MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #14

[Bartt Streeter]

Since we’re basing facts now on dramatized reenactment television shows ,

On people mag , Asher states “ Robert Cox worked for a telephone company and they were surveying their underground wiring in front of Sherrill & Suzies house “

It’s been said he worked “ in the area “ which is open to interpretation on distance . It could mean 1,2 miles or further to different people . Huge difference of actually in front of their house .

They could have pulled the work order then easily . Did they ? And why is he going public with that info now ?

Props for the sarcasm !

Let us not not base facts on dramatized reenactment television shows.

 

[Bartt Streeter]

Since we’re basing facts now on dramatized reenactment television shows ,

On people mag , Asher states “ Robert Cox worked for a telephone company and they were surveying their underground wiring in front of Sherrill & Suzies house “

It’s been said he worked “ in the area “ which is open to interpretation on distance . It could mean 1,2 miles or further to different people . Huge difference of actually in front of their house .

They could have pulled the work order then easily . Did they ? And why is he going public with that info now ?

An underground utility locator is NOT a land surveyor.

Underground utility marker personnel work for a location service, land surveyors work for at engineering companys or land survey company two completely different professions.

However, as a surveyor I have gone out many times and done surveys on the marks left by locator services.

What was sai by Asher, is what I believe is just
one more futile attempt by Asher to link Cox and I together, at least in the public eye.

However it's just a coincidence that Cox actually worked in the same building with Mr. McCall.

I have seen pictures taken outside of my mother's house during the first couple day after the abductions and you can see underground utilities have been worked on directly in front of my mother's driveway, there are the paint markings that are left by a person working for an underground utility locator service.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Since we’re basing facts now on dramatized reenactment television shows ,

On people mag , Asher states “ Robert Cox worked for a telephone company and they were surveying their underground wiring in front of Sherrill & Suzies house “

It’s been said he worked “ in the area “ which is open to interpretation on distance . It could mean 1,2 miles or further to different people . Huge difference of actually in front of their house .

They could have pulled the work order then easily . Did they ? And why is he going public with that info now ?

I mean it's not like people do that with Janelle's statements either

Where's the lie by Asher? He's right... the telephone company did do surveying there. Cox did work there.. maybe they did pull the work order,, do you know? I mean that could be how he knows this.....and its not on cops to make investigation public... its on journalists to ascertain it

"It's been said" by who? Who do you mean when you say "it's been said"?

Detective Mark Webb and Asher and Neal are all lying and part of voodoo TV editing tricks..? lol....definitive detective statements are their word....there's no "reenactments"...this isnt an actor's word...this isnt the guy who played Bartt or Mike reenacting.....this is the actual detectives talking

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

An underground utility locator is NOT a land surveyor.

Underground utility marker personnel work for a location service, land surveyors work for at engineering companys or land survey company two completely different professions.

However, as a surveyor I have gone out many times and done surveys on the marks left by locator services.

What was sai by Asher, is what I believe is just
one more futile attempt by Asher to link Cox and I together, at least in the public eye.

However it's just a coincidence that Cox actually worked in the same building with Mr. McCall.

I have seen pictures taken outside of my mother's house during the first couple day after the abductions and you can see underground utilities have been worked on directly in front of my mother's driveway, there are the paint markings that are left by a person working for an underground utility locator service.

I dont think Asher believes you're guilty nor do I think he thinks youre linked to Cox. Mr. McCall is linked to Cox. I still think its unlikely Robert cox spotted the women in battlefield and followed them home during their last minute switcharoo to come to Delmar....

Asher has some personal thing with you....it could be a number of things. his first impression? maybe he weirdly hates all alcoholics because his dad was one or something?? maybe he has an issue with the relationship you had with suzie? you make for a perfect scapegoat to him and spd when people ask they they havent solved the crime.........that's my guess on what he's up to...bc EVEN HE doesnt think you did it..

 

[TexasT]

An underground utility locator is NOT a land surveyor.

Underground utility marker personnel work for a location service, land surveyors work for at engineering companys or land survey company two completely different professions.

However, as a surveyor I have gone out many times and done surveys on the marks left by locator services.

What was sai by Asher, is what I believe is just
one more futile attempt by Asher to link Cox and I together, at least in the public eye.

However it's just a coincidence that Cox actually worked in the same building with Mr. McCall.

I have seen pictures taken outside of my mother's house during the first couple day after the abductions and you can see underground utilities have been worked on directly in front of my mother's driveway, there are the paint markings that are left by a person working for an underground utility locator service.

Yes I know Cox list Locator for SW Bell as an occupation .
I know Stu also thinks The dealership connection was a coincidence .

But , How much of a coincidence if he literally worked in front of the house / driveway ?

 

[Ozoner]

Yes I know Cox list Locator for SW Bell as an occupation .
I know Stu also thinks The dealership connection was a coincidence .

But , How much of a coincidence if he literally worked in front of the house / driveway ?

If Cox literally worked in front of the house, he'd skyrocket to being my number one suspect.

 

[Bartt Streeter]

I dont think Asher believes you're guilty nor do I think he thinks youre linked to Cox. Mr. McCall is linked to Cox. I still think its unlikely Robert cox spotted the women in battlefield and followed them home during their last minute switcharoo to come to Delmar....

Asher has some personal thing with you....it could be a number of things. his first impression? maybe he weirdly hates all alcoholics because his dad was one or something?? maybe he has an issue with the relationship you had with suzie? you make for a perfect scapegoat to him and spd when people ask they they havent solved the crime.........that's my guess on what he's up to...bc EVEN HE doesnt think you did it..

Thanks for sharing.

I lived it, I saw his need to see and present my family and myself as less than.
I also saw how deeply he was affected by Stacy McCall's loss and how overwhelmingly concerned he was for her families loss.

What he's doing now should concern people the SPD should have spoken up, but a cover-up is in place. Gag orders on search warrants and findings from decades ago. WTF

The continued bluewall of silence surrounding the review of the case done by
NCMEC. WTF

At this point, I'm comfortable with saying.. COVER-UP !!

This cover-up is about liability, legal liability -money. Reputations, careers and pensions could be jeopardized.

They know if they release the facts, including how this case was handled it's liable.

 

[TexasT]

• If Cox literally worked in front of the house, he'd skyrocket to being my number one suspect.

He lied about his Alibi and they used his girlfriend to verify ? Really ? How about interview the entire Central Assembly of God Church congregation ??
And how many times were his parents re interviewed ? To see if they verify he was / was not there ?
Remember the profiler said that the person would have been out of pocket late on June 6 and early June 7th.

 

[Seeker994]

I also sense something of a cover up. And I agree, Bartt. I do feel bad for the Mcalls, but the media was unjust in their portrayal of Sherrill and Suzy. And they were also so unfair to you. For what it’s worth I NEVER considered you a suspect. I said it before and I’ll say it again. I believe many locals are involved with keeping this covered up because of their reputations and the fact they have money and influence to keep people quiet. I also think the police totally botched this case in the beginning and do not want to take responsibility for their faults. I know I sound like a Broken record, but I still feel as if JK knows something. Her actions that morning were so strange to me. Had she bothered to call Janice after seeing all the cars and purses there then I wouldn’t be as suspicious. But she didn’t. I also do not believe any man called while she was in the house.

 

[Bartt Streeter]

I've seen posts over the years, that have described
Asher as a decorated,
case solving professional.
I've done research I've attempted
to verify those comments, that's not what I'm finding.

It shouldn't be personal between him and I, but this last TV show made it obvious he doesn't care if he has to lie, as long as he can cause me personal damage. And he has.

When it comes to Suzie's car, that was a personal dig at Mike and Dusty from Asher.

(Joe, who ? Cops never made it personal with Joe it's always made me wonder, why?

Asher is desperate to keep people distracted, distracted from what?




So much of this case and the overt behaviors of some detectives have been primarily about diversion.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I've seen posts over the years, that have described
Asher as a decorated,
case solving professional.
I've done research I've attempted
to verify those comments, that's not what I'm finding.

It shouldn't be personal between him and I, but this last TV show made it obvious he doesn't care if he has to lie, as long as he can cause me personal damage. And he has.

When it comes to Suzie's car, that was a personal dig at Mike and Dusty from Asher.

(Joe, who ? Cops never made it personal with Joe it's always made me wonder, why?

Asher is desperate to keep people distracted, distracted from what?




So much of this case and the overt behaviors of some detectives have been primarily about diversion.

I may have a couple of answers for you. As you may or not know, I have talked briefly with Garrison by phone. He offered up a personal opinion.

<modsnip>

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Thanks for sharing.

I lived it, I saw his need to see and present my family and myself as less than.
I also saw how deeply he was affected by Stacy McCall's loss and how overwhelmingly concerned he was for her families loss.

What he's doing now should concern people the SPD should have spoken up, but a cover-up is in place. Gag orders on search warrants and findings from decades ago. WTF

The continued bluewall of silence surrounding the review of the case done by
NCMEC. WTF

At this point, I'm comfortable with saying.. COVER-UP !!

This cover-up is about liability, legal liability -money. Reputations, careers and pensions could be jeopardized.

They know if they release the facts, including how this case was handled it's liable.

Now we're cookin' with gas...

i dont think he was taking a shot at Clay with the car comment... I think the car was used at some point in the night...even if they were tripping acid before deciding to mess with the dead...at the very least, recla was in the car at some point during the commission of the crime

we agree on things here. Cover up? I dont know...but yet lets discuss Joe. Asher himself couldnt bother to admit to Joe taking a test or not? So he says Clay and Recla did.....and passed? but cant be bothered to mention JOE?

I agree--if a cover-up exists, its to protect pensions/reputations. I also agree the gag orders are manipulated by law enforcement to control things..............however the reason i harp on Clay is because he rides with Joe to IL. He is friends with Joe.. Joe is in town (but not with Clay) and has no alibi for that night.,.... when it comes to the gag orders.. theres one man surrounding those circumstances, Steve Garrison.. And Mike Clay has a direct connection to Garrison and his Goose friends via his ex girlfriend and Recla had a direct connection from dating Jaime and her mother dating Garrison...steve said someone "bragged about killing the women at a party"...so who did steve hang out with? Oh yeah RECLA AND CLAY. And Gooses. And strippers (Clay's sister worked at one of them)....this small town all knew each other.....so there's a good chance Clay indirectly knows someone involved in this disappearance................and he either is aware and scared for his life or he's not aware and so that's why his words have meaning...even the small stuff like suzie's car and dusty's alibi

 

[Talullah]

Interesting.. thanks Bartt for answering

So why do you think your sister was asked to leave work and come down to the station? Why would she be a party the cops even cared about? They didn’t ask Mike’s girlfriend. Just Suzie. Why do you suppose? Dusty didnt even take part in the robbing......so why bother with his gf?

Not on this link.

It's Webb talking about Suzie talking to the cops

That episode doesn’t support the statement that Suzie was asked to leave work to go to the police station. Webb says; police found out Suzie was Dusty’s girlfriend during their investigation into the grave robbery. She gave a statement at the police station and didn’t know about the vandalism until after it happened. Do you have another link?

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

That episode doesn’t support the statement that Suzie was asked to leave work to go to the police station. Webb says; police found out Suzie was Dusty’s girlfriend during their investigation into the grave robbery. She gave a statement at the police station and didn’t know about the vandalism until after it happened. Do you have another link?

Yes it does... at least the points I was bringing up. There’s no proof she didn’t know about the vandalism until after it happened.... I wasn’t even talking about that..

I was saying that Suzie was cooperative with the cops. And Asher states the car was used in the commission of the crime (there’s other documents that aren’t tv shows public that also prove this point...that’s why i asked Bartt if he was so positive...

 

[Bartt Streeter]

Now we're cookin' with gas...

i dont think he was taking a shot at Clay with the car comment... I think the car was used at some point in the night...even if they were tripping acid before deciding to mess with the dead...at the very least, recla was in the car at some point during the commission of the crime

we agree on things here. Cover up? I dont know...but yet lets discuss Joe. Asher himself couldnt bother to admit to Joe taking a test or not? So he says Clay and Recla did.....and passed? but cant be bothered to mention JOE?

I agree--if a cover-up exists, its to protect pensions/reputations. I also agree the gag orders are manipulated by law enforcement to control things..............however the reason i harp on Clay is because he rides with Joe to IL. He is friends with Joe.. Joe is in town (but not with Clay) and has no alibi for that night.,.... when it comes to the gag orders.. theres one man surrounding those circumstances, Steve Garrison.. And Mike Clay has a direct connection to Garrison and his Goose friends via his ex girlfriend and Recla had a direct connection from dating Jaime and her mother dating Garrison...steve said someone "bragged about killing the women at a party"...so who did steve hang out with? Oh yeah RECLA AND CLAY. And Gooses. And strippers (Clay's sister worked at one of them)....this small town all knew each other.....so there's a good chance Clay indirectly knows someone involved in this disappearance................and he either is aware and scared for his life or he's not aware and so that's why his words have meaning...even the small stuff like suzie's car and dusty's alibi

How about exploring a scenario where Asher is being untruthful about the car ?

That could be an uncomfortable place for a lot of people.

But having that ability and the willingness to do so might show people that flexibility is possible.

You can't just look at the situation in a comfortable way, you have to be able to challenge your belief systems, especially a static victim, villain hero mentality.

 

[Bartt Streeter]

Yes it does... at least the points I was bringing up. There’s no proof she didn’t know about the vandalism until after it happened.... I wasn’t even talking about that..

I was saying that Suzie was cooperative with the cops. And Asher states the car was used in the commission of the crime (there’s other documents that aren’t tv shows public that also prove this point...that’s why i asked Bartt if he was so positive...

You didn't ask me if I was positive, you asked me if I was standing by my statement. What I believe to be true is a belief.

 

[Bartt Streeter]

Yes it does... at least the points I was bringing up. There’s no proof she didn’t know about the vandalism until after it happened.... I wasn’t even talking about that..

I was saying that Suzie was cooperative with the cops. And Asher states the car was used in the commission of the crime (there’s other documents that aren’t tv shows public that also prove this point...that’s why i asked Bartt if he was so positive...

You can't just make statements like a point is proven, unless you back it up with (let's say, maybe) some proof. <modsnip: rude and personalizing>

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

You didn't ask me if I was positive, you asked me if I was standing by my statement. What I believe to be true is a belief.

Do you believe Clay was a friend of Suzie? Like he claims?...

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

How about exploring a scenario where Asher is being untruthful about the car ?

That could be an uncomfortable place for a lot of people.

But having that ability and the willingness to do so might show people that flexibility is possible.

You can't just look at the situation in a comfortable way, you have to be able to challenge your belief systems, especially a static victim, villain hero mentality.

if you want me to explore nefarious cops and cops with ulterior motives,, fine but I’m interested in truth...I have ways to prove this but if the very elementary details of the crime are going to be questioned in an existential/philosophical way to gaslight the forum then im not interested... the car was used. Asher may have said some dumb crap but not all of what he said was a lie

 

[Talullah]

Yes I know Cox list Locator for SW Bell as an occupation .
I know Stu also thinks The dealership connection was a coincidence .

But , How much of a coincidence if he literally worked in front of the house / driveway ?

It is a lot of coincidences. A car lot does not a home make but just because Mr. McCall never saw Cox on the job doesn’t mean Cox never saw him, or his daughters when they brought him lunch. I doubt Cox was above “studying” pretty girls from afar.