almost* as if they were having a difficult time not only determining the remains were that of a female, but also that of a human.

I don't think so Paige SC, reports said a body had been found. They had to identify if it was Hailey.

 

[Tokalu]

I drove by Phelps Grove Park and there was nothing going on, so I don't believe that the location another poster mentioned is relevant. the laundromat is a very well populated area and I'm sure that someone musta seen him coming and going. its right by the college and also a liquor store. He must have been either stupid or so narcissistic he thought he wouldn't get caught.

The street where the house is was closed off as of an hour ago.

did anyone else notice on the press conference there was a dog being taken away from the house? I thought that was kind of strange. it wasn't a police search dog I actually saw animal control officers.

 

[jennapuppy]

If the witnesses had scared the perp away before he'd had a chance to abduct Hailey, he would have been even more careful to make certain there were no witnesses around when he approached his next victim. What he did to Hailey is a horrible tragedy, but thankfully he's off the streets and won't be able to harm anyone else.

 

[4SAM]

Everybody: stop typing and take a big breath and now exhale.

 

[Paige SC]

I noticed that on the Tax Collectors website, the perp's house was owned by "Craig M Wood et. al" and I wonder if he lived there alone.

The warranty deed info from the Greene County Recorder website:

Document Number 032077-10
Instrument Type WD - WARRANTY DEED
Instrument Date 08-16-2010
Note Amount 0
Record Date/Time 08-18-2010 12:18pm
Book / Page 2010 / 032077-10
Affect Book / Page

Grantors MHP III LLC

Grantees WOOD J** D***** and WOOD CRAIG MICHAEL

I edited the name of the co-owner. How on earth did CM Wood think he'd get away with this if someone else lived there?

To me, this seems to be a crime committed in a state of "mania", compliments of psychotropic medication and/or illegal drugs. If drugs are involved my best guess is they're legal rxs. He didn't care - his mission was to abduct, probably abuse & kill a child. Nothing was going to prevent him from it. He didn't seem to be overly concerned with the consequences. His lack of a meaningful criminal record, coupled with his age & long standing, uneventful career around kids surely isn't the typical profile of a predator/killer. At least not for first time offenders. And the brazen way this crime was committed he doesn't appear to be all that seasoned at it. Just total speculation on my part.

 

[FlamingoLady]

I drove by Phelps Grove Park and there was nothing going on, so I don't believe that the location another poster mentioned is relevant. the laundromat is a very well populated area and I'm sure that someone musta seen him coming and going. its right by the college and also a liquor store. He must have been either stupid or so narcissistic he thought he wouldn't get caught.

The street where the house is was closed off as of an hour ago.

did anyone else notice on the press conference there was a dog being taken away from the house? I thought that was kind of strange. it wasn't a police search dog I actually saw animal control officers.

I personally don't recall seeing a dog but then again, I only listened as opposed to watched the majority of it.
It was probably CW's dog and there won't be anyone there to tae care of it since he's in jail (thank God). They can't just leave the dog there.

 

[popsicle]

I drove by Phelps Grove Park and there was nothing going on, so I don't believe that the location another poster mentioned is relevant. the laundromat is a very well populated area and I'm sure that someone musta seen him coming and going. its right by the college and also a liquor store. He must have been either stupid or so narcissistic he thought he wouldn't get caught.

The street where the house is was closed off as of an hour ago.

did anyone else notice on the press conference there was a dog being taken away from the house? I thought that was kind of strange. it wasn't a police search dog I actually saw animal control officers.

Because the owner has been arrested, they can't just leave the dog there. imo If family wants to claim the dog they can go to the shelter and arrange to get the dog.

 

[Methodical]

So you were there? Or do you somehow just know that's how it happened?

You aren't getting a faulty defense. People are concentrating on the person who ACTUALLY committed a crime here. Which, happens to not be the witnesses. If you want to have outrage, be mad at the amber alert that COULD have saved her, but was woefully late.

Were you there? I have enough info to make that assessment of what I think easily could have been done different, with a much better outcome. I've saved a life or two with a 1 second shout, in critical scenarios of 5 seconds or less. So my talk and insight are not just frivolous second-guessing. Those were active shooters, not an abduction, but the same rules apply.

I was also furious at the 2 hr delay in Amber Alert issuance. That is totally inexcusable to say the least. It defeats every single purpose of the AA system.

 

[hollye]

I noticed that on the Tax Collectors website, the perp's house was owned by "Craig M Wood et. al" and I wonder if he lived there alone.

The warranty deed info from the Greene County Recorder website:

Document Number 032077-10
Instrument Type WD - WARRANTY DEED
Instrument Date 08-16-2010
Note Amount 0
Record Date/Time 08-18-2010 12:18pm
Book / Page 2010 / 032077-10
Affect Book / Page

Grantors MHP III LLC

Grantees WOOD J** D***** and WOOD CRAIG MICHAEL

I edited the name of the co-owner. How on earth did CM Wood think he'd get away with this if someone else lived there?

EDITED TO ADD: Nevermind! It looks like his father is the co-owner (I'm assuming based on his marriage date of 07-02-1966).

White Pages pulls up his father as a resident, but quite possible that he does not reside there. Based on the salary info that someone posted upthread, it is possible that CW needed a cosigner for the house. JMOO

 

[Tokalu]

what I meant was, I thought it was strange in context of everything I've been hearing about the condition of the body that there would be a dog there. I don't really want to come out and say it but I think some people understand what I'm getting at.

 

[Paige SC]

I don't think so Paige SC, reports said a body had been found. They had to identify if it was Hailey.

I believe they wouldn't confirm or deny whether or not the body was in tact..

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

To me, this seems to be a crime committed in a state of "mania", compliments of psychotropic medication and/or illegal drugs. If drugs are involved my best guess is they're legal rxs. He didn't care - his mission was to abduct, probably abuse & kill a child. Nothing was going to prevent him from it. He didn't seem to be overly concerned with the consequences. His lack of a meaningful criminal record, coupled with his age & long standing, uneventful career around kids surely isn't the typical profile of a predator/killer. At least not for first time offenders. And the brazen way this crime was committed he doesn't appear to be all that seasoned at it. Just total speculation on my part.

I respectfully disagree. JMO but I happen to think he was very "seasoned" and, as a result, became overly confident in himself/his skills - This led to him slipping up, which is often the case with serial offenders. Yes, I do happen to think he's a serial offender.

 

[2girlzmm]

I drove by Phelps Grove Park and there was nothing going on, so I don't believe that the location another poster mentioned is relevant. the laundromat is a very well populated area and I'm sure that someone musta seen him coming and going. its right by the college and also a liquor store. He must have been either stupid or so narcissistic he thought he wouldn't get caught.

The street where the house is was closed off as of an hour ago.

did anyone else notice on the press conference there was a dog being taken away from the house? I thought that was kind of strange. it wasn't a police search dog I actually saw animal control officers.

I saw that too. If only that dog could talk and tell us what happened. poor puppy.