MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Threats can easily stay effective for a long time. Read this section on the Bible/Freeman wiki: Murders of Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - Wikipedia

Polaroids of the women were shown to those who knew to flex and keep them from talking.

 

[cherrymeg]

Threats can easily stay effective for a long time. Read this section on the Bible/Freeman wiki: Murders of Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - Wikipedia

Polaroids of the women were shown to those who knew to flex and keep them from talking.

Or the people they confessed to or bragged about raping two young girls weren't inclined to involve the police. The Bible/Freeman case has incompetent or corrupt LE right from the start.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Or the people they confessed to or bragged about raping two young girls weren't inclined to involve the police. The Bible/Freeman case has incompetent or corrupt LE right from the start.

And you have proof this one wasn't corrupted or had incompetent LE?

You have proof people who know about 3MW are inclined to involve police or not?

 

[cherrymeg]

And you have proof this one wasn't?

You have proof people who know about 3MW are inclined to involve police or not?

I was talking about the Bible/Freeman case. They missed a body, identification that led back to the killer/s. Missing photos too. People claim fear now but that might be to avoid prosecution. You are comparing two tragic yet very different cases. You've studied the 3MW for decades have you ever thought their disappearance was an open secret?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

It's very possible the person(s) threatening are using similar techniques as perps and ones in the know during Bible/Freeman case.

 

[cherrymeg]

It's very possible the person(s) threatening are using similar techniques as perps and ones in the know during Bible/Freeman case.

It seemed like the Freeman/Bible murderers weren't taken seriously by people on an individual level. That could factor into the killer/s of the 3MW, but it could be because they aren't known or the case isn't, near them, so saying you killed three women would get an eye roll in a bar.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

It's very possible the person(s) threatening are using similar techniques as perps and ones in the know during Bible/Freeman case.

Strange Dynamic about this case. When people that were involved in the investigation, or people who "Know" about things regarding the investigation, or think they know what happened, WON'T TALK AT ALL. It's weird. I spoke to a guy last year, who was involved in the local Law Enforcement community in Springfield, he wasn't a cop, but the knew a lot of cops, as well as a bunch of lawyers, and I think a Judge. And when I asked him about the case, he got real strange and quiet, and refused to discuss it. I tried every trick I knew to get him to talk or slip up, and he wouldn't budge. Wouldn't even give me a clue or a hint. Seemed very spooked.....for a lack of a better way to describe it. QUESTION IS: WHY? What geeks people out about this case, so much, that even people who may be "In the know" but not Law Enforcement, won't even discuss it? What?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Scooby,

I’ve hit that same wall in my investigation. Anytime I ask about why Detective Thomas took Garrison into a hotel, people get weird. Same about when I ask about the GJ in 1994. Basically exactly what you said...

Always wondered if same perps were responsible for other missing persons cases

 

[cherrymeg]

Scooby,

I’ve hit that same wall in my investigation. Anytime I ask about why Detective Thomas took Garrison into a hotel, people get weird. Same about when I ask about the GJ in 1994. Basically exactly what you said...

Always wondered if same perps were responsible for other missing persons cases

Is there a gag order on the grand jury?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Is there a gag order on the grand jury?

I’m talking about suspects. IE Garrison. And his info he claims to have about the ones responsible.

Public knowledge. I didn’t ask for specifics on questions and answers. Though some of that info has been given on the internet over the years by a couple who were subpoenaed.

 

[cherrymeg]

I’m talking about suspects. IE Garrison. And his info he claims to have about the ones responsible.

Public knowledge. I didn’t ask for specifics on questions and answers. Though some of that info has been given on the internet over the years by a couple who were subpoenaed.

I was wondering if a gag order would make LE unable to talk about certain things.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

I was wondering if a gag order would make LE unable to talk about certain things.

But that's just it. Even people who Aren't Law Enforcement, but who travel in the same circles, like "Bail Bond Agents" for example.......won't discuss the case. Even though they act like they know "Something" about it.
So what is spooking these people. Was it a prominent person or member of a prominent family?
Was it a politician, or authority figure (Not Cop), but may be a Judge, or a prominent business person.
Why are people who are not even cops, reluctant to discuss the case. What is spooking these people so freaking badly?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

It’s not about gag orders. Scooby’s story resonated with me. Without breaking Websleuths posting rules mentioning what cops I’ve interviewed told me, one of the reactions often exuded was a complete shut down and often wanting to change the subject.

Sometimes flexing and shmoozing is in order. And that was done. There’s many interesting things surrounding this case. It’s already solved IMO but the proof is hopefully picking up steam. A couple people are getting nervous.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

But that's just it. Even people who Aren't Law Enforcement, but who travel in the same circles, like "Bail Bond Agents" for example.......won't discuss the case. Even though they act like they know "Something" about it.
So what is spooking these people. Was it a prominent person or member of a prominent family?
Was it a politician, or authority figure (Not Cop), but may be a Judge, or a prominent business person.
Why are people who are not even cops, reluctant to discuss the case. What is spooking these people so freaking badly?

I've been exploring the idea of a business person and cop/authority figure. If threats aren't used to keep people quiet, keeping someone on "payroll" will do the trick. Sometimes authority figures prefer to avoid lawsuits, etc. so they stay quiet even if they know.

 

[Catmommy]

ALL of these different and varied people are staying quiet or changing the subject? That's an awful lot of people to be able to put the kibosh on without any of them speaking up, in my opinion. Not a slip by a single soul? Maybe it's because none of them know anything whatsoever. That, too, could explain it.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

ALL of these different and varied people are staying quiet or changing the subject? That's an awful lot of people to be able to put the kibosh on without any of them speaking up, in my opinion. Not a slip by a single soul? Maybe it's because none of them know anything whatsoever. That, too, could explain it.

It's easier to control people than you think.

Simply tell them "if you talk, I'll kill your family" or they have evidence of you connected and threaten to use it if you talk. Or they have power and influence (like a cop or judge or rich person with connections)

Again, this has worked in many other cases.

 

[cherrymeg]

But that's just it. Even people who Aren't Law Enforcement, but who travel in the same circles, like "Bail Bond Agents" for example.......won't discuss the case. Even though they act like they know "Something" about it.
So what is spooking these people. Was it a prominent person or member of a prominent family?
Was it a politician, or authority figure (Not Cop), but may be a Judge, or a prominent business person.
Why are people who are not even cops, reluctant to discuss the case. What is spooking these people so freaking badly?

Maybe people are protecting a prominent figure in the community or justice system or a family member. Maybe some rich boys home from college thought they'd crash a party and mess with two local girls. Followed them home or were invited in because they seemed like nice guys. This is just a random theory. A parent wouldn't want their child to have their life ruined by a mistake even if it was rape or murder. The parent/s clean up the mess and the young sociopath/s go back to school maybe spend the summer interning or traveling. People involved split up go their separate ways and manage to either function in society or end up with arrests and rehabs etc.
moo or random thoughts.

 

[Catmommy]

I can't subscribe to a conspiracy theory of any kind that would involve so very many people for so many years especially knowing that relationships do change, people divorce, people move away, people die; decreasing any kind of threat from an outside source no matter how prominent or politically connected.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

I can't subscribe to a conspiracy theory of any kind that would involve so very many people for so many years especially knowing that relationships do change, people divorce, people move away, people die; decreasing any kind of threat from an outside source no matter how prominent or politically connected.

I’m sure people in Bible Freeman case thought the same.

And yes the things you said do happen. Some die. Some go to prison. Some have power to keep people quiet. All can be true.

It’s very easy to control people with threats. Especially if they have power and flexed on that power to reinforce.

Most triple abductions tend to get solved very quickly. There’s reasons this one isn’t. It ain’t because perps were slick.

 

[Catmommy]

And perhaps, it is, like I suppose, one perp who has kept his secret alone and continues to keep it. Perhaps one day we'll know.