GUILTY MO - Hailey Owens, 10, Springfield, 18 Feb 2014 #2

[gitana1]

Looking at the pictures of Hailey in the media show such a beautiful and happy little girl.
I worry about her family dealing with her kidnapping and murder.
As parents how would they not go over and over and over in their head about the events that they know happened?
HOW do they deal with that?
I think I would go insane worrying about how scared she was, her suffering, etc. OMG I just pray for her loved ones.
Rest in peace sweet angel.

BBM.

How does any parent of a child murdered in such a manner "deal" with it?
I think mostly they just try to survive as best as they can.

 

[~greeneyedgirl~]

Interview with Hailey's mom:

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/exclu...alks-to-hailey-owens-mother/21048998_24583508

That poor woman....

 

[Melanie]

I do believe she's heavily medicated at this time. Believe me, I know and can see the signs. I lost my daughter in a fiery car accident 2 years ago. She was my best friend and the love of my heart. Waved goodbye to me (on her way to work--left her 7 yo for me to babysit), said "love you" and I never saw her again ... I stayed heavily medicated for one full year after her death and still struggle every day with my grief. She wasn't snatched away from me by a preditor and I know it wasn't anything like this, but she is dead the same. My heart breaks for this mother in her loss and I can see the pain she's trying to disguise ... I hope she will seek counseling because she's gonna need it. I know I did/do. It's not something I would wish on anyone, ever. :twocents:

I'm so sorry KayBe :heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat:

Melanie

 

[2girlzmm]

I do believe she's heavily medicated at this time. Believe me, I know and can see the signs. I lost my daughter in a fiery car accident 2 years ago. She was my best friend and the love of my heart. Waved goodbye to me (on her way to work--left her 7 yo for me to babysit), said "love you" and I never saw her again ... I stayed heavily medicated for one full year after her death and still struggle every day with my grief. She wasn't snatched away from me by a preditor and I know it wasn't anything like this, but she is dead the same. My heart breaks for this mother in her loss and I can see the pain she's trying to disguise ... I hope she will seek counseling because she's gonna need it. I know I did/do. It's not something I would wish on anyone, ever. :twocents:

Kaybe I am so sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine the pain of losing a child.

 

[gitana1]

Interview with Hailey's mom:

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/exclu...alks-to-hailey-owens-mother/21048998_24583508

Bless her heart. Tears just silently streaming down my face. There is something very innocent and vulnerable about this poor woman to begin with, I think. Seems like a sweet, sweet lady who could never truly imagine something like this, despite taking precautions.

Just bless her poor heart.

 

[gregjrichards]

under the interview the caption said that Steve was there to do a report when mom came to him and only wanted to talk to him. do not agree that it was the right time but if she wanted to talk what was he suppose to do.

Sorry I didn't know that but I think he should have spoke to her off camera and advised her to wait until another time and give him a call then. I doubt she is in the right frame of mind just now to speak publicly.

 

[jggordo]

There was another child case recently right there in Springfield I believe, I wonder if they knew each other? That perp is in jail. I'll see if I can find it. In that case the mom was looking on the computer for pictures for the Christmas cards and stumbled on all these pics. And it was their own kids.

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/sp...ony-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬/d/story/gKlfu3mZSkibNp2OfSkHIQ

 

[floridamomma]

I feel guilty for thinking that but, I feel the same way. He looks creepy.
He doesn't look like a teacher IMOO, much less a coach.

I don't feel guilty. not at all. dude might be a total stand up guy, but I go on my instincts, especially when it comes to my kids.

I didn't like a bus driver once, just listening to my momma instincts. demanded to see his yearly physical that is required by the state.... they switched him to another route, not wanting to ruffle my feathers. Grrr.

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[davehead21]

Does anyone get the vibe of "sociopath" from his mugshot? No emotion at all in his eyes or face.

Also - maybe I'm being too snobby but I was under the impression teachers are to have a professional appearance & dress. I understand he was not a certified teacher, but he was a full-time paraprofessional. I've just never seen a male teacher an appearance similar to his.

I had a teacher in high school who had a huge, bushy beard and longish hair (not as long as CMW's though). He was one of the best teachers I've ever had and one of the smartest people I've ever known. I don't judge people on their appearance and just because a man chooses to have a beard or long hair doesn't mean he looks "creepy" IMO.

I do believe she's heavily medicated at this time. Believe me, I know and can see the signs. I lost my daughter in a fiery car accident 2 years ago. She was my best friend and the love of my heart. Waved goodbye to me (on her way to work--left her 7 yo for me to babysit), said "love you" and I never saw her again ... I stayed heavily medicated for one full year after her death and still struggle every day with my grief. She wasn't snatched away from me by a preditor and I know it wasn't anything like this, but she is dead the same. My heart breaks for this mother in her loss and I can see the pain she's trying to disguise ... I hope she will seek counseling because she's gonna need it. I know I did/do. It's not something I would wish on anyone, ever. :twocents:

I am so very sorry for your loss, KayBe. Bless your heart....I cannot even imagine.

 

[SStarr33]

I am so sad and so angry that Hailey lost her life to this monster. When will this ever end? "We" as advocates need to stop ourselves from making excuses as to "why" this monster kidnapped and murdered Hailey, and start praising the acts of the witnesses who-without their care and concern, Hailey's case probably would never be solved. I am not only sad, today I am angry. I feel deep down in my soul that there are more victims out there -and this was premeditated. The "blackout" excuse does not work with me.
~fly free Hailey~

My guess is he was saying the blackout thing was blacking out from drinking, not random blackouts.

 

[Melanie]

That poor woman....

What a stoic and powerful woman. I blubbed my eyes out.

Mel

 

[gregjrichards]

I do believe she's heavily medicated at this time. Believe me, I know and can see the signs. I lost my daughter in a fiery car accident 2 years ago. She was my best friend and the love of my heart. Waved goodbye to me (on her way to work--left her 7 yo for me to babysit), said "love you" and I never saw her again ... I stayed heavily medicated for one full year after her death and still struggle every day with my grief. She wasn't snatched away from me by a preditor and I know it wasn't anything like this, but she is dead the same. My heart breaks for this mother in her loss and I can see the pain she's trying to disguise ... I hope she will seek counseling because she's gonna need it. I know I did/do. It's not something I would wish on anyone, ever. :twocents:

Sorry for your loss KayBe I can't imagine loosing a child or parent. I still see a counselor once a month and have done for the last 7 &1/2 years. It does help having someone to speak to who is a professional when something traumatic has happened to you.

 

[Lava]

Poor Mom. She looks like she is hanging on to every single positive thing to keep busy and preoccupied. You can see when that front wavers, shes trying so hard to hold it in. It is going to be very difficult when the shock wears off and other people go on with their lives. I hope she has a good support system.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Two neighbors who witnessed the kidnapping are now struggling to live with the outcome.

Ricky Riggins says he was sitting in his vehicle in his driveway when he heard his neighbor scream Tuesday afternoon. "Yelling at her at the girl telling her to get away don't go to the truck, get away, get away and then he yelled at the man, let her go, let her go!" described Riggins.

The neighbors say they were too late. "He opened the door and said hey come here, and grabbed her and my neighbor tried to grab her and he's like this far from getting her out of his hands," said Riggins.

Riggins then chased Wood in his vehicle, but couldn't catch up with him. www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2014/02/19/craig-wood-charged-murder-kidnapping-hailey-owens/5621469/

IMO, there's just zero doubt that this monster knew that he had been sighted at the scene..and IMO, it only further cements the fact that these violent predators are so obsessed and determined by the time they act on their sick fantasies and desires(that have been years in the making)..that nothing else matters to them than following through, from the moment they've gotten their victim in their grip..THAT'S IT!.. the consequences don't matter, and IMO, AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME its not even important for them to get away with their crime..the only thing that matters is the here and now, and their acting on and following through with their sick desires..

They are monsters who masquerade under the guise of "normal", every day citizens..they're are neighbors, they are the people who we see everyday, who we may even give the obligatory wave to as we pass them in the neighborhood..but make no mistake they are monsters who are looking and watching and waiting to act on their sick desires, and its our children who are their targets..

Monsters who can NOT EVER be rehabilitated, EVER!!

 

[iamnotagolem]

I had a teacher in high school who had a huge, bushy beard and longish hair (not as long as CMW's though). He was one of the best teachers I've ever had and one of the smartest people I've ever known. I don't judge people on their appearance and just because a man chooses to have a beard or long hair doesn't mean he looks "creepy" IMO.



I am so very sorry for your loss, KayBe. Bless your heart....I cannot even imagine.

It's not even his hair and beard that creep me out. One of my high school teachers/bus driver had longish hair and a beard & mustache. But nothing about him was ever creepy, I've visited him many times since high school.

This guy creeps me out. Something in his eyes.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Many of us believe he's done this before, when I looked into missing persons I set the ages from 7-11.

But since then I've been thinking, she was reportedly 5'2", maybe he thought she was older. Maybe that's why he shot her? Maybe he typically goes for older girls.

Has anyone looked into unsolved cases for teens?

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Does anyone get the vibe of "sociopath" from his mugshot? No emotion at all in his eyes or face.
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I usually do get a vibe of "sociopath" from people's mugshots. But he also looks like any other musician in his band photos, where he's smiling and playing his mandolin, so it may just be a matter of how he looks in context.

The scary thing for a lot of people is to realize that there really is not this neat dividing line in society between "monster" and "human." (And I know some people might disagree with that.) So when someone who's been a teacher for 20 years (or parent, or pastor, or priest, or....whatever) suddenly commits a crime of this nature, we tend to feel like he must have been "conning" us all these years, pretending to be human when all the time he was really a monster in clever disguise. We scour previous records and background checks to see how someone could have missed what must have been obvious--the monster in disguise.

Human behavior is a continuum, though; a person's behavioral pendulum does swing, though usually within parameters of their personality. But if something physiologically or psychologically alters a person's brain, then all bets are off. Not saying that Woods had a psychotic break, brain tumor, or was on a meth high, necessarily (we don't know), but those are just some examples of how a behavioral 'norm' can be altered for a formerly average person.

JMO, of course, but I believe we are all capable of more good and bad than we give ourselves credit for. Add to that our nation's epidemic of crystal meth use this last decade, and that's just bound to increase the number of cases where poor judgment and aggression combine to create the bad, 'monster' behaviors we're seeing in society, now. Meth use a decade ago was primarily a southwestern state problem. Now it's country-wide, and in every socioeconomic strata.

Not saying that's what happened in this case, of course (we don't know)--but in any event, we are bound to see more brutal aggression and criminal behavior in American society in general as a result of not winning the war on illegal drug use. Most of us have heard of these reported effects of meth use:

In addition to affecting cognitive abilities, these changes in brain chemistry can lead to disturbing, even violent behavior. Meth, like all stimulants, causes the brain to release high doses of adrenaline, the body's "fight or flight" mechanism, inducing anxiety, wakefulness and intensely focused attention, called "tweaking." When users are tweaking, they exhibit hyperactive and obsessive behavior...

One of the most dangerous effects of meth on the body is the increase in sex drive and the lowering of sexual inhibitions among some users, which puts them at risk for sexually transmitted diseases. Although meth is not necessarily an aphrodisiac, it does trigger the release of powerful brain chemicals that may increase sex drive, such as dopamine, which gives the user a sense of well-being and desirability, and adrenaline, which provides the user with a boost in confidence and stamina. Meanwhile, these chemicals impair the judgment centers of the brain. "You do things when you're on meth that you would never do sober," explains Peter Staley, a former meth user. "You drop your guard...."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/body/

 

[Bravo]

IMO "If" this is a sexually based crime which I believe it is it's not his first time. Maybe his first kill but not his first Victim. IMO.

 

[matou]

I can't think of an child abduction case, where there was sexual assault (I'm assuming this in this case) and where the child victim was shot. Many times the perp uses a more direct physical way to kill his victim (strangulation, stabbed, etc).

I hope he had no other victims. I hope he didn't have a dungeon or torture chamber in his basement since he lived alone. JMO

 

[iamnotagolem]

I can't think of an child abduction case, where there was sexual assault (I'm assuming this in this case) and where the child victim was shot. Many times the perp uses a more direct physical way to kill his victim (strangulation, stabbed, etc).

I hope he had no other victims. I hope he didn't have a dungeon or torture chamber in his basement since he lived alone. JMO

I wondered that, too. If he had someone he abducted many years ago and kept in the basement.